Posted on 08/28/2012 10:24:54 AM PDT by CedarDave
I just got off the phone with a concerned Florida activist, Laura Noble, who informed me that both of Florida's Rules Committee members, Peter Feaman and Kathleen King, have been removed from the Rules committee and replaced with Romney-appointed delegates.
Clearly anticipating a grassroots backlash against the "compromise" on Rule 15 and the changes on Rule 12 has caused the Romney camp to preemptively replace delegates to ensure they have support on the Rules Committee.
It's enough to make your blood boil. Please call your state's Rules Committee delegates here and ask that they oppose the "compromise" on Rule 15, oppose the changes to Rule 12, and support the full Minority Reports on the Rules.
UPDATE: Delegations we should be focusing on include the following states: North Carolina, Oregon, Indiana, Ohio, Nebraska, Kansas, Arkansas, Tennessee, and West Virginia.
(Excerpt) Read more at freedomworks.org ...
The Texas delegates have been fighting mad about these rule changes and fighting hard against them.
I’m trying to get an update from one now about the 2:00 meeting.
this is sickening.
IF and I do mean IF this country survives to another election after this mess and people like Akin cause the loss of this election.... this republican party needs to go.
The days of the old guys and the elite need to end.
Rush is all over this today and he is not happy.
Bulleffingshoot!!!!
Unintended good-thing consequences will come of this.
For decades social conservatives and smaller-govt conservatives have taken solace that they had some influence at the convention in building the platform. Which, as we all know, is pretty much useless as the part all but ignores the platform after the convention.
Maybe now those groups will spend more time focusing on things that matter: getting people who share their principles elected.
So who is it here that keeps saying “we’ll deal with Romney later?” No. You will not.
Behold the dismantling of Conservatism. More simply put ... “told ya”.
I for one will actively campaign against the Republican candidate more passionately then I do against Obama if the RINO’s succeed at changing the rules as they are attempting.
If they succeed, in 2016 the party will become pro abortion, anti-Christian and yes even anti-2nd amendment.
So the only reason I have to even call myself a Republican will have been destroyed, and thus I will cease to support the GOP.
I used to say that Romney will win in a landslide. I even have a standing $1000.00 bet for anyone willing to take me up on it. However, if he does this, then I believe Obama will win.
My good friend Julie is one of the Texas delegates. She keeps updating her Facebook about it. She said lots of the Texas delegates have given up and not going to fight this rule. She’s hoping to change minds and is fighting!!
I say that's BS.
The country is going down in flames and we can't stop it. Voting for Romney won't stop it. I see no reason to vote in November. None. Nada. I'm waiting for the tree of liberty to be watered. My vote stopped counting a long time ago.
Back around 1940, some Americans thought that Hitler probably wasn't so bad -- he was friends with Joe Stalin, and that was pretty cool, huh? Then he invaded Russia and they ran around in a panic saying we had to support Stalin -- maybe Stalin wasn't perfect, but,hey, he wasn't Hitler.
Well, you can go vote for Stalin if you want, and you can tell everyone that you're saving the world from Hitler. As for me, I won't vote for Hitler and I won't vote for Stalin. You see ... I'm a Conservative.
I am HIGHLY pissed off at this and at what I fear will be coming out of the rules committee. It took me a while to come around and support Romney; now I’m beginning to think it may be best to forget Romney and let the house burn down with Obama leading it. We can rebuild and rebuild it right.
The GOPe wants to purge us? I think it time to seriously think about purging them.
Damn, I’m pissed!!!@ And I don’t what to do to prevent this at the last minute.
Yep
So is it within the rules for Romney to replace the committee members?
I’m not clear on what the issue is.
Is this another response to Ron Paul trying to stack the delegates in his favor even though voters rejected him?
Anyway, looks like I might have some company in the third party vote line.
Could someone post a quick summary of what is happening and what Romney hopes to acheive with it? It seems like every article I read on this brings me in at the halfway point and I’m having some trouble putting all the pieces together.
Romney is replacing delegates with his own to accomplish...what?
If things continue down this road (including his recent mealy-mouth abortion position)I’m getting the sense that this could be a transition election. Elect Romney, then either challenge him in 2016 or form a Tea Party third party.
Issues...
GOP Rules Committee Rapidly Moving to Shut Out Grassroots at 2:00 p.m. Today (It's not over)
Really? Rush is downplaying it right now.
I'm going to vote, but not for these two clowns. I'm voting for Virgil Goode of the constitution party. I want my vote to be counted. I'm hoping that with help, to send a message to the GOP, that the Father of Obamacare and the Father of Gay Marriage was not an acceptable candidate. And that we want more change than just a GOP labeled Obama.
And if the GOP doesn't get the message, then I'm hoping to send a message to disgruntled GOP and Democrats that there is a growing third party alternative. (assuming it grows).
They can't change any convention rules unless the delegates on the floor vote the changes. What is the mix on the floor?
I'm not trying to be argumentative -- I honestly don't get it. Exactly who are these people being removed, and who put them in those places to be removed in the first place?
"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.”
-- John Quincy Adams
“Anyway, looks like I might have some company in the third party vote line.”
You and me both. I’ve been leaning Constitution party since Bloody Thursday, but have been holding out the hope Romney can win me back to the Republicans. That hope has all but faded now. If the conservative movement insists on living entirely within thus corrupt party, then we give them the power to destroy us. That’s a power not even the most radical leftist Democrat President has.
Just spoke to my Minnesota Convention Committee Rules Rep and she stated MN is solid support on Minority Report and encourages us to call other states reps!!!
http://www.eagleforum.org/alert/2012/pdf/ConventionCommitteeonRulesOrdeofBusinessContactInfo.pdf
*sheepish* I engaged in too much rhetoric. I also have every intention of voting for Virgil Goode.
Did he just receive his marching order?
These idiots are fighting the wrong battle.
Where are the "don't give 0bama a vote by not supporting Romney" now when the GOP are disenfranchising the conservative core of the party?
“Can somebody explain why these rule changes are so important?”
The establishment is setting the table for the next election. They’re creating a system where the nomination, political agenda, and platform building process will be completely and entirely under the control of a small number of party insiders - thus eliminating the influence of movements like the Tea Party. We can vote and march all day long, but at the end of the day the establishment types will pick the winners and set the political agenda with these changes.
“That’s a power not even the most radical leftist Democrat President has.”
Where have you been, in a plastic bay? Can you not say OBAMA?
Yes, this is Romney/Bain brain at work. Dump the workers you don't want, and put your own people in those jobs, then you control the whole group of people. He wants control of the rules and he will get it by underhanded deception, but he is a successful business man - how do you think he did that? The same way he is trying to take over this rules committee.
Those supporting Romney put together a false image of him in their brain - they needed a savior from Hussein and put a halo above Romney because they wanted to. A vision is not real. Romney is a vision to those people and the vision just started melting away.
Mr. RomneyCARE is excited, at last.
The partner of Soros, Mr. RomneyCARE smells the blood
of conservatives — and his vicious Team are all
over them.
It’s patriotic for the GOP to do the same crap to conservatives they say Obama will.
Makes perfect sense to support our own demise....
Roger that - until folks stop plaing "the game" we are doomed. The only question so far is when we reach the point of no return.
It's all about the future of the party and keeping those upstart Tea Party supporters from upsetting the GOP-e apple cart.
Going forward it gives the national party apparatus control over delegate selection, front-loading of early primaries (winner takes all vs. proportional) and freedom to change rules between party conventions. All designed to minimize grassroots conservatives from having much influence.
It isn't about Ron Paul (though its convenient to blame him), but about a future candidate who is at odds with the GOP establishment.
Mr. McDaniel,
I am supporting Romney and the GOP with a healthy suspicion based on our candidates very moderate past. I support the Tea Party agendas for conservative goevernance and believe their influence is URGENTLY needed in the GOP today. We really need Obama out and I expect Romney to make good on his campaign promises.
I have been dissappointed in our party in the last decade as the conservative values adopted and re-established by Reagan have steadily declined to the point of spurring a genuine conservative grass roots activism apparent in the Tea Party Movement.
I emphatically urge you to not accept rules changes that would silence the conservative influence that is rallying this nation and the GOP back to improve our great nation. The voters are taking some control over the governance of this nation. Establishment politicians have done plenty of damage. We need visionary patriots with America’s core values at heart and her future in mind to be governing to conservative standards.
The Rule 15 compromise and other rule changes are a slap in the face to the Tea Party and its supporters.
I and my family will register as Independents and consider our options if Romney’s rule changes go into effect.
Please share this e-mail with your colleagues. I may be but one voter. But the Tea Party and its supporters are watching VERY CAREFULLY these days.
Sincerely,
Pretty damn quick.
“Can you not say OBAMA?”
I can. Can you not say Benedict Arnold?
I’m glad I’m not the only one in the dark. The only reason for replacing that I see, is to stop the Paultards. Fox is saying half the covention is screaming RON PAUL and half is screaming MITT ROMNEY. I also heard Paul will not releae his delegates. Like I said yesterday, now is the time for a united front. Not infighting. Paul lost. They need to get over it and move on.
ie Mittens. Hell yes.
I just listened to the first hour. He was pretty hard on the professionals who run the party.
On one hand, I can say Romney and his supporters are wrong on principle on the rule changes they seek.
On the other hand I could say he and his group are not very politically savy, or maybe even politically stupid.
They may be in an uneasy alliance of convenience for the moment, in the GOP, with a GOP base that is more Conservative than they are, a base without whom they will not beat Obama, and they chose, and I mean chose, to stir up an internal GOP hornets nest at this time, before the general election?
Why? They have the nomination, so, they have another four years to go “in power” at the RNC if they win, so, in the long war it is really stupid to chose this particular battle at this time.
One thing for sure, it spells for a rocky road ahead for any President Romney with what will be a more Conservative GOP majority in at least the House if not both houses of Congress.
Thsnks for the info. It appears this is much deeper than Paul.
Akin is not the problem. A GOP so off course that it could be manipulated into a Romney nomination is a real problem.
“Can somebody explain why these rule changes are so important? I don’t get it. Why should I care if certain delegates are on some committee, and others aren’t? Does it actually matter? Romney’s the candidate, Ryan’s the Veep nominee, so what’s the point of the rest of this stuff?
I’m not trying to be argumentative — I honestly don’t get it. Exactly who are these people being removed, and who put them in those places to be removed in the first place?”
You should care because the aristocrats and oligarchs are choosing our leaders for us. They are setting up the machinery to ensure that only someone they choose will become the republican nominee ever again. How do you think we get such men as Gerald Ford, Robert Dole, George Bush and his son, and now Mitt Romney. They worked hand in hand to destroy Goldwater, and since Reagan’s two landslides, they’ve been working to ensure that a conservative never again gets the nomination because they cannot be controlled. They’ll pick someone and that’ll be it because where are we going to go, they’ll say.
Mr. RomneyCARE has just proven that HE CANNOT BE TRUSTED.
The warnings were there before, but his Team
of Saboteurs took out the conservatives (a job they
feel is not finished).
Mr. RomneyCARE is an enemy of conservative issues.
All of them.
Just sent emails to the two rules committee members of the Maryland delegation.
Done, to both my reps. No idea if they are receptive.
I sent mine to the two NM rules committee delegates a couple of hours ago. But if party Romneybots have taken control and are removing and replacing delegates it may not do much good.
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