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Obama’s 27% support among Catholics presents a huge advantage for Romney
coachisright.com ^ | August 29, 2012 | Kevin “Coach” Collins

Posted on 08/29/2012 8:02:10 AM PDT by jmaroneps37

new survey of 900 registered Catholic voters holds devastating news for Obama that cannot be overstated. It says 54% of Catholic voter support he had in 2008 has dwindled to just 27% (MoE +/- 3 points); a historic low level no one running for president can survive.

This 27% Catholic support for Obama will have important consequences for Obama and his Party in several states with sizable Catholic populations.

While some might attempt to belittle this gap by pointing to the fact that only about 24% are “adherent Catholics” that argument is defeated by the fact that the survey found that 73% of respondents said they cannot support Obama because of his mandate forcing Catholic institutions to commit abortions and distribute contraceptive devices to their employees.

It says that by 3 to 1 self-identified Catholics are angry and insulted by Obama’s attempts to dictate their religious practice.

Numbers this large indicate that whether these voters do or don’t attend Mass on a regular basis has nothing to do with these feelings of being insulted and threatened by this president.

By state here are the percentages of Catholics and the Electoral Vote value of each one.

Pennsylvania (53%) 20 EVs,

New Jersey (39%) 14 EVs New Hampshire (35%) 4 EVs, Wisconsin (29%)10 EVs

Florida (26%) 29 EVs New Mexico (26%) 5 EVs, Minnesota (25%) 10EVs Colorado (24%) 9 EVs,

Ohio (24%) 18 EVs, Iowa (23%) 6 EVs, Michigan (23%) 16 EVs, Missouri (20%) 10 EVs, Nevada (24%) 6 EVs,

When states that are “tied” or Romney is winning are separated out just Minnesota remains as a tough nut to crack among states that have at least a 20% Catholic populations. Holding Minnesota’s 10 and New Jersey's 14 EVs add[s] up to 133…

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TOPICS: Government; Politics; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: catholicvote
This explains why the Democrats HAD to do a 180 and invite Cardinal Dolan to do their DNC closing prayer. They believe the poll results even if their cheerleaders in the media ignored them. Added to the bag states it putsRomney on top.
1 posted on 08/29/2012 8:02:11 AM PDT by jmaroneps37
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To: jmaroneps37

Perhaps Bishop Dolan can do a baptism at the RNC and a Requiem at the DNC


2 posted on 08/29/2012 8:05:57 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Common sense although common knowledge is seldom common practice.)
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To: jmaroneps37

I hope every old JFK democrat is watching when the DNC has their Islamic extravaganza at the convention. It should make them run to the Republican nominee.

Soon to be followed by the abortion love fest, followed by the queer love fest. Hope they watch it all.


3 posted on 08/29/2012 8:06:52 AM PDT by nobamanomore
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To: jmaroneps37

Lets hope this holds up. If it swings OH., and WI., it should be the edge for R&R.


4 posted on 08/29/2012 8:09:40 AM PDT by wmfights
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To: jmaroneps37

I hope this is true and holds up. I worry about the mushy brained cultural Catholics who don’t really practice or believe their faith...


5 posted on 08/29/2012 8:10:34 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: jmaroneps37

Actually, I’d think a more telling figure is just exactly what percentage of so-called Muslim Americans plan to vote for him. Or, alternately, just ask the questions from Christians of all flavors......either way, it boils down to him not being a traditional American with traditional American moral values, period.


6 posted on 08/29/2012 8:12:24 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: jmaroneps37
Obama’s 27% support among Catholics
How can even one Catholic support a Marxist who is pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage and anti-freedom of religion?
7 posted on 08/29/2012 8:14:59 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Gaffer

Further, name me one, just one ‘Christian,’ Catholic, or Jew for that matter that has EVER uttered the phrase “....my Muslim Faith...” or the Mulsim call to prayer in Indonesia being the “sweetest sound I ever heard” beyond Obama and I might think this Catholic canard thing is relevant to Obama as a Christian.


8 posted on 08/29/2012 8:18:46 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: stocksthatgoup
'..and a Requiem at the DNC.'

At least an Exorcism.

9 posted on 08/29/2012 8:19:40 AM PDT by JPG (Make it happen.)
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To: jmaroneps37

Thanks for this as well as your interesting article yesterday. Catholics are the classic swing vote these days. It would be interesting if we could measure the preferences of practicing Catholics versus non practicing Catholics. The mayor of my city, Antonio Villaraigosa, was born into the Catholic faith but he has little use for the Church. Back in the day, would Hitler have been included in the “Catholic Vote” category even though as an adult he NEVER attended Mass and was extremely secular in his world view?


10 posted on 08/29/2012 8:19:48 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: jmaroneps37

Both, ObamaCare and RomneyCare have enough in them to upset Catholics, so both candidates are disappointments to Catholics and to conservatives, in general.


11 posted on 08/29/2012 8:21:56 AM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: jmaroneps37

Appears Catholics are awakening!


12 posted on 08/29/2012 8:34:09 AM PDT by elephant
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To: oh8eleven

Easy. They swallowed whole the ‘social justice’ b.s. from liberal, modern Catholic Clergy; and look at government as an agent of force to accomplish that social justice.

‘Social Justice’ in its current meaning is a heresy - a twisting of the Corporal Acts of Mercy...

Feed the hungry

Give drink to the thirsty

Shelter the homeless

Clothe the naked

Visit the sick

Visit those in prison

Bury the dead

...which individual Catholics are supposed to be doing on their own as an act of Penance, and through the institution of the Catholic Church, as part of its mission on Earth.

Those things are definitely *NOT* supposed to be foisted off onto government to preserve the church coffers and absolve individual Catholics of the “bother” of having to do them, themselves.

Advocates of Doing It Wrong have been: Ted Kennedy, Nancy Pelosi, etc., etc, and many others.


13 posted on 08/29/2012 8:43:01 AM PDT by Reagan80 ("In this current crisis, government is not the solution to our problems, government IS the problem")
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To: jmaroneps37

If Obama’s support among Catholics drops in half, even NJ would be in play, and we’d be looking at a rout of Reaganesque proportions. Obama won NJ with 2.2 million votes to 1.6 million for McCain. The percentage of Catholics in NJ is 39%, which means they cast a total of .39 * 3.8 million = about 1.5 million votes, 54% of which went to Obama. So, Obama got .54 * 1.5 million Catholic votes= about 800,000.

If the Catholic % for Obama drops in half, from 54% to 27%, he would lose half of those 800,000 Catholic votes. Those 400,000 votes would go to Romney. That would drop Obama from his 2008 total of 2.2 million to 1.8 million, and raise the republican vote from 1.6 million to 2.0 million.

Losing half the Catholic vote in NJ would give Romney a 2.0 million to 1.8 million victory in NJ, which is a 52.6% to 47.4% breakdown. If this is true (it can’t be true, can it?) then Romney carries my home state (and Chris Christie’s) by 5 points. If NJ is in play, then virtually everything is in play.


14 posted on 08/29/2012 8:44:29 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (I didn't write this by myself. Obama helped me. Everyone helped me.)
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To: oh8eleven
How can even one Catholic support a Marxist who is pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage and anti-freedom of religion?

Ditto for Jews. Obama's support for Israel can charitably be described as tepid, more realistically as downright hostile.

15 posted on 08/29/2012 8:46:14 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (I didn't write this by myself. Obama helped me. Everyone helped me.)
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To: jmaroneps37
27% of Catholics support Obama! How disappointing. Just goes to show that there are complete moron, imbeciles among us.
16 posted on 08/29/2012 8:50:10 AM PDT by kenmcg (t)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

If you could subtract out Hispanics who vote overwhelmingly Democrat most of the time, and Catholics In Name Only (CINOs), John McCain actually WON the “Catholic Vote” by probably well over 60% in 2008.


17 posted on 08/29/2012 8:53:42 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: jmaroneps37

Obama lost the 2008 Catholic vote in Pa, Ohio, and NJ. The Catholic vote varied between 70% for Obama in NM to 70% against Obama in La. Of course this is all exit polling so who the heck knows anyhow.

I’m not sure Obama won the Catholic vote in any red state, I would love to know that (not saying he didn’t win either, I just don’t know). Does anyone out there know?

The whole 54% thing is a national number to my understanding. Which isn’t as useful because we vote by state and the electoral college. You would assume the national number is made up of all the state elections, but I can’t find a complete list. Seems like 70% for and 70% against is a pretty big split, maybe based on region and teaching/discipline track record of bishop?

In huge states like NY and Cali Obama won the Catholic vote handily, both by 59%. I don’t know what it was in Texas, which is another big one and a red state. But in a few fairly blue and Catholic states like NJ and Pa, he lost.

I can’t see that Obama has helped his cause much with Catholics over the 2008 numbers, but who knows. Opinion polling on this might be flawed, like the ‘gay marriage’ vs secret ballot deal. But the 54% thing is a little misleading, as he actually already lost the Catholic vote in some key swing states that actually went blue in 2008, hopefully maybe he will lose enough from last time to lose the state this time around.

Freegards


18 posted on 08/29/2012 9:17:46 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

It’s stats like these, like the fact that senate candidates such as Linda McMahon in CT (up in a Dem state) or Mandel in OH (an unknown tied with an established incumbent), or the tiny 4-point Obama lead in Northern VA (where he won by 23% in 08)-—it’s the micro data like this that points to an overwhelming electoral college victory for the GOP.


19 posted on 08/29/2012 9:18:00 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: jmaroneps37

Where are the Catholic-heavy mega-states? California? New York? Illinois? Massachusetts? What about the Hispanic vote?

I’ve defended Catholic morality vis a vis voting against evangelicals who blame Catholicism for Obama’s election, for instance: accounting for where they live, Catholics vote more Republican than Protestants. Only when desciptors which correlate with conservatism among Protestants (”white,” “evangelical,” etc.) do Protestants vote more Republican. Or in years when Republicans bitch-slap conservatives (1992, 1996, 2008).

But no way do I believe that Obama’s only going to get 27% of Catholics, when Catholics are so often steeped in bitterly left-wing cultures like those of New York, LA, Chicago, Boston, Philly, Baltimore, Detroit, San Francisco, etc. In most of those cities, Republicans must be closeted, and “the Village Voice” is regarded as reactionary.


20 posted on 08/29/2012 9:19:54 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Ransomed

I was pretty sure that merely applying the national 54% to 27% drop in Catholic vote to specific states, like NJ, would yield erroneous results. It’s obvious, as you pointed out so well, that the numbers must be applied on a state-by-state basis to be meaningful.

Nevertheless, losing half of a gigantic religious voting bloc is obviously a big effing deal, to paraphrase Joe Biden, and, if true, should bring home enough of the swing states to insure a Romney win. I think I’ll have to wait a little longer for NJ to swing red.


21 posted on 08/29/2012 9:37:03 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (I didn't write this by myself. Obama helped me. Everyone helped me.)
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To: jmaroneps37

Eeeeek, 27% of Catholics still support an anti-Christian president?

What do these idiots think of next?


22 posted on 08/29/2012 10:09:44 AM PDT by 353FMG (The US Constitution is only as good as those who enforce it.)
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To: 353FMG
What do these idiots think of next?

They're no different than Protestants, Jews, and agnostics.

They're 99ers, EBT/TANFers, Section 8ers, and other ways to receive govt largesse.

23 posted on 08/29/2012 10:12:37 AM PDT by nascarnation (Defeat Baraq 2012. Deport Baraq 2013)
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To: stocksthatgoup
Perhaps Bishop Dolan can do a baptism at the RNC and a Requiem at the DNC

I think I know who needs to be baptized ...

As for the DNC ... I think he needs to do an exorcism.

24 posted on 08/29/2012 10:13:56 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: oh8eleven
How can even one Catholic support ...

There is a significant population of folks who are technically Catholic, in the sense that a priest baptized them when they were babies, but who do not now and have not for a long time practiced their faith nor do they form their consciences according to the Gospel.

If you ask them their religion, they'll tell you "Catholic". That's about the extent of it. They don't believe it and they don't practice it.

There is a similar phenomenon among Jews.

25 posted on 08/29/2012 10:18:26 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: jmaroneps37

i still want to see the obamanation eat a BLT or an ham sandwich in public.

want to see if he is a Christian, as he purports to be.

blessings, bobo


26 posted on 08/29/2012 4:42:22 PM PDT by bobo1
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

“I think I’ll have to wait a little longer for NJ to swing red.”

Obama actually lost NJ among Catholics in 2008 by 55%. Like you said, still can’t imagine NJ going red, the last time was 20 years ago. The poll was done by American Life League, could be a case of Catholics saying the right thing, 27% support seems kind of out there. But even if it is a really only a fraction of that, like a quarter, that would be huge. There were ties or near ties in the Catholic vote in Az,Indiana, NH and the big one, Fla.

Freegards


27 posted on 08/29/2012 5:52:41 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: jmaroneps37

May be why Romney is down only 7 in New Jersey and doing well in Wisconsin.


28 posted on 09/11/2012 8:42:23 AM PDT by WOSG (REPEAL AND REPLACE OBAMA. He stole AmericaÂ’s promise!)
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