Skip to comments.New poll: Catholics to vote 3 to 1 against Obama; explains why Cardinal Dolan not welcome at DNC
Posted on 08/27/2012 7:11:52 AM PDT by jmaroneps37
In the Leftist controlled media stories are shouted if they are helpful to Democrats, whispered if they are bad news for Democrats...
".. why a new poll a new poll commissioned by the American Life League (ALL) is so important. The poll conducted between August 15 and 19 spoke to 900 self-identified Catholic registered voters.
There are few English language superlatives that can accurately portray the findings of this survey.
Earth shaking Sea Change Devastating read them and take your pick.
The story was whispered on a recent NPR segment and heres why.
A stunning 27% of Catholics told the interviewers they support Barack Obama. This is a 27 point fall from 2008.
Seventy four percent (74%) of Catholic men over 50 refuse to support Obama.
Moreover an almost identical 25% of Catholic men under 50 support Obama and 31% of Catholic women under 50 support him.
Catholic women over fifty support Obama at just a 23% rate.
Clearly Barack Obamas plan to start a fight with Catholics is working but how can any Democrat be happy about the results?
The ALL survey found that 73% of its Catholic registered voter respondents see the mandate Obama has placed on Catholic institutions (including Catholic hospitals and indeed the office of Cardinal Dolan) to commit abortions and distribute contraceptive devices as a violation of their religious freedoms.
This explains why Cardinal Dolan the leader of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops was told he is not welcome to attend the Democrats convention in Charlotte North Carolina next month.
This survey ..claims a margin of error of +/- 3 points. Nevertheless, with numbers like this a 10 point MoE wouldnt help Barack Obama and his Party.
Catholics who were 27%...
(Excerpt) Read more at coachisright.com ...
It better be even less than that voting for him. I can’t see why on God’s green earth that any Catholic could vote for a president who has spit directly in the face of the Church more than any other in history.
Because like those from other sectors of society, government handouts appeal to them as well.
Excellent news. I am glad to see the majority of Catholics rejecting this evil man.
And their are many of them in PA, OH, MI, WI, & MN ergo why they are in "play"... It is the same demographic that gave Schumer and Emanuel the House and Senate in 06' IMHO and I wish I still had the map I found on-line to prove it, it has been gone for eons..... Turn about is fair play Schadenfreude Baby..
“This explains why Cardinal Dolan the leader of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops was told he is not welcome to attend the Democrats convention in Charlotte North Carolina next month.”
I slightly disagree. If the democrats cared about Catholics, they would have Dolan at the DNC as sort of a peace offering. They don’t give a damn about Catholics & have declared all out war against Church teaching & Catholic values. THAT is why Dolan isn’t invited - the DNC is anti-Christ.
Obama’s burnt toast.
Sorry to be the wet blanket here, but I have one big question. Was there any difference in the definition of Catholic between the 2008 poll and the current one? Unlike most denominations, people tend to stay “Catholic” even if they haven’t gone to church for years. I could easily see 50% of the total number supporting Obama but only 25% of the ones who go to mass weekly doing so. Unless the same criteria were used this poll might not be showing any real shift.
I smell a blowout in the making.
Agreed. If the Catholic vote mattered to them, and this was accurate, the polls wouldn’t be this close (or worse, Romney behind - see Rasmussen). The Dems clearly don’t care about the anti-HHS mandate/anti-abortion vote and it doesn’t seem to have hurt them in general polling. God help this Country.
so how come the north east, PA, DE, NJ, IL etc will go fro the socialists.
Catholics and Jews vote left because they do nto nkow te turht, because their parents did, because the union says to do so and because they;re ignorant and not really Catholic or Jewish until it suits them.
THAT is some really good news!
“And their are many of them in PA, OH, MI, WI, & MN ergo why they are in “play”...
Obama lost the 2008 Catholic vote in Pa, Ohio, and Mn. The Catholic vote varied between 70% for Obama in NM to 70% against Obama in La. Of course this is all exit polling so who the heck knows anyhow.
I’m not sure Obama won the Catholic vote in any red state, I would love to know that (not saying he didn’t win either, I just don’t know). The whole 54% thing is a national number to my understanding, which isn’t as useful because we vote by state and the electoral college. In huge states like NY and Cali Obama won the Catholic vote handily, both by 59%. I don’t know what it was in Texas, which is another big one and a red state. But in a few fairly blue states like NJ (55%) McLame won. It seems like region has something to do with it as well as maybe the bishop.
I can’t see that Obama has helped his cause much with Catholics over the 2008 numbers, but who knows.
Catholics think they're "poor people."
It should be 100% of them vote against.
While there are a lot of Catholics in the rust belt, and Obama thumbing his nose at them doesn’t help him, the main reason the Rust Belt is in play is simple, Obama has basically spit in the faces of the Blue Dog democrats for 4 years, and they are without question the largest group of democrats in the rust belt.
They are not leftist ideologues, they aren’t socialists, they aren’t supporters of having others pay for abortions etc. They are rather conservative folks who vote democrat because of generations ties of democrats to Unions. Obamas completely removal of the mask of what the democrats stand for economically and socially is why the Rust Belt is in play.
Powerful book--covers the well-known and less well-known ways Obama has tried to destroy religious freedom and advance a militant form of secularism, not only at the expense of the Catholic Church but at the expense of all believers (other than Muslims).
Deserves a wide readership.
The priest in my church said the following. That the ten commandments are more important than the constitution. He said that even elected officials would agree with that. He also said the President would agree with that, being general and not talking about barry at all.
Well well well I never saw this reaction in all my years. People starting yelling not Obama, dont go there, he is not a Christian. This from quiet reserved older people who attend mass during the week. very telling!!
he is correct.
...blowout of historic proportions.
--St. Augustine, quoted in No Higher Power by Phyllis Schafly and George Neumayr, p. 169.
“No Democrat has won the presidency since 1948 without winning the Catholic vote. Obama is not even close. “
So the Catholic vote went for Obama, Clinton, Carter? Not much consistency, there.
LOL! I guess those of us who predicted this were right despite the many self-proclaiming experts who tried to shout it down. It will be interesting to see what the final numbers are at the poll that counts.
How a Catholic can say they are Catholic and not see that Dems give them abortion, sodomy, anti God, anti Bible, pro illegal alien, anti Israel rhetoric, and then vote for the Dems is beyond me.
Many times I have asked right here, where are the Bishops and cardinals that have come out against Obama and i get a few oped pieces thrown at me. What is being said at church? Very little, IMHO. Where is the outrage at Obama Care forcing the hospitals to pay for abortions? They will point to a lawsuit, but there should be outrage in the pews. All of this is because the liberal priests. bishops and cardinals want the welfare and unemployment to keep rolling in.
How else can we explain Boston, NYC and others supporting Pelosi, Kennedy, Kerry, et al? The movers and shakers in the Church are libs and we have covered our eyes for too long. There needs to be church discipline, but the church sees nothing to discipline. This has to come from higher up.
That poll makes the shunning of the Bishop IN-explicable to me. You would think they would welcome any help they could get and having a Bishop bless the group couldn’t hurt.
As a Catholic, I love what Paul Ryan has to say about the issues - never heard a contradiction from him. Romney on the other hand has to keep up the present persona and get us to believe he has totally abandoned past liberal positions.
Two points: This explains why they didn’t invite the Cardinal because they are trying to attract anti-Christians in general and anti-Catholics in particular. They can’t afford to send a mixed message. The Cardinal gambled and won. He knew very well they would say no. Now they have a bigger problem than they could ever imagine because the Cardinal has obviously been waiting until after Labor Day to start to fight. He has a huge lead already without really trying.
With 52% Pennsylvania has the highest percentage of self-identified Catholics in the country. Look it up.
I thought Rhode Island did?
Sure. It’s more likely that this generation will pay its own debts than Romney will win in a “blowout of historic proportions.”
I can imagine the conversation between Obama and Joe Biden.
Obama: “Hey there, Joey! How many Catholics are in the US?”
Biden: “I donno. A hundred? Kin I have a cookie?”
Obama: “Okay, a hundred. How many Muslims?”
Obama: “No. The other ones.”
Biden: “Oh, a whole bunch I guess. Like a bazillion.”
Obama: “Okay, that settles it. We’ll stick it to the Catholics, because they don’t matter, and invite the Muslims to pray at our convention, so they will vote for us.”
That reminds me of a saying our previous LCMS pastor said during a non church event. "I don't know how any Christian can go to church on Sunday and vote for a democrat on Tuesday."
A couple of weeks ago during adult Bible class, we were talking about the flag being at half staff - which turned out to be after the shooting. The class leader said it should be at half staff until 0 bummer is gone. Everyone agreed with him.
Catholic is the only denomination identified for Christian voters, the rest are merely lumped together as Protestant, so whether one is an Episcopalian lesbian, a Southern Baptist that hasn't attended church since child hood, or a Methodist Minister, if they still say that they are Christian, then they all are counted as "the Protestant vote".
Good post, and I think that the Catholic vote for Obama nationally, will be the reverse of what it was in 2008, with a couple of points to spare.
Because they have lost their Faith.
“A nation that kills its own children is a nation without hope. John Paul II
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