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2016: Obama's America Movie Review - The Focus on One Hyphenated Word
Maggie's Notebook ^ | 8-24-12 | Maggie@MaggiesNotebook

Posted on 08/25/2012 5:48:54 PM PDT by maggiesnotebook

I slipped off to the third showing of 2016 on Friday in Tulsa at 2:15 pm (Friday). The theater is a large multi-plex that includes an IMAX. I'm picky about my theater seats so usually get there early, but today had a previous appointment, so arrived with about 7 minutes to spare. The parking lot was jammed, and the first clue was, every handicapped parking place was taken (I didn't need one:-) I found a good single seat high up in the middle of a row. The two seats to my right were empty but taken. The two to my left were the only empty seats on my row. They quickly filled. The entire theater was full, and while it was not the largest theater, it wasn't small either. When I left, a very long line had formed in the lobby awaiting the next showing at 4:30 pm. No, they weren't there to see the new Bourne movie. They were there to see 2016: Obama's America. I confirmed it with the guy at the ticket stand. See two trailers below.

D'Souza compared how he and Obama were born the same year, married the same year, and if each of them held up their hands for the camera to capture, no one would see a difference. Dinesh D'Souza came to the US to attend Dartmouth. His father advised him not to go - "they're all White there," he said. Nevertheless, when he arrived at the University he found the International Student Union and enjoyed the foods from around the world, which he had never seen, and had he not come to the US, he would have probably lived his whole life within one mile of his home in India. Anyway, there's a scene where the inevitable pony-tailed guy comes up and says something like "man, it must be so liberating to be Indian." You'll hear Dinesh's answer when you see the film.

His interview with George Obama, who is the brother with another mother, was 6 months old when Barack Obama, Sr. died. While we've all seen George standing at the gate of his hut, he is an impressive figure, tall and lean and speaks a cultured English. He doesn't say a negative word about his brother, carefully sidesteps the opportunity with a few words that indicate he might not be comfortable with an EBT card. He makes one comment that is very telling - the total difference between him and his half-brother who is the President of the United States. See if you can spot it, and come back and tell me what you think.

You'll learn a lot about Barack Obama, Sr., and hear from a man who was a very close friend of his. The passion and "hate" is still there, and he fairly spits it out. Another telling moment. If you've seen the writings of Obama's father, they are also featured in the documentary.

Visually, the film gives us a close-up look at people who are truly, truly poor in a way that no American can comprehend - even the poorest among us. Watch for the oil drilling and the significance of it.

I don't want to be a spoiler for the bottom line of the documentary and there is a bottom line. There are no cheap shots - well, only a real moment when Obama is trying to explain to his audience a bit of math, and can't get it done - but, it's a real. There are no birther discussions. There are no speculations about Obama's 'real' father, his Social Security card or Selective Service Registration number.

Depending on your attention to politics today, or lack of them, it doesn't matter what you know or don't know about Obama. It's not a boring rehash, it's a well-designed documentary with smart commentary. You'll see the bottom line reduced to one hyphenated word that might help you explain a few revelations to your Progressive friends (if you have any), and we all have our Liberal Uncle Louie around. Get to them before they get to the ballot box. View the trailers here.

Related and Background:

The Anarchy Alley that Birthed Barack Obama

In case you missed it: Another Cone of Silence


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2016; 2016movie; barackobama; colonialism; dineshdsouza; documentaries

1 posted on 08/25/2012 5:49:06 PM PDT by maggiesnotebook
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To: maggiesnotebook
A good movie but it was very sad how Barack was raised. His Mother and Father was nuts and then his Grandparents had him befriend an older guy who turned out to be some radical. Then his Mother forced him to go to Indonesia. He only met his father one time. They had his step brother from his father and asked him why Barack is not supporting him....like Obama has to support every step brother that his father sirred. They should have concentrated on his policies and what 2016 was going to look like if he is reelected. That would have been a better movie. This was a “poor Barack” type of movie.
2 posted on 08/25/2012 5:56:30 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Attention Republican National Convention voters....Santorum/Bachmann 2012! Dump liberal Romney NOW!)
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To: maggiesnotebook

Got me wanting to see it, now!


3 posted on 08/25/2012 5:58:23 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: napscoordinator

Wow, that’s what you got from it?


4 posted on 08/25/2012 6:01:37 PM PDT by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy

Wow, that’s what you got from it?

There was nothing new. What did you get that you didn’t know already?


5 posted on 08/25/2012 6:06:46 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Attention Republican National Convention voters....Santorum/Bachmann 2012! Dump liberal Romney NOW!)
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To: napscoordinator

Welli certainly didn’t see it as sympathetic to “poor Barack”. I hadn’t read the book, knew the general thesis, but thought it was well done. I went more to see the audience and their reaction, since I saw it in dc suburbs, northern VA.


6 posted on 08/25/2012 6:24:35 PM PDT by xsmommy
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To: maggiesnotebook
This movie is playing at less than one third the number of venues as today's top three pictures but is grossing enough dollars to come in 4th in the U.S. market. The theaters where it plays are apparently packed.

http://boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/

7 posted on 08/25/2012 6:25:12 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: napscoordinator

Moreover, I don’t think you and I were the intended audience for this film. DO you think the rank and file populace knew ANY of that?


8 posted on 08/25/2012 6:26:20 PM PDT by xsmommy
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To: bigbob

“”Got me wanting to see it, now!””

I hate to admit it but I thought the same thing as opposed to my posting of yesterday that I already knew more than I wanted to know about the creep!!! May have to rethink this and my family calls me stubborn!!!


9 posted on 08/25/2012 6:29:10 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: napscoordinator
"like Obama has to support every step brother that his father sirred."

LOL

The price of one of moochelle's dresses or one pair of shoes could have supported them.

10 posted on 08/25/2012 6:31:35 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: xsmommy

I don’t think you and I were the intended audience for this film.

That is most likely true. Although I think people like you and I are the ones seeing the film. I saw it in Annapolis Maryland at the Harbor Center Movies. We are almost neighbors...lol.


11 posted on 08/25/2012 6:35:17 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Attention Republican National Convention voters....Santorum/Bachmann 2012! Dump liberal Romney NOW!)
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To: xsmommy

“”You’ll learn a lot about Barack Obama, Sr., and hear from a man who was a very close friend of his. The passion and “hate” is still there, and he fairly spits it out.””

This struck me as interesting as I hadn’t seen any clips from the documentary about this. I think now that there would be other things I didn’t know.. It’s kind of like an obsession - ala Bill Clinton. I couldn’t stand the man but I had to buy every book written about him and his wife. We moved from CA in 2006 and I didn’t take one Clinton book with me. I learned my lesson and don’t have one obozo book in my house!!!


12 posted on 08/25/2012 6:36:11 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: Thank You Rush

I saw it yesterday. All showings were sold out.

It was an interesting take on the man. the documentary did not bring in moral issues nor did it bring up the ACORN or community organizing days. Nor did it mention the political bent of the grandparents that I have read about.

But the goal, no matter the reason or psychology behind the attitude is to take down America and we are on the way.


13 posted on 08/25/2012 6:45:17 PM PDT by magdalen (abortion)
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To: Thank You Rush

I liked The Amateur by Edward Klein. Gossipy quick read and verified everything we suspected about the ego, the narcissism, and the spending. Knowing the stuff and seeing it played out on the screen is very different,


14 posted on 08/25/2012 6:47:15 PM PDT by xsmommy
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To: maggiesnotebook; napscoordinator
He makes one comment that is very telling - the total difference between him and his half-brother who is the President of the United States. See if you can spot it, and come back and tell me what you think.

I won't give it away, but the whole tone of the George Obama interview was the most revealing part of the movie for me. At the very least it should put to rest speculations about Obama's parentage. Barack and George are cut from the same cloth. Tall, lanky, intelligent, mostly soft-spoken. But despite his personal poverty and the corrupted squalor that is Kenya, George does not blame the rich or the whites or the West for his problems, quite the opposite. Very, very refreshing. And you can clearly see why BHO doesn't want to help his brother. In that category, only true believers need apply.

The movie was exceptional. Basically a video version of Desouza's books, but very, very well produced. The theater was packed and the comments I heard walking out among the mostly 50+ crowd was that it was a very scary movie. My 19 year old son, said, "Dad, I really don't like scary movies."

And contrary to the Napster, this was not a "poor Barrack" kind of movie. By making the comparison in origins between Obama and Desouza, and the ultimate contrast between their mindsets today, the viewer is allowed to draw his or her own conclusions about the roots of Obama's rage. Perhaps they could have spent more time in the technical, ideological policy weeds, making it appeal only to wonks. But in the end, this approach made it a real story about real people with an emotional connection that will resonate with people long after they walk out of the theater.

Regrettably, it may have only been preaching to the choir. As the people who need to see it probably won't.

15 posted on 08/25/2012 6:55:22 PM PDT by newheart (At what point does policy become treason?)
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To: napscoordinator

Bet you have a weird sense of humor too...


16 posted on 08/25/2012 7:21:15 PM PDT by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: newheart; maggiesnotebook; napscoordinator
He makes one comment that is very telling - the total difference between him and his half-brother who is the President of the United States. See if you can spot it, and come back and tell me what you think.

I won't give it away, but the whole tone of the George Obama interview was the most revealing part of the movie for me. At the very least it should put to rest speculations about Obama's parentage. Barack and George are cut from the same cloth. Tall, lanky, intelligent, mostly soft-spoken. But despite his personal poverty and the corrupted squalor that is Kenya, George does not blame the rich or the whites or the West for his problems, quite the opposite. Very, very refreshing. And you can clearly see why BHO doesn't want to help his brother. In that category, only true believers need apply.

I saw the movie at a 1:30 p.m. showing this afternoon in a San Francisco suburb.

Theater was 3/8 full. Audience consisted of mostly viewers age 50+ with a few younger people, plus whole families.

Applause at the end.

I was impressed with the poise George Obama showed in his brief interview. Was the comment you mentioned related to Genesis 4:9, and his response to BO's interpretation of it?

And to tag onto your other comment, anyone who had any doubts about BO's foreignness will have THOSE doubts put to rest after having seen this movie. The man is not American at all.

17 posted on 08/25/2012 7:29:30 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: maggiesnotebook

What’s the hyphenated word?


18 posted on 08/25/2012 7:31:55 PM PDT by zeebee
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To: thecodont

thecodont, no it wasn’t the “my brother’s keeper” comment. I guess at this point in the conversation I can say it. It’s no big deal, but my one hypenated word that I knew, but ignored, and went the communism, marxism, socialism route (which also fits) is anti-colonialism. George said he thought Kenya would be a far more developed country had Whites stayed there longer.

He’s a smart guy.


19 posted on 08/25/2012 7:56:46 PM PDT by maggiesnotebook
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To: napscoordinator

napscoordinator, I knew everything that was in it, and I knew I would because I’ve been writing and reading about him for 5 years now. But, I do think the anti-colonist angle is spot on. I wrote about that when he first took office and booted out Churchill’s bust, then I forgot that angle and moved on to other things. Barack Sr. hated White, as his friend said in the movie, the belief is deep and hot that other nations, particularly the US and UK stole their wealth and then sold it back to them at astronomical prices.

I was glad to see Dinesh talking about the paper his father had published, because it explains a lot about the son. I’ve been linking to that paper for years.


20 posted on 08/25/2012 8:00:54 PM PDT by maggiesnotebook
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To: xsmommy

xsmommy, I was surrounded with most older viewers. We were packed in like sardines. I could tell the woman sitting next to me didn’t know any of it, but I could also tell she was not a supporter. Now she can go back and explain a few things to family and friends.


21 posted on 08/25/2012 8:03:40 PM PDT by maggiesnotebook
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To: maggiesnotebook
George said he thought Kenya would be a far more developed country had Whites stayed there longer.

A very pointed and accurate observation, but also one not considered to be "politically correct."

He’s a smart guy.

He appears to be smarter than his brother.

22 posted on 08/25/2012 8:04:52 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: maggiesnotebook

Ann Dunham as quoted in the Anarchy Alley link says that she had met Obama, sr., in Hawaii and married him. A following portion caused me to doubt whether they actually did marry, inasmuch as he already had a wife in Kenya.

Even more significant, she did not then go on to state that they had a son born in Hawaii; only that she later shipped the boy from Kenya to Hawaii to the custody of her parents and, of course, Frank Davis.


23 posted on 08/25/2012 8:07:09 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: magdalen

magdalen, he also didn’t mention that the Dunhams moved from Ponca City, OK to Washington State to send their daughter to a school with two teachers who focused on communism. I wish that had been in there.


24 posted on 08/25/2012 8:07:43 PM PDT by maggiesnotebook
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To: zeebee

zeebee, anti-colonialism or anti-colonialists. The significance is huge is this case.


25 posted on 08/25/2012 8:09:44 PM PDT by maggiesnotebook
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To: Elsiejay

Elsijay, lots of speculation. D’Souza stayed away from anything he couldn’t full document. We still don’t come close to knowing Obama’s real background.


26 posted on 08/25/2012 8:11:37 PM PDT by maggiesnotebook
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To: zeebee

Rose-Bud.


27 posted on 08/25/2012 8:14:27 PM PDT by Manhattanite
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To: thecodont

thecodont, yes the connection to the wider world is clear. The other significance of anti-colonialism is where he has allowed drilling, the countris he has given or loaned money to for drilling and the idea that it’s payback for what the US and the UK did in other countries.

I think D’Souza presented a very valid case. There’s also the part about Lolo going to work for big oil, what she said to him and what happened then. Anti-colonist!


28 posted on 08/25/2012 8:15:26 PM PDT by maggiesnotebook
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To: maggiesnotebook
I saw the movie this evening. My main criticism is that D’souza accepts at face value Obama’s background as set forth in the fictionalized biographical account, Dreams From My Father. How can anyone accept that book as the real Obama story given that Jack Cashill has established it was choreographed and written by Bill Ayers and we know Obama is a pathological lier.
29 posted on 08/25/2012 8:19:32 PM PDT by iontheball
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To: maggiesnotebook

His “anti-colonialism” is emotional and reactionary. He isn’t thinking about technology and cultural exchanges that can lift up the economies and standard of living of all countries. For him it’s “payback time” for the brown- and black-skinned people against their “white oppressors” — never mind that those “oppressors” introduced paved roads, utilities, clean drinking water, a legal system, literacy, industry, better agricultural methods, more food for everyone, etc.


30 posted on 08/25/2012 8:19:47 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: maggiesnotebook

This thread title needs a “spoiler Alert” tag for lurkers.


31 posted on 08/25/2012 8:20:11 PM PDT by MaxMax
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To: thecodont

It showed more than that. It showed an anti-Isreal/pro-muslim leaning that explains the push to weaken Israels biggest supporter (US). With America (as we know it) gone, Israel stands alone, and surrounded by radicals that want every last Jew crucified. I have seen this Biblical perspective explained for years, but now the secular world is recognizing it too. Prep for SHTF-time, like nothing ever seen before or since...


32 posted on 08/25/2012 8:41:03 PM PDT by Dubh_Ghlase (Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls, It tolls for thee.)
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To: napscoordinator

Not his step brother. His half brother. A step brother is not biologically/genetically related to you - he’s the son of your stepmother or stepfather that they already had when they married your parent. A half brother has the same father or mother that you do.


33 posted on 08/25/2012 9:10:06 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: kabumpo

I saw the movie tonight. I knew all of it and thought a lot more should have been included, but it was still great.

My Dad walked out horrified.


34 posted on 08/25/2012 9:13:19 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: maggiesnotebook; thecodont; iontheball; GlockThe Vote

Thank you for your first-hand reports. Do you think that liberals/progressives/commies — or undecided voters, young voters, or Blue Dog Dems, for that matter — will pay to see this movie? Would they regard it as a conservative might regard a Michael Moore film?

My suspicion is that far too few people who need to see the film will do so. I am thinking I might need to blanket suspected Obama sympathizers in my circle with the 2016 DVD when it becomes available (reportedly before the November election)....


35 posted on 08/25/2012 10:15:54 PM PDT by Hetuck
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To: Hetuck; maggiesnotebook; iontheball; GlockThe Vote
Thank you for your first-hand reports. Do you think that liberals/progressives/commies — or undecided voters, young voters, or Blue Dog Dems, for that matter — will pay to see this movie? Would they regard it as a conservative might regard a Michael Moore film?

Interesting question. I'd have to see the movie again in a more liberal venue (i.e. a college town) and take notes on the viewership and reactions. This afternoon's showing was in a suburb and was a somewhat more culturally conservative neighborhood.

36 posted on 08/25/2012 10:33:15 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: dps.inspect

Bottom line is I hope he is voted out....this movie can only help that process IF more Independents go to the film and not just us who wasn’t going to vote for the guy anyway. My post was pretty snarky but agains just us here.


37 posted on 08/26/2012 4:24:50 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Attention Republican National Convention voters....Santorum/Bachmann 2012! Dump liberal Romney NOW!)
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To: thecodont

It’s Roots of Obamas Rage on film watered down a bit basically.

I was surprised how neutral it was. It was not a hit piece whatsoever.


38 posted on 08/26/2012 4:38:16 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: napscoordinator

Obama has been called a Marxist,a Socialist,and a Communist among other Things,but one thing you cant call him is an American,That is what I took from the Movie.
Also an Issue that I have read about but have not heard in the Campaign at all,Our Nuclear Arsenal is Being Depleted,From 1500 missles to 300 and if Obama is reelected he has plans for another 80% reduction while our enemies are Building them as fast as they can. If that does not cause you concern think your Social security check will arrive with Missles Flying into your mailbox?


39 posted on 08/26/2012 5:24:41 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: ballplayer

The missile reduction was what stood out most to my 18 yo daughter also. Extremely sobering.


40 posted on 08/26/2012 8:52:05 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: ballplayer; napscoordinator
Obama has been called a Marxist,a Socialist,and a Communist among other Things,but one thing you cant call him is an American,That is what I took from the Movie.

That's what I took away from the movie, too. I think D'Souza was masterful, subtle and clever by bracketing the movie with the introduction of himself and BO as having many characteristics in common. Though he repeats the narrative from Dreams From My Father ("born in Hawai'i") in a deadpan sort of way, what resonated with me, after having seen the film, was the underlying statement (more shown than told): "We are both immigrants. We have a common background. But here are our vastly differing views on America and its future."

Yes, they are both immigrants. D'Souza to BO: "fellow immigrant..." -- yes, he's subtle.

41 posted on 08/26/2012 9:05:25 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: GlockThe Vote
I was surprised how neutral it was. It was not a hit piece whatsoever.

It was pretty dry and factual, which I think is exactly what's needed to reach out to undecided viewers.

42 posted on 08/26/2012 9:07:33 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: maggiesnotebook

I wonder why it is that when I see a notification that I have mail it mostly consists of my own posted comments, not responses thereto.


43 posted on 08/26/2012 2:25:33 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: maggiesnotebook

Underneath the phony exterior
the fake smile
Lies the anti-colonialist; anti-exceptionalism; anti-American
an angry black man
Masquerading as a healer
he rather perversely divides while
perpetrating a massive fraud on America.

Time to ‘Change It Back’ America. Let’s Roll!


44 posted on 08/27/2012 2:16:01 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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