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U.S. Marine a victim of "Pre-Crime Detention" as FBI monitors America's Facebook posts
Coach is Right ^ | 8/25/2012 | Doug Book

Posted on 08/25/2012 10:04:29 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax

Interrogated by FBI and Secret Service agents, thrown to the ground, handcuffed and driven off by local police who maintain he was never really “under arrest,” Marine Sergeant Brandon Raub was finally freed from a psychiatric hospital on Thursday after Circuit Court Judge Allan Sharrett dismissed a petition of involuntary commitment on the grounds that it was “…so devoid of any factual allegations that it could not be reasonably expected to give rise to a case or controversy.” (1)

In fact that petition, filed by the Chesterfield Police for the purpose of holding Raub in the John Randolph mental facility, was BLANK! (2)

On Thursday the 17th, Raub’s Chesterfield County, Virginia home was invaded by minions of federal law enforcement and his hometown police department as a result of entries on the Marine’s Facebook page which the government deemed...

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: barackobama; brandonraub; dhs; janetnapolitano

1 posted on 08/25/2012 10:04:41 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: Oldpuppymax

It ain’t the same by any stretch —but the State of Colorado
came in my house pretending to “help” my daughter keep her girls. when my wife and I violated their “safety plan” by allowing my daughter take her girls to the park for an hour or so one day last April— they decided to “take” the girls. They later filed charges against me saying because I said I would regret not pushing my wife aside-grabbing my guns -and protecting my family when they came with the local police to “take” my grandchildren” they told the Court this house was an unsafe environment because I said I have guns. With the unconstitutional environment that pervades America in our public trust I doubt I will ever get my grandchildren allowed back. But I will not be silent— because I am an American.


2 posted on 08/25/2012 10:37:01 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: Oldpuppymax
I tried to send the link for this article to a few people on Twitter. Found at least one that was being blocked. Would not send the message, until I used another URL shortner. After confusing the filter with that it went through.

Not the first time I have had messages suppressed.

3 posted on 08/25/2012 10:38:52 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: StonyBurk

Addendum— I am well aware there are those who think I ought not have Any guns because I am bi-polar—and have a seizure disorder. But we still have that Second Amendment and I will cling to my guns and to my Christian religion despite what the new world order believes.The second Amendment -until it is expunged— is the only law between America and entrenched tyranny. It is the Amendment that allows us defend all other.


4 posted on 08/25/2012 10:40:39 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Looking at facebook? I’m sure they look here too. (Waving at FBI Agents)


5 posted on 08/25/2012 10:44:09 AM PDT by Starstruck (Only the wealthy and the poor can afford socialism)
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To: Texas Fossil

I can’t get to the article either.


6 posted on 08/25/2012 10:44:19 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: Oldpuppymax

And yet because the guy is a ‘Truther’ there are several here on FR who are just fine with it. I’ve see post as bold or even bolder stuff right here on FR. Lest Freeper’s forget:

Protestant minister, Martin Niemoller , who found himself interned in a Nazi Work camp...
“ When the Nazis came for the communists, I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats, I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists, I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews, I remained silent;
I wasn’t a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.”

Martin Niemöller


7 posted on 08/25/2012 10:56:52 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: WKUHilltopper

I checked the site, it was slow to load. Must be lots of people trying to view it, or a Denial of Service attack.

You might try it through this link and be patient about load time.

http://t.co/xl3CWaG9


8 posted on 08/25/2012 10:57:55 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Oldpuppymax
The justice who incarcerated Raub was Justice Walter Douglass Stokes.

Wonder what his background is? Wonder what the FBI told him? Wonder who chose the Psyc professional to call?

This really stinks. (not defending the x-marine who says he is a truther)

9 posted on 08/25/2012 11:10:46 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Oldpuppymax
...It looks like things have may have already started. The 'wackos', those who speak of violence, the loners, anyone who can be Alinsky'd will be first.

When the 'facilities' are full, maybe they'll start with the 'temporary' and 'overflow' facilities (camps).

Facebook, etc. is not your friend, it is the rope they'll hang you with.

10 posted on 08/25/2012 11:11:06 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Oldpuppymax
"...handcuffed and driven off by local police who maintain he was never really “under arrest,” "

Double-secret probation?

11 posted on 08/25/2012 11:13:14 AM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: StonyBurk

This concept of government being the solution to every problem is very common among concervatives here.

In a An article the other day about a turtle being tied to a balloon a poster said the kid who did this needed to be found by government because he MIGHT injure another animal and that MIGHT lead to him killing humans.

It is a sad day when conservatives are the same as liberals.

Keep fighting..........................


12 posted on 08/25/2012 11:16:44 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( (Lord, save me from some conservatives, they don't understand history any better than liberals.))
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To: Texas Fossil

Thanks.


13 posted on 08/25/2012 11:24:33 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: Oldpuppymax

I’ve yet to see an explanation for how the authorities found these posts. This article at least comes the closest. Looks like Facebook in cahoots with the Feds.


14 posted on 08/25/2012 11:27:23 AM PDT by Chipper (You can't kill an Obamazombie by destroying the brain...they didn't have one to begin with.)
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To: Oldpuppymax
I hope he sues the living dog shiite out of them. And shame on the Virginia AG and the sheriff for allowing the feds to snatch a Virginian without due process.

Try that crap with me, and you'll be met by Mr. 870P with a$$hole repellent.

15 posted on 08/25/2012 11:41:48 AM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: Chipper

“I’ve yet to see an explanation for how the authorities found these posts. This article at least comes the closest. Looks like Facebook in cahoots with the Feds.”

Chipper,

You’re right. I read every piece I could find on the “arrest,” and incarceration of Raub and no one—including the WaPo—had the answer for who exactly started the ball rolling or how. The FBI denied it was looking through Facebook posts, but that was PROVEN to be a lie by the FOIA suit mentioned.
Strange, isn’t it, that our federal protectors could arrest Raub, yet have no inkling of possible, future wrongdoing on the part of Major Hassan!!


16 posted on 08/25/2012 12:13:48 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: Oldpuppymax

They need to get this guy to the Rep. convention for a speech. It should be splashed on every site possible. MSM carrying the water again by not revealing full details. Just a thought; Doesn’t Geo. Soros own a rather large stake in Facebook?


17 posted on 08/25/2012 12:29:15 PM PDT by DrDude (Obama does nothing for me except PISS ME OFF!)
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To: Starstruck
Looking at facebook? I’m sure they look here too

They may look everywhere. However FB represents a single large concentration of microbloggers. TLAs can get a direct connection into Facebook's computers to filter all new comments.

To do the same with FR, DU and the like they would need to scrape millions of pages on thousands of blogs and deal with a whole bunch of related difficulties. Additionally, 3rd party blogs like FR give you no easy way to associate the login name with a real life identity. Facebook most likely includes the IP address with each comment and provides the account data if the TLA wants to look deeper.

The same effect occurs in crime. Majority of crimes are committed by low IQ people within a mile from where they live. (Trayvon Martin is a good example.) Detectives know that and use it to solve those crimes. A few crimes do not fall into that pattern; for example, a hired killer can assassinate a businessman. Such crimes are hard to solve even if you have a list (a long one!) of all the enemies of that businessman. The hitman is experienced; he did everything right; he is not known to the police; he cannot be associated with the victim; and so on. The police sends resources (detectives) to where they can be most useful. In case of FB vs. FR that would be Facebook.

18 posted on 08/25/2012 1:06:49 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: Kartographer

“And yet because the guy is a ‘Truther’ there are several here on FR who are just fine with it.”

IMHO that’s probably the very reason they chose to to target him. His overall post makes him look like a bit of a crackpot, somebody who could easily be selected for this evil, illicit treatment and not have many of us come to his defense. The individuals who concocted this probably thought that, having gotten away with this atrocity on a somewhat marginal character, they could extend their constitutional violations to more mainstream adversaries of the regime. That’s why we have to fight any atrocity like this, because thy are going to use it as a springboard to go after all of us.


19 posted on 08/25/2012 1:17:20 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: Smokin' Joe

“Facebook, etc. is not your friend, it is the rope they’ll hang you with.”

Facebook is a disgusting open invitation to undress in public at the worst possible time in front of one’s worst enemies. I only have an account because it’s required to view other Facebook pages. No way I’d ever post anything about myself there, not even a picture, even if the gubmint wasn’t watching it.


20 posted on 08/25/2012 1:23:02 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: Greysard

Okaaay. (Waving at Greysard:>))


21 posted on 08/25/2012 1:23:45 PM PDT by Starstruck (Only the wealthy and the poor can afford socialism)
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To: DrDude

Yes he does own a few hundred thousand shares I believe.


22 posted on 08/25/2012 5:08:55 PM PDT by Chipper (You can't kill an Obamazombie by destroying the brain...they didn't have one to begin with.)
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