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New poll: Catholics to vote 3 to 1 against Obama; explains why Cardinal Dolan not welcome at DNC
coachisright.com ^ | AUGUST 27TH, 2012 | Kevin "Coach" Collins

Posted on 08/27/2012 7:11:52 AM PDT by jmaroneps37

In the Leftist controlled media stories are shouted if they are helpful to Democrats, whispered if they are bad news for Democrats...

".. why a new poll a new poll commissioned by the American Life League (ALL) is so important. The poll conducted between August 15 and 19 spoke to 900 self-identified Catholic registered voters.

There are few English language superlatives that can accurately portray the findings of this survey.

“Earth shaking” “Sea Change” “Devastating” read them and take your pick.

The story was whispered on a recent NPR segment and here’s why.

A stunning 27% of Catholics told the interviewers they support Barack Obama. This is a 27 point fall from 2008.

Seventy four percent (74%) of Catholic men over 50 refuse to support Obama.

Moreover an almost identical 25% of Catholic men under 50 support Obama and 31% of Catholic women under 50 support him.

Catholic women over fifty support Obama at just a 23% rate.

Clearly Barack Obama’s plan to start a fight with Catholics is working but how can any Democrat be happy about the results?

The ALL survey found that 73% of its Catholic registered voter respondents see the mandate Obama has placed on Catholic institutions (including Catholic hospitals and indeed the office of Cardinal Dolan) to commit abortions and distribute contraceptive devices as a violation of their religious freedoms.

This explains why Cardinal Dolan the leader of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops was told he is not welcome to attend the Democrats’ convention in Charlotte North Carolina next month.

This survey …..claims a margin of error of +/- 3 points. Nevertheless, with numbers like this a 10 point MoE wouldn’t help Barack Obama and his Party.

“…Catholics who were 27%...

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: catholicvote
No Democrat has won the presidency since 1948 without winning the Catholic vote. Obama is not even close.
1 posted on 08/27/2012 7:12:01 AM PDT by jmaroneps37
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To: jmaroneps37

It better be even less than that voting for him. I can’t see why on God’s green earth that any Catholic could vote for a president who has spit directly in the face of the Church more than any other in history.


2 posted on 08/27/2012 7:17:17 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: al_c
I can’t see why on God’s green earth that any Catholic could vote for a president who has spit directly in the face of the Church more than any other in history.

Because like those from other sectors of society, government handouts appeal to them as well.

3 posted on 08/27/2012 7:19:31 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama, you're going down in November.)
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To: jmaroneps37

Excellent news. I am glad to see the majority of Catholics rejecting this evil man.


4 posted on 08/27/2012 7:19:37 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (My game is disruption. I will use lethal force --my vote-- in self-defense against Obama.)
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To: jmaroneps37
No Democrat has won the presidency since 1948 without winning the Catholic vote. Obama is not even close.

And their are many of them in PA, OH, MI, WI, & MN ergo why they are in "play"... It is the same demographic that gave Schumer and Emanuel the House and Senate in 06' IMHO and I wish I still had the map I found on-line to prove it, it has been gone for eons..... Turn about is fair play Schadenfreude Baby..

5 posted on 08/27/2012 7:19:53 AM PDT by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: jmaroneps37

“This explains why Cardinal Dolan the leader of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops was told he is not welcome to attend the Democrats’ convention in Charlotte North Carolina next month.”

I slightly disagree. If the democrats cared about Catholics, they would have Dolan at the DNC as sort of a peace offering. They don’t give a damn about Catholics & have declared all out war against Church teaching & Catholic values. THAT is why Dolan isn’t invited - the DNC is anti-Christ.


6 posted on 08/27/2012 7:20:32 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: jmaroneps37

Obama’s burnt toast.


7 posted on 08/27/2012 7:25:28 AM PDT by AU72
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To: jmaroneps37

Sorry to be the wet blanket here, but I have one big question. Was there any difference in the definition of Catholic between the 2008 poll and the current one? Unlike most denominations, people tend to stay “Catholic” even if they haven’t gone to church for years. I could easily see 50% of the total number supporting Obama but only 25% of the ones who go to mass weekly doing so. Unless the same criteria were used this poll might not be showing any real shift.


8 posted on 08/27/2012 7:25:48 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Recycled Olympic tagline Shut up, Bob Costas. Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up!)
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To: jmaroneps37

I smell a blowout in the making.


9 posted on 08/27/2012 7:29:43 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Worst. President. Ever.)
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To: surroundedbyblue

Agreed. If the Catholic vote mattered to them, and this was accurate, the polls wouldn’t be this close (or worse, Romney behind - see Rasmussen). The Dems clearly don’t care about the anti-HHS mandate/anti-abortion vote and it doesn’t seem to have hurt them in general polling. God help this Country.


10 posted on 08/27/2012 7:30:17 AM PDT by Nicojones
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To: jmaroneps37

so how come the north east, PA, DE, NJ, IL etc will go fro the socialists.

Catholics and Jews vote left because they do nto nkow te turht, because their parents did, because the union says to do so and because they;re ignorant and not really Catholic or Jewish until it suits them.


11 posted on 08/27/2012 7:31:54 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: jmaroneps37

THAT is some really good news!


12 posted on 08/27/2012 7:46:15 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: taildragger

“And their are many of them in PA, OH, MI, WI, & MN ergo why they are in “play”...

Obama lost the 2008 Catholic vote in Pa, Ohio, and Mn. The Catholic vote varied between 70% for Obama in NM to 70% against Obama in La. Of course this is all exit polling so who the heck knows anyhow.

I’m not sure Obama won the Catholic vote in any red state, I would love to know that (not saying he didn’t win either, I just don’t know). The whole 54% thing is a national number to my understanding, which isn’t as useful because we vote by state and the electoral college. In huge states like NY and Cali Obama won the Catholic vote handily, both by 59%. I don’t know what it was in Texas, which is another big one and a red state. But in a few fairly blue states like NJ (55%) McLame won. It seems like region has something to do with it as well as maybe the bishop.

I can’t see that Obama has helped his cause much with Catholics over the 2008 numbers, but who knows.

Freegards


13 posted on 08/27/2012 7:47:21 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: manc
"Democrats are for the poor people. Republicans are for the rich people."

Catholics think they're "poor people."

14 posted on 08/27/2012 7:57:40 AM PDT by eCSMaster ('Nancy Pelosi is a DINGBAT.' - Gov. Sarah Palin)
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To: jmaroneps37
As a Catholic who has been involved with the church, and who worked for a Catholic hospital for many years it has been my experience that the clergy has been considerably more liberal than the parishioners. The monks who ran the Hospital I worked for lived in a communal house and took a vow of poverty. It isn't hard to sell socialism to a group like that. But by forcing them to confront the abortion issue head on Obama made a mistake. The Alexian Brothers are men of principle. They will close the doors before they violate those principles.
15 posted on 08/27/2012 7:59:30 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: jmaroneps37

It should be 100% of them vote against.


16 posted on 08/27/2012 8:03:34 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
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To: reagan_fanatic

Dream on.


17 posted on 08/27/2012 8:07:01 AM PDT by karnage
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To: taildragger

While there are a lot of Catholics in the rust belt, and Obama thumbing his nose at them doesn’t help him, the main reason the Rust Belt is in play is simple, Obama has basically spit in the faces of the Blue Dog democrats for 4 years, and they are without question the largest group of democrats in the rust belt.

They are not leftist ideologues, they aren’t socialists, they aren’t supporters of having others pay for abortions etc. They are rather conservative folks who vote democrat because of generations ties of democrats to Unions. Obamas completely removal of the mask of what the democrats stand for economically and socially is why the Rust Belt is in play.


18 posted on 08/27/2012 8:12:00 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: jmaroneps37
There is a new book by Phyllis Schafly and George Neumayr called No Higher Power: Obama's War on Religious Freedom which was published very recently (includes events from early 2012).

Powerful book--covers the well-known and less well-known ways Obama has tried to destroy religious freedom and advance a militant form of secularism, not only at the expense of the Catholic Church but at the expense of all believers (other than Muslims).

Deserves a wide readership.

19 posted on 08/27/2012 8:14:18 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: jmaroneps37

The priest in my church said the following. That the ten commandments are more important than the constitution. He said that even elected officials would agree with that. He also said the President would agree with that, being general and not talking about barry at all.

Well well well I never saw this reaction in all my years. People starting yelling not Obama, dont go there, he is not a Christian. This from quiet reserved older people who attend mass during the week. very telling!!


20 posted on 08/27/2012 8:14:18 AM PDT by italianquaker ( 17 percent of the tea partiers support barry obama, the fox poll said so lol)
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To: karnage

he is correct.
...blowout of historic proportions.


21 posted on 08/27/2012 8:14:48 AM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: italianquaker
"What does it really matter to a man whose days are numbered what government he must obey, so long as he is not compelled to act against God or his conscience?"

--St. Augustine, quoted in No Higher Power by Phyllis Schafly and George Neumayr, p. 169.

22 posted on 08/27/2012 8:16:50 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: jmaroneps37

“No Democrat has won the presidency since 1948 without winning the Catholic vote. Obama is not even close. “

So the Catholic vote went for Obama, Clinton, Carter? Not much consistency, there.


23 posted on 08/27/2012 8:19:21 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: jmaroneps37

LOL! I guess those of us who predicted this were right despite the many self-proclaiming experts who tried to shout it down. It will be interesting to see what the final numbers are at the poll that counts.


24 posted on 08/27/2012 8:24:34 AM PDT by pallis
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To: GonzoGOP
Thank you for repeating what I have been saying for years now. Every time I bring up this FACT, I get labeled a Catholic basher or something worse. The Church, IMO, has been hard left for decades now. I know there are individuals and certain Bishops that are not, but the leadership is stuck on getting more foodstamps and welfare more than pro life and anti sodomites. If you are in a small parish in the boonies, you probably feel right at home as a conservative, but go to church in the city, and see the difference. There is NO DOUBT, they are pushing liberal ideas.

How a Catholic can say they are Catholic and not see that Dems give them abortion, sodomy, anti God, anti Bible, pro illegal alien, anti Israel rhetoric, and then vote for the Dems is beyond me.

Many times I have asked right here, where are the Bishops and cardinals that have come out against Obama and i get a few oped pieces thrown at me. What is being said at church? Very little, IMHO. Where is the outrage at Obama Care forcing the hospitals to pay for abortions? They will point to a lawsuit, but there should be outrage in the pews. All of this is because the liberal priests. bishops and cardinals want the welfare and unemployment to keep rolling in.

How else can we explain Boston, NYC and others supporting Pelosi, Kennedy, Kerry, et al? The movers and shakers in the Church are libs and we have covered our eyes for too long. There needs to be church discipline, but the church sees nothing to discipline. This has to come from higher up.

25 posted on 08/27/2012 8:43:15 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: jmaroneps37

That poll makes the shunning of the Bishop IN-explicable to me. You would think they would welcome any help they could get and having a Bishop bless the group couldn’t hurt.


26 posted on 08/27/2012 8:53:47 AM PDT by DManA
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To: jmaroneps37

As a Catholic, I love what Paul Ryan has to say about the issues - never heard a contradiction from him. Romney on the other hand has to keep up the present persona and get us to believe he has totally abandoned past liberal positions.


27 posted on 08/27/2012 8:59:07 AM PDT by ExxonPatrolUs ("Trizzle, trazzle, trozzle, trome, time for this one to come home" - Mr Wizard)
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To: jmaroneps37

Two points: This explains why they didn’t invite the Cardinal because they are trying to attract anti-Christians in general and anti-Catholics in particular. They can’t afford to send a mixed message. The Cardinal gambled and won. He knew very well they would say no. Now they have a bigger problem than they could ever imagine because the Cardinal has obviously been waiting until after Labor Day to start to fight. He has a huge lead already without really trying.
With 52% Pennsylvania has the highest percentage of self-identified Catholics in the country. Look it up.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_in_the_United_States


28 posted on 08/27/2012 9:08:05 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: jmaroneps37

I thought Rhode Island did?


29 posted on 08/27/2012 9:59:04 AM PDT by Andy'smom
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To: al_c
I can't see why on God's green earth that any Christian could vote for president who spits in the face of the Church. Including my church.
30 posted on 08/27/2012 10:01:43 AM PDT by ArmyTeach (Our liberties, we prize and our rights we will maintain ... USS Iowa BB 61)
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To: Elendur

Sure. It’s more likely that this generation will pay its own debts than Romney will win in a “blowout of historic proportions.”


31 posted on 08/27/2012 10:07:21 AM PDT by karnage
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To: jmaroneps37

I can imagine the conversation between Obama and Joe Biden.

Obama: “Hey there, Joey! How many Catholics are in the US?”

Biden: “I donno. A hundred? Kin I have a cookie?”

Obama: “Okay, a hundred. How many Muslims?”

Biden: “Mooses?”

Obama: “No. The other ones.”

Biden: “Oh, a whole bunch I guess. Like a bazillion.”

Obama: “Okay, that settles it. We’ll stick it to the Catholics, because they don’t matter, and invite the Muslims to pray at our convention, so they will vote for us.”


32 posted on 08/27/2012 11:06:23 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: ArmyTeach
I can't see why on God's green earth that any Christian could vote for president who spits in the face of the Church. Including my church.

That reminds me of a saying our previous LCMS pastor said during a non church event. "I don't know how any Christian can go to church on Sunday and vote for a democrat on Tuesday."

A couple of weeks ago during adult Bible class, we were talking about the flag being at half staff - which turned out to be after the shooting. The class leader said it should be at half staff until 0 bummer is gone. Everyone agreed with him.

33 posted on 08/27/2012 11:28:45 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (RINO season is open. No limit. Make them extinct.)
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To: KarlInOhio
Unlike most denominations, people tend to stay “Catholic” even if they haven’t gone to church for years.

Catholic is the only denomination identified for Christian voters, the rest are merely lumped together as Protestant, so whether one is an Episcopalian lesbian, a Southern Baptist that hasn't attended church since child hood, or a Methodist Minister, if they still say that they are Christian, then they all are counted as "the Protestant vote".

34 posted on 08/27/2012 12:30:05 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: GonzoGOP

Good post, and I think that the Catholic vote for Obama nationally, will be the reverse of what it was in 2008, with a couple of points to spare.


35 posted on 08/27/2012 12:43:03 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: al_c

Because they have lost their Faith.

“A nation that kills its own children is a nation without hope. John Paul II


36 posted on 09/10/2012 2:39:49 PM PDT by victim soul
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