Skip to comments.What Causes Riots (how to insulate yourself)
Posted on 08/23/2012 8:42:03 AM PDT by Kartographer
What is the tipping point that will really bring this whole thing to a head?
The answer to that question is stunningly simple, and profoundly prophetic. I am sure the children born into royalty are taught this very simple principle in kindergarten. World leaders certainly understand it. And CEOs of large multi- nationals figure it out early on in their careers.
The answer came to me one day when I stumbled across an article published by MITs Technology Review where researchers at the Institute of Complex Systems published their results on the question; what is the cause of riots? The study was headed up by Marco Lagi and his associates. Lagi thought the answer to the question of what was the cause of riots would be, well, complex. It turned out the cause boils down to one thing.
The price of food.
(Excerpt) Read more at survivethecomingcollapse.com ...
Just don’t be cutting into my ethanol to fill your belly!
From the beginning of time, money is THE most effective thing that will insulate you from what is disagreeable and dangerous in society.
That is why Liberals don’t want you to have any!!
YOU are easier for them to control if you exist and endure the same as everyone else.
The article referenced therein: http://www.technologyreview.com/view/425019/the-cause-of-riots-and-the-price-of-food/
We might be able to solve two problems at once. Are liberals edible?
Origin article: http://arxiv.org/pdf/1108.2455v1.pdf
Food yes, but also race baiting and tribalism.
Hyper-inflation would likely curtail the acceptance of food stamps/EBT cards, as retailers would be getting paid pennies on the dollar, due to the delay in reimbursement.
Grocery stores would be pillaged and then they would not be restocked.
In more affluent areas, the grocery stores would be guarded, but flash-mob tactics would start to be seen.
I don’t think the leftists have the stomach for a real fight, where they have to do their own dying.
Food prices, food distribution / availability and food quality are very strong seeds of unrest. To the prepper community, I advise the ability to grow enough food and a wide enough variety for a year (consider yourself, your family), replenish the seed stock, account for crop losses, plus some additional to trade.
This requires different types of seeds, called (heirloom seeds) and requires more land than most people realize. Lots of variables go into this, but in general, it takes about 1 full acre for a family of four assuming water supply and good soil. Hydroponics in a green house can reduce the volume of land significantly and protects the crops from weather and critters.
The problem with hydroponics is that the systems need to be in place before SHTF. This also means the knowledge to grow with hydroponics has to be in place ahead of time. And the systems are costly.
So, granted not the highest priority item on a prepper’s list but it is a good idea to have a plan on how you will grow your own food. Have some heirloom seed packs and the ability to can / dehydrate / store your own food in case the unrest lasts more than a year.
As Croc DunDee would say... They taste like shyt, but you can live off them.
Don’t forget “NBA Championships”.
I guarantee you that some leftist/communist politician/agitator will be standing up and shouting “you don’t got no food cuz whitey got it all!”
There are Riot Makers in this world, people who stand to gain in some political or economic way from the riot. These people are smart, and organized. They work to create dissatisfaction, they work to build the conditions under which certain people will riot, they work to organize those people for the event. The foment the riot, they direct the riot, they protect the riot from official interference, and they try to turn the aftermath of the riot to their benefit. They are rarely the people actively engaged in violence ... that's for the peons.
Many of Bam-Bam's political mentors are riot-makers. Ayers, Dohrn, Alinsky ...
“Soylent green is people !”
The guitar player in the band I just “joined” gets ALL of his food from his property. However, sometimes he’ll buy chicken and canned food at the grocery store when it’s on sale. He bought $300 worth of chicken once because it was cheaper than raising his own. He did the same with some canned food that was cheaper than canning your own.
We just started canning from our garden. We got a poor crop this year but it was our first and we did no soil prep. We’re already getting set up for the winter crop and next spring.
The Soylent Greenies are...
Theoretically, although you should remember the old saying "you are what you eat". The biggest problem is that they are nearly impossible to clean, and their bitterness runs clear to the bone. I can't even get my dogs to eat one. And I've tried.
The bible says: A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it. NIV Proverbs 22:3
Take a look around flash mobs, soaring food prices, tyranny and race baiting by our own government, joblessness, cities going bankrupt a whole litany of warnings be prudent and start preparing.
For those who are just starting or are old hands at prepping you may find my Preparedness Manual helpfull. You can download it at:
NOTE! THIS IS A FREE DOWNLOAD. I DO NOT MAKE ONE CENT OFF MY PREPAREDNESS MANUAL!
You will find articles on many of the questions that you are asking as well as many questions that havent occur to you as of yet. Its written for those just starting or for those who are old hands at prepping.
For those of you who havent started already its time to prepare almost past time maybe. You needed to be stocking up on food guns, ammo, basic household supplies like soap, paper goods, cleaning supplies, good sturdy clothes including extra socks, underwear and extra shoes and boots, screws, nails, plywood, barbed wire, tools, things you buy everyday start buying two and put one up.
As the LDS say When the emergency is upon us the time for preparedness has past.
Breakdowns do occur read some of Selco writings a Bosnian who lived through their civil war or Ferfal who live through Argentinas financial collapse. Such troubles do occur and when they do things get ugly quick. No one is claiming things will turn Mad Max or Book of Eli, but desperate people often commit desperate acts or as one of my favorite quotes goes:
“Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: The Siege of AR-558 (#7.8)” (1998)
Quark: Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. They’re a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon. You don’t believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes.
Lastly this for the doubters and the scoffers.
There is no greater disaster than to underestimate danger.
Underestimation can be fatal.
Food, or the lack thereof, can till the ground and make it fertile for civil breakdown, but there are two underlying, hand-in-glove reasons why riots happen:
ANGER AND HATE.
The LA riots of 1992 were not about food - they were about ANGER AND HATE.
The 1977 New York Blackout riots were not brought about by food, but when the power went out, the rioters vented their ANGER AND HATE.
The 2011 riots all across Britain were not started over food; the rioters were venting their ANGER AND HATE.
Should we see riots in Tampa, or across the land after the Zimmerman Trial, or as a result of the elections, rest assured the reasons will be nothing but ANGER AND HATE.
a garden can provide vital vitamins and minerals to your diet.....it provides wonderfully tasty meals....it diverts your mind from the troubles of the day.....for these reasons alone, a garden is invaluable.
“A better way to look at this is that a shortage of food guarantees a riot. In addition food riots tend to have a lot more staying power. The loot and burn protests in LA and London were over as soon as the cops started cracking heads. Once the authorities took the fun out of it the riots broke up. However a hungry man will continue to riot until he gets food or is killed.”
This is a keen observation. If one can riot and still eat, there will be an end to the riot. If food is not to be had, the rioter won’t stop until he gets food. If you throw no water in there, the rioter will kill for certain to get it because he is in the process of dying right then.
What causes riots?
Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton to name a couple.
He/she had best do it before the shooting starts. Otherwise he/she ain't nothing but a target.
If cooked properly.
A really tough question! Think long and hard before answering.
Better use is as hog and chicken feed. ;-)
They are probably as safe to eat as urine is to drink.
That being said I would never want to put either in my mouth.
But if the choice were forced I'd take urine over liberal any day.
Once you have the canning supplies, you can’t beat canning for savings if you grow your own.
I’ve been doing tomato sauce for years out of the sauce tomatoes I grow. I use Heinz variety which I get through Territorial seed company and they have ALWAYS performed excellently. I always get a good crop and they are supposed to be open pollinated, which means being able to save them, which I am going to try this year and see how they do.
This was not a great year for gardens because of the drought.
We watered through the drought but it still didn’t matter. I probably under-watered.
Our watermelons are about 5” but apparently they are not done.
Tomatoes mostly rotted. I’m big on cherry tomatoes and this is the first year I ever tried large ones. What a dismal failure.
I tried watermelons and they didn’t work either. Not worth the garden space, IMO.
We did an heirloom tomato which all split on the vine. This year some of them came up on their own and I have hardly watered and they’re all doing fine. None are splitting. I’ve never heard of overwatering tomatoes, but who knows? Maybe it’s just the variety.
I grow stuff that’s cost effective. Potatoes, onions, and carrots are too cheap in the stores and take up too much garden space for what you get.
I do beans, peas, scallions, lettuce, tomatoes, peppers, and zucchini. I also have rhubarb, blueberries, currants, and raspberries. They are fairly new so not producing a lot yet.
Potatoes and onions are two of my favorite foods and you are right. They are too cheap at the supermarket to grow yourself. We did anyway and it was absolutely not worth it.
BTW, we get TONS of wild garlic here. One of the fields near Springfield was so dense that when I drove by last spring I honestly thought it was an onion field. Apparently it’s a problem regarding dairy cows. It ruins the flavor of the milk.
Funny you should post that photo. I think of it all the time and a couple of years ago I found the clip on YouTube. It wasn’t nearly as cool as I remembered! But the line, “THere’s a storm coming. Yes, I know.” is still good, and timeless.
Could use it to make garlic-butter.
There’s A Storm Coming
I like that one, but this is what I see as very relevant.
Quark tells his nephew something about humans
The hogs aren’t so choosy.
I also grow my own garlic.
It’s better than the stuff from China with God knows what in it.
“Are liberals edible?”
Tastes like Chicken.
I haven’t had a good harvest of anything the past two summers because of the heat. I water but temperatures over 100 just do the plants in. I’m going to till under most of the garden this evening to start the fall garden but it’s really too late in the season but we were busy with other home repairs to get to it any earlier.
There’s a falacy in having stored shtf seed packets. One, people don’t realize there’s an art to gardening so they can’t just put a seed in the ground and expect it to provide for their family. Those people will be sorely shocked when reality hits. Two, it takes several seasons to learn what grows well in your particular climate and your particular soil and what your family will eat. Some of those mass packages aren’t going to work everywhere and by the time people figure it out, they will have wasted time, energy and the health of their families. Three is storage skills. If they don’t know how to preserve foods and then they’ll ruin foods or compromise the health of someone or worse.
Manage to find some land for a community garden and get them start working so the area will have more food next year and you have the start of something very worth while.
There was a book I read about this a number (never mind how many!) called IIRC "A Gift of Seeds".
The time to learn to garden is not WHEN the SHTF.
It’s well before.
And honestly, I love to garden and have been doing it for years and am grateful that we don’t have to depend on it for survival.
Don't be a Tutsi.
I don’t think starvation causes riots. Or at least they don’t last for long. The population is subdued pretty quickly.
This is why famine has always been a tool of, or exploited by, dictatorships. Mao understood that, Uncle Joe understood it, the British in 1850 understood it.
I completely agree. The time to start living in what you plan for a post-SHTF world is (for many of us) now. I have enough food, and extra, for my large family stored. Every single thing in storage is something we normally cook and eat, and it will all rotate into the weekly menu before expiration. We are not going to transition in an emergency from a typical American eating style to stored wheat berries and dried beans that we have never before cooked or eaten!
The gardening we plan for post-SHTF is already being done, and it is tasty and grows well here - after a few failures and the ongoing yet consistently unsuccessful attempts to get a decent watermelon. I don't think we would actually need all our stored food to get by; we'd simply eat it or eventually trade it out of concern that it would expire for real and not just go out of date.
The price of food.
HUH???? And here, after all these years I thought the 1968 Detroit riot started with the raiding of a blind pig..........
Well spank me and call me stupid and tell my now deceased dad that he didn't need to buy that M-1 carbine after all........
The way a flash mob works is that the mob members individually converge to points near the target, and then all arrive at the target at the same time. After people get sufficiently tired of it, anybody arriving in a middle-class neighborhood who looks "inner city" will just be beaten or killed on sight.
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