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Winter is coming....
The Event ^ | 08/27/2012 | Jay Pounder

Posted on 08/27/2012 4:36:46 PM PDT by jaypounder

Winter is coming.... The time will come when winter will ask you what you were doing all summer.

- Henry Clay

I love the story of the Little Red Hen.

It is an amazing metaphor for what we truly should be looking for in our current society.

It is what, "We The People" are missing on the most basic level.

If you don't remember the story, here is a quick recap for you;

Come on over to "The Event" to read more;

http://www.preparespokane.blogspot.com/2012/08/winter-is-coming.html

(Excerpt) Read more at preparespokane.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Agriculture; Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Government
KEYWORDS: animalbite; dogbite; food; prepare; preppers; puncturewound; survival; winter

1 posted on 08/27/2012 4:36:55 PM PDT by jaypounder
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To: jaypounder
(I didn't bother to click over to the blog you're pimping but...)

Damn, I can't wait for winter.

I haven't got any heat tolerance whatsoever. In fact, last “winter” here in Philadelphia, the coldest it ever got, I'd walk home with just a heavy sports coat, maybe a scarf, and that was it. I strongly suspect that huge clouds of steam were billowing off behind me (the walk home is to the south west).

I fully expect to be wearing linen most of the winter this year.

If someone could convince me that global warming wasn't the biggest fraud of all times, I'd be marching around, checking out your garbage for recyclables.

2 posted on 08/27/2012 4:46:39 PM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Perrers’ PING!!


3 posted on 08/27/2012 4:48:52 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

We are on the Razor’s edge with our economics, government and our society and it won’t take much to pull things over the edge like a row of dominoes.

Personally I expect something much like the well I think that we are in for something like the collapse of Argentina ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yerKMQc7-w&feature=grec_index )but on a global scale.

Additionally I think we will see a much more violent version. As recent events show (Flash Mobs, OWS, etc) we have a larger entitlement minded population and violent prone and armed population than Argentina. I see many many small business wiped out by flash mob looting, and see rape, robbery and murder for murder sake.

Many of these ‘yutes’ will think no more about killing you than most people think about stepping on a roach. That will be the test of many. Most preppers I know are Christian people and they will hesitate to do what they might have to do to stop the ‘yutes’. On the other hand the ‘yutes’ won’t think twice nor lose a minute of sleep, in fact they will smile and laugh about it.

I can’t help, but think of this quote which is one of my favorites:

“Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: The Siege of AR-558 (#7.8)” (1998)

Quark: “Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. They’re a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon. You don’t believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes.”

Clearly there’s a storm coming, as great as a hurricane and like you do when a hurricane comes your way you either prepare to weather it or you become a victim of it.

For those who are just starting or are old hands at prepping you may find my Preparedness Manual helpfull. You can download it at:

http://tomeaker.com/kart/Preparedness1j.pdf

NOTE! THIS IS A FREE DOWNLOAD. I DO NOT MAKE ONE CENT OFF MY PREPAREDNESS MANUAL!

For those of you who haven’t started already it’s time to prepare almost past time maybe. You needed to be stocking up on food guns, ammo, basic household supplies like soap, papergoods, cleaning supplies, good sturdy clothes including extra socks, underwear and extra shoes and boots, a extra couple changes of oil and filters for your car, tools, things you buy everyday start buying two and put one up.

As the LDS say “When the emergency is upon us the time for preparedness has past.”

Or as the bible says: A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.
NIV Proverbs 22:3

“There is no greater disaster than to underestimate danger.
Underestimation can be fatal.”


4 posted on 08/27/2012 4:51:36 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
Perrers’ Preppers' PING!! ;-)
5 posted on 08/27/2012 4:53:23 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: jaypounder

6 posted on 08/27/2012 4:56:28 PM PDT by BreezyDog (PLAN A: A Peaceful Restoration of the Republic.....PLAN B: A Restoration of the Republic)
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To: Kartographer

We keep 12 full cords of hickory secured and stored out of the weather. Last winter was mild and we just used a few face cords. Look forward to cooler weather for a while ....

Good read ...thanks for your work here .

Stay safe !


7 posted on 08/27/2012 4:57:13 PM PDT by Squantos
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To: jaypounder

I just put fresh green beans in the freezer. Have to get a large tank of propane. We are far behind other preppers, but better than nothing and we could survive. Don’t know what’s coming, but Mr sneakers is finally on board with me on the prepping thing. Even he is getting nervous.

Just got a bunch of bacon flavored SPAM at Big Lots. Wow! It’s good! We’re going back for more. I highly recommend it.


8 posted on 08/27/2012 5:14:28 PM PDT by sneakers (Go Sheriff Joe!)
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To: Kartographer
Perrers’ PING!!

I once had a perrer, but lost it.

9 posted on 08/27/2012 5:15:16 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum
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To: Kartographer

There are now propane heaters safe to use in the house, “Mr. Heater”. It uses small propane bottles. I got one in case power goes off. I have sleeping bags good down to 5 below zero. I would use them in the house and Texas doesn’t get to less than 5 below zero and very seldom goes to that. I have a gas fireplace but if power went off for a while, the gas would eventually stop.

I also have warm clothes to wear.


10 posted on 08/27/2012 5:22:22 PM PDT by Marcella (Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: BreezyDog
Oh, you.

You're just saying that because folks like us ante up to keep this place running and we don't like people pimping their blogs here on our dime, free of charge.

We should stop being so petty.

11 posted on 08/27/2012 5:33:43 PM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: jaypounder
Are you not paying attention? Or were you lying when you said you'd post your whole blog here if only you could?

I (along with another helpful FReeper) told you how to do it easily, and I showed you on your last attempted posting here. (Too bad about that one. Are you still using material from InfoWars? That stuff will get you the Zot in a hurry around here you know.)

Well, just so folks don't go wasting time on a side trip, I've copied just a couple of paragraphs from your blog, so they can get a taste of the wonderful prose they're missing:

"Let me asking you another question, growing up, what toy did you treat with the most respect?

Was it the one that you bought with your own money?

Or was the one your parents bought you?

You see we are now seeing a growing epidemic of young people who grow up expecting everything handed to them on a silver platter. Their food, their clothes, their cell phone. They work for nothing!

Here is another example, their educations. As you can see from the cartoon on the right, in the past when you brought home bad grades, well that was your own fault.

Now it is the fault of the teachers because we feel the need to "protect" our children from anyone who would tell them that they aren't good enough. The expectation is that we are all special and we should get things handed to us!

We have been conditioned to it! Our Government does it everyday. Welfare, TANIF, MEDICAID, HUD... all of it... handouts. You don't even have make an attempt to work to get these things... walk in... sign on the dotted line and boom goes the dynamite... your dependent on them for everything!

We as a society are no longer teaching our children to own up to their lives and mistakes.

That is crap.

The issue we are seeing is that when we do what we see in the cartoon above it isn't doing anyone any good."


Well, in your defense, if I wrote prose like that, I wouldn't want anyone to see it either. If that's why you're excerpting, then I guess I understand.

Just for starters, a phrase like "That is crap." while it does contain a subject, verb and object, could hardly be called a well thought out sentence, much less a paragraph. You follow that gem with this one. "Or was the one your parents bought you?" That is neither a sentence or a paragraph. Then there's the issue of "you're" versus "your." Do yourself a favor and look it up.

I guess English Composition wasn't such a big deal at Mead Senior High School, was it? Well, as they say, the Devil is in the details.


12 posted on 08/27/2012 5:41:55 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Squantos

I just learned a really hard lesson about preparing for medical emergencies. I fell way short, particularly in the area of my judgement.

A week ago Friday Mrs. L was bitten by the neighbors dog. The bites themselves were fairly minor, not even a single stitch was needed. The paramedics were called and they all agreed it was no big deal. Now this happened at about 0100 on Friday. “Go see your doctor in the morning” was the advice from the “professionals. Keep in mind I’ve got a significant pile of antibiotics on hand and you’ll see just how badly I screwed up.

By noon that day when I took her to see our physician half of her right hand was almost twice it’s normal size. Our doctor took one look at it and sent us off to the urgent care clinic for a huge shot of antibiotics and pain medications. She was really hurting. We went home, had dinner, and went to bed.

When we got up Saturday morning, the telltale signs of serious systemic infection were all present. This is less than 30 hours after the injury. Back to our family doctor we went. She took one look at it and said “Wait here. I need to make a couple of phone calls.”. Mrs L was not looking well at all at this point, with a fever of 100.5. Off to the hospital we went and she was in a room getting massive amounts of antibiotics intravenously in less than an hour.

She spent 5 full days in the hospital getting 3 GRAMS of ampicillin a day PLUS 3 milligrams of morphine every 4-5 hours “as needed”. Surgery was required to clean out the infection and as I write this she’s still recovering and is wont be able to return to work for another for another 3 days at least.

Perhaps if I’d reached into my stash when she was bitten and pushed 1000 mg of ampicillin into her things might not have gotten so bad as quickly as they did. According to the infectious disease specialist who consulted on her case another 24 hours and she would have been in life threatening trouble. All because I didn’t recognize a serious situation before it reached a critical level.

So like I said, I learned a really, really hard lesson here. All the “stuff” in the world is useless if you don’t recognize an emergency situation when its kicking you right in the balls. I came scary, scary close to losing the thing I value most in this world all due to a serious error in judgement.

She is on the mend now, but I took a well deserved blow to my ego. I thank Heaven above things turned out the way they did. I sure as hell had nothing to do with it.

Hope all is well.


13 posted on 08/27/2012 5:49:50 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Kartographer

Kart,

I love being on the list and always check. R U OK?, or were you just in a hurry? Perrers’? If I hadn’t checked “From” I might have thought it was a not-so-nimble fingered frog suggesting a certain bottled water. ;).

Thanks for all you do and particularly for you manual at tomeakers’.

tmp


14 posted on 08/27/2012 5:53:22 PM PDT by hotshu (Redistribution of wealth by the government is nothing but theft under the color of law.)
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To: Lurker

I’m happy to hear your wife made it.

Be careful my friend.


15 posted on 08/27/2012 5:56:58 PM PDT by blam
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To: jaypounder
"The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco."

Mark Twain

16 posted on 08/27/2012 6:02:59 PM PDT by stboz
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To: blam

Every once in a while Life gives you a smack in the face. I am thanking God this one wasn’t harder.


17 posted on 08/27/2012 6:04:11 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker

Wow! Great reminder. You never know. I’m praising God she came out OK!


18 posted on 08/27/2012 6:14:02 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Lurker

Puncture wounds can be very iffy even when the dogs are your own.

I stupidly stuck my foot in between a couple of litter mates who were asserting dominance and the “sweeter” of the two snapped due to the adreneline. I ended up with a wound that took about two months to heal. I and my better half immediately soaked it with peroxide, applied antibiotic ointment and repeated that procedure with fresh dressings until the wound healed.

My takeaway was to have plenty of peroxide, sterile dressing and antibiotic cream on hand. I know it won’t solve every problem, but it kept me from having some government busybody asking how about my “vicious” dog.

He loves picking nectarines off the trees, btw.

tmp


19 posted on 08/27/2012 6:17:47 PM PDT by hotshu (Redistribution of wealth by the government is nothing but theft under the color of law.)
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To: jaypounder

“When Chekhov saw the long winter, he saw a winter bleak and dark and bereft of hope. Yet we know that winter is just another step in the cycle of life. But standing here among the people of Punxsutawney and basking in the warmth of their hearths and hearts, I couldn’t imagine a better fate than a long and lustrous winter. “


20 posted on 08/27/2012 6:23:06 PM PDT by Rebelbase (The most transparent administration ever is clear as mud.)
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To: Lurker

I met a guy about 10 years ago who had been bitten by a feral cat. He didn’t think anything of it, but his finger got infected very quickly. They ended up having to amputate his finger. I learned to treat all animal bites seriously, even if they seem like no big deal.

Hope your wife is feeling better soon.


21 posted on 08/27/2012 6:26:31 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: hotshu

I forgot to mention the breed of dog that bit her.

Jack Russel/Corgi mix.


22 posted on 08/27/2012 6:27:02 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker

Freepmail incoming.... Wow !

Glad she’s better....


23 posted on 08/27/2012 6:34:03 PM PDT by Squantos
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To: Rebelbase

LOL!

We just watched that again last weekend.


24 posted on 08/27/2012 6:34:28 PM PDT by 2111USMC (aim small, miss small)
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To: Lurker

My Lab eventually sent me to a tendon repair surgery. I still love him tho’.

Glad Ms. L recuped!

I hear those little ones like cat litter. lol


25 posted on 08/27/2012 6:38:27 PM PDT by hotshu (Redistribution of wealth by the government is nothing but theft under the color of law.)
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To: Rebelbase

OH NO! NOT AGAIN!

Eyes


26 posted on 08/27/2012 7:10:46 PM PDT by AlligatorEyes (Iactura paucourm serva multos)
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To: y'all

The Doors - Summer’s Almost Gone ( Demo 1965 )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwI0A7z1G_w


27 posted on 08/27/2012 7:30:17 PM PDT by deks ("...the battle of our time is the battle of liberty against the overreach of the federal government")
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To: Marcella

“Mr Heater” fan here too. Still worjing good after 5 years.
Cover the bottle connection when you store it to keep spiders out!
The second year I got the adapter kit to use a large bottle.


28 posted on 08/27/2012 7:44:42 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Lurker

I am so sorry that happened. That tells us to make every effort to prevent an injury from getting worse - to trust ourselves and just do it. Who would have thought it would get that bad? I am so glad she survived.


29 posted on 08/27/2012 8:29:42 PM PDT by Marcella (Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: mrsmith

““Mr Heater” fan here too.”

I’m glad to know it worked well for you. I bought mine in March and haven’t had to use it but it’s here when I DO need it.


30 posted on 08/27/2012 8:35:27 PM PDT by Marcella (Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: hotshu

I got bit badly just 6 weeks ago by my own dog, who was deaf, senile, in pain and may have just had a stroke. 15 puncture wounds and some bad bruising. My fault for moving his legs when he couldn’t do it himself.

After a bad experience in the ER, where I got no cleaning, a gentle wrap saturated w/Bacitracin (not recommended for puncture wounds right on the label), a tetanus shot (needed), a morphine shot, a script for doxycycline 100mg 2xday for 3 days and instructions to soak in warm soapy water, I went home and irrigated the wounds w/saline and then soaked the entire arm in Epsom salt solution (1 tsp to 1 gallon). I was not convinced about the doxy and called my physician, who gave me a 2 week script for something much stronger (I forget the name)and recommended using silver sulfadiazine ointment after the soaks. I used non-adhesive gauze pads w/the silver sulfadiazine and wrapped the arm w/ gauze for 3 days. After that, I used the cream on adhesive gauze pads.

The important points: irrigate often; soak often w/epsom salts, use a non-irritating, non-occluding antibiotic/antiseptic cream and take an antibiotic that is strong enough for a long enough period. Peroxide can further irritate the tissue and not do that much good. A physician/RN/EMT/corpsman can determine if there are tears that need stitching, but leaving the wound open to drain appears to be the consensual advice and puncture wounds should not be stitched. Ointments that are petroleum based occlude the wound and can increase the chance for infection. Read labels. Keep puncture wounds irrigated and covered w/an appropriate cream until they scab on their own w/no more seepage. Keep a tight eye on swelling and seepage to determine whether the seepage is fluid and blood (this should be allowed to drain out) or pus (thickness/color/odor) and that the swelling is localized w/no spreading red streaks. There will be swelling and deep tissue damage even after the surface wounds have closed. Keep soaking until this disappears.

I have one area that is still a slightly tender lump, where the jaws crushed periosteum (the membrane on the outside of a bone) and another small area that is still slightly lumpy as the displaced tissue regenerates. I have two scars that will need some silicone gel sheets, but right now I am just waiting to make sure there is a mature scar that won’t reopen. Better a scar than an infection, IMO.

We kept our old dog too long and he was past ready to go. He could have severed my arm, but he just bit down multiple times, no tearing, no shaking. It could have been a lot worse.

I was asked if it was my dog and if he had had his shots. He had. Since he was so old, he had been seen by the vet often in the previous ten days and no one followed up demanding a head for a rabies test, thank God. We did end up having him put down and we really should have done it sooner. It is such a hard call.


31 posted on 08/27/2012 8:46:59 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: Lurker

Oh my goodness! We have one of those, and I can see how quickly that can happen. Glad your wife is OK now.


32 posted on 08/28/2012 4:39:58 AM PDT by Library Lady
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To: jaypounder

33 posted on 08/28/2012 4:55:59 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: sneakers
Wish I could get Mr. b on board. I let him think the garden is a hobby because he can't handle the truth. I take a few items to the grandparents here and there and drop hints but they refuse to see even though they grew up during the Depression. The kids were taught to be self sufficient but then they hit their teens and 20s and this mama hen's IQ dropped to about 45. I just hope for their all sakes that my IQ continues to stay at rock bottom for a long time.
34 posted on 08/28/2012 5:50:05 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Lurker

You got lucky there and learned a valuable lesson.

What I’m most amazed at is you got care that day and was able to see someone on Saturday. Around here, I’m turning into those folks who don’t have insurance and run to the ER for everything because the doctors won’t see you for a week or two and they keep bankers’ hours.


35 posted on 08/28/2012 6:06:48 AM PDT by bgill
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To: jaypounder; Kartographer

VALLADOLID, Spain—Even though she’s one of millions of young, unemployed Spaniards, 22-year-old Silvia Martín takes comfort in knowing that her bank is still standing behind her. It’s not a lending institution, but rather a time bank whose nearly 400 members barter their services by the hour.

Ms. Martín, who doesn’t own a car and can’t afford taxis, has relied on other time-bank members to give her lifts around town for her odd jobs and errands, as well as to help with house repairs. In return, she has cared for members’ elderly relatives, organized children’s parties and even hauled boxes for a member moving to a new house.

.........

Besides time banks, they include barter markets springing up in barrios, local currencies designed to spur the flagging retail economy, and charity networks that repurpose discarded goods. An environmental group recently launched Huertos Compartidos, or Shared Gardens, that links up owners of vacant land with those willing to plant vegetables in them and share the harvest.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443404004577577352038273664.html?KEYWORDS=time+barter


36 posted on 08/28/2012 6:42:17 AM PDT by dervish (ABO)
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To: Lurker

Wishing her a full and speedy recovery.

Having been bitten by dogs I know that the wound must be kept open because of the high danger of infection. If the skin is broken antibiotics are needed. Tetanus shot too.


37 posted on 08/28/2012 6:49:11 AM PDT by dervish (ABO)
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To: South Hawthorne
Damn, I can't wait for winter.

If you are speaking metaphorically, I must ask, "Are you mad?"

If you speak of actual Winter...cold weather and snow...then I suggest you bother to click over to the blog. You sort of missed the point.

But I'm with you. I hate warm weather and would rather live in colder climes year round.

38 posted on 08/28/2012 11:50:17 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.)
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To: Lurker
She spent 5 full days in the hospital getting 3 GRAMS of ampicillin a day~

They gave the wrong antibiotic. They should have given your wife Keflex at a minimum.

Glad to hear that she is recuperating well.

39 posted on 08/28/2012 4:36:21 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Don't think for a minute that this excuse for a President has America's best interest in mind.)
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To: Sarajevo

Thanks for the advice but I’m pretty sure the Infectious Disease specialist had a handle on things.


40 posted on 08/28/2012 5:33:14 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Number two (I clicked over to the blog, but it was a mess of jumbled syntax).

How humans ever settled south of Massachusetts, I'll never understand.

41 posted on 08/28/2012 5:57:22 PM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: South Hawthorne

I can wait for winter, but when it gets here I hope it’s a good one. I live in the Lehigh Valley and you’re right, last winter sucked.


42 posted on 08/28/2012 6:03:41 PM PDT by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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