Posted on 08/30/2012 7:26:03 AM PDT by jmaroneps37
Something is happening among Black voters and if the Democrats aren’t scared they ought to be.
“three separate polls from three different states showing Obama with African American support in the 70s. … [plus] in last spring’s Arkansas Democrat presidential primary raises doubts about the actual level of support he has among African Americans.
Obama won the Arkansas primary by 58/42 but when the votes of the 29 “significantly” Black counties were tabulated his lead shrunk by 8 points. In ten counties with Black populations between 19% and 41% Obama actually lost 38/62! Not all of this can be dismissed with “Well it’s just a primary.”
May when Obama double crossed African Americans with …… “evolution” on support Gay “marriage” many in their community, especially the Black clergy, were stunned and outraged.
The feeling of betrayal was so palpable that two separate polls, one in North Carolina by a Democrat operation, and a second in Georgia by Gallup found 20% of Black voters intend to vote for Mitt Romney.
Now three months later a new poll of Black voters from Michigan – a completely different part of the country- shows not only has the anger and frustration over Obama’s “evolution” not subsided, it has actually strengthened slightly.
The poll shows Obama getting the support of just 76% of Black Michiganders with 23% expressing their intent to vote for Mitt Romney.
The Democrat cheerleading media can ignore these polls but a portion of the Black clergy are working to reduce Obama’s support in the African American community even further.
The Rev. William Owens who heads the Coalition of African American Pastors (CAAP) is the driving force behind a sustained campaign to hold Obama accountable for his insult to the Christian beliefs of millions of Black voters…
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SURPRISE!!!!! Romney will get FOUR black voters instead of three.
It would be just awesome if Romney gets a landslide win!
Obama will not get 95% black support in the election.
15% (Official, well over 20% unofficial) Black Unemployment will ensure that.
In 2008 many blacks who didn’t remotely support this guy idea wise voted for him, because of the historic nature of it. Now they recognize that mistake. Obama will still get an overwhelming portion like democrats always do, but it won’t be 95%.
There is a landslide coming up and down the ballot folks, Democrats are going to face a tidal wave, and by the time the dust settles, 2010 and 1994 will look like they were good days to be a democrat.
I hope and pray these polls are truly indicative of a shift of black votes from Obama. But, I have very serious doubts.
I believe that the vast — VAST — majority of blacks will follow Lovie Smith’s injunction to his fellow blacks: “Remember, you got to vote for Obama because he’s an African American.”
Of course, had John Harbaugh or Rex Ryan said that whites should vote for Romney because he’s white, they would have been fired within minutes for racism. As Smith should have been.
Obama will carry 96% of the black vote. All we can hope for is a lack of enthusiasm on their part resulting in a low turnout.
Coach, that wasn’t a CBS poll: it was done by BET of seven or eight swing states. I’ll believe ANY change in black support when I see it, but your numbers are interesting.
I am not so sure. I know some conservative black people that I am sure voted for Obama because he was "historic". I do not think they will vote for him this time.
There is more at work here then just that one issue IMO. Barky has taken the black vote for granted from day one. Truly he did not engender himself with the community with his support of fag marriage. Beyond that, black’s are getting killed financially and in his zeal to shore up as much hispanic vote as he can, he has pitted that support against a base he believed was 95% solid. Furthermore, those in the community who are not of the perpetual welfare mentallity are feeling the results of his failed economic policies the most and the bad news for his excellency is they also vote in larger percentage than the takers. It is not ridicules to project that he will get “only” 80% of the black vote because of both the reasons cited above: economics and his fag agenda. IMO, that is why the recent push from the media giving little exposure to the black attendees and speakers at the converntion. Even “the daily” news was pushing this slanted position yesterday.
So with a voter turnout of 12%, and losing say 15% of that number, HIS excellency may see an overall decline of 2% in actual votes among blacks. Hopefully it is enough to swing the election.
I don’t think for a second Romney will get much of the black vote, but I do think that a significant % of the 2008 black vote just won’t show this time.
NBC News/Wall Street Journal also shows Romney with 0% black support. That’s zero, absolutely no measurable support. The only thing that might happen is less blacks turn out to vote for Hussein. The more that stay home the better. The black vote is entirely hopeless. They vote based on how many freebies they can get from government and the GOP can never win that debate.
I don’t understand why there hasn’t been targetted efforts to use the gay marriage betrayal and the horrible economic record of Obama especially in relationship to the black community against him. The ad should be labeled “Betrayal” because that is exactly the best word to describe what Obama has done to his most loyal constituents. They voted for him and have not only been forgotten but have found their interests set aside for those of illegal immigrants and homosexuals. If someone can’t make a hard hitting ad with those components there is no hope for the GOP. They should get several black Republicans young black man, young black woman, older black man, older black woman speak directly to the camera about his betrayal. I know the GOP aren’t capable of this but they should be taking advantage of this wedge. What irony it would be to use the first Black President to begin the deconstruction of the Democrat black base. There hasn’t been a more perfect opportunity.
Thats OK..... at least 10 million illegal aliens will vote for Zero..
The black vote may go down to 80%...
And the Jewish vote to 90%...
Those poll numbers were ridiculous - even McCain managed to take 4% of black voters in ‘08.
Nope, I'm pretty sure Romney really will get near 0% of the black vote. Less blacks may vote, but the ones that turn out will be nearly 100% for Obama. At this point it's a loyalty thing, protecting one of "their own". Just take a look at cities like Detroit. No matter how bad it gets, they will still never vote Republican. In fact, the worse it gets the more it seems they harden in their resolve, refuse to admit they were wrong, and vote in even higher percentages for black Democrats.
Love the optimism!
Lovie Smith will be fired the day the Bears organization thinks he won’t deliver a Super Bowl, and not before.
BEAR DOWN!
If there is anyone who knows that not all black people are angels or even who they pretend to be, it’s other black people! His skin can’t fool them for all that long. He is NOT one of them. And not all black people are brainwashed.
NBC News/Wall Street Journal also shows Romney with 0% black support.
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they are lying, to help Obama.
that poll, puts pressure on blacks to “conform”,
as they are being told, others do.
...that poll, is simply to keep them from leaving the democrat “plantation”.
MANY blacks are not on welfare, hard-working, and CHRISTIAN.
many of them, are against abortion, and gay marriage.
the DNC knows they are losing them.
the NBC poll, is fake.
It’s not simply optimism, its mathematics.
Blue Dog Democrats are lost to Obama, as are Catholics.. Obviously there is overlap in those 2 groups, but you don’t lose catholics 3-1, or afford to lose large numbers of Blue Dogs and expect to carry the rust belt.
Lets not even get into the fact he’s down 10-15 points among independents.
This election isn’t going to be close folks.. Fight tooth and nail like it is, but the math doesn’t add up.
More than one poll has shown nearly 20% of DEMOCRATS are going to vote for Romney! You can’t win elections when you are losing 1/5 of your base. You don’t win elections by campaigning on class warfare! At least not a national election... That’s what leftists to gin up their base, they don’t win the general by doing it... yet that’s still what Obama is doing and its NEARLY SEPTEMBER!
All Romney has to do tonight, is prove to the overwhelming majority of American’s that he’s not some extremist nutball, which while Romney is many things, that he is not. Obama and his ilk are trying their best to paint him as one, but it won’t work. Just come out and show he’s a not some boogie man, and he will do that fine, and once he does that, and as the bulk of the non political junkie population gets to see and know him, his polling numbers will swell.
I truly think Obama has a popular vote MAX of 42-43%, and very likely could wind up sub 40 on election day, a feat no sitting president has managed during re-election since Hoover in 1932.
I fully expect independents to break somewhere around 2-1 for Romney on election day. Obama doesn’t have any prayer for re-election. This “its a squeaker” is what you get when people who have lived in Washington far too long, and have no idea whats going on on the ground, try to analyze the situation.
Rust Belt is DEAD to Obama, no way in hell he’s going to get, IA, IN, WI or OH... PA and MI are battleground and if Romney brings the fight to those states I fully expect Obama to lose them as well. MN and IL are the only remotely safe states for Obama in the rust belt. The south is ABSOLUTELY lost for Obama, he has no chance at FL or NC.. VA is the only possibility and that’s only if the DC contingent in N VA can overwhelm the rest of the state, and given the motivation and excitement of the anti-Obama crowds I don’t think it will happen.
EC may not reflect how badly Obama will lose the popular vote, but it is going to be a routing, and its going to go up and down the ballot, not just the White House Race.
Remember, most democratic senators up for election this term haven’t faced the electorate since voting for Obamacare... you think they won’t pay a price for that?
I know a number of church attending black people who are absolutely, unequivocably opposed to the idea of gay marriage. And some other very hard-working people who, all things being equal, would rather have a job.
Just about all of them voted for Obama out of a sense of pride and relief that a black man could be elected POTUS less than 50 years after Jim Crow ended. But many of them are not impressed with his performance. It’s a small number who will change their vote to be sure, but significant.
And many blacks who are on Welfare don’t want to be!!! That’s the key!!
This racist view that all blacks are lazy and just taking the dole is absolutely wrong.
Yes a higher percentage of the black population is on assistance, but don’t think for one minute that all blacks are, or that all blacks that are want to be!
15% official and 20%+ unofficial black unemployment will ensure Obama isn’t going to see anywhere near the support he got last time. Hell last time McCain got something like 4% of the black vote, to come out with poll showing Romney will get 0% of the black vote is NONSENSE.
The big question is ... will they show up at the polls? Or will Obama still get 95% of the ones that do vote?
Your comment makes a good point. Yet, after listening to Artur Davis Tuesday night, I am beginning to think, as well as hope, that many of those who--like Davis--supported Obama because he was "one of them" are now realizing that the "halo" the LSM was so wont to put around Obama's head has slipped so far down that it has become nothing more than "shackle"!
Davis spoke--eloquently and passionately--to this issue; I really do hope and pray Davis' message has not fallen on as many deaf ears as the Vice-Panderer and his arrogant ilk hope--if not pray--it has.
That may be true, but it's not just black voters that Obama needs to keep. He may lose 10% of the black vote, which may not, by itself, be significant. But if Obama loses those, in addition to the votes of those white independents who felt that 'white guilt' last time, but have soured on him in the past couple of years, he's toast.
the RNC needs to put an add together and run it next week during the DNC replaying Obamas speeech to blacks to get out of their house coats and slippers.
Yup, there are a lot of good black folks out there. In many areas the black community is, as you point out, VERY socially conservative (against abortion and gay marriage). They're still going to vote for Obama though. Identity politics is very, very powerful. They've got it in their heads that Republicans don't like them, don't care about them, don't want to help them, etc. You and I know it isn't true, but they believe it. The power of the media's propaganda is truly that strong.
Sorry, I wish you were right. I really, really do. But you're not. Blacks are going to vote overwhelmingly for Obama and Romney will be lucky to get even 1%-2% of the black vote. Less blacks will likely vote this time, but the ones that day are going to vote probably 98%-99% for Obama. It is what it is.
Thanks, Milagro. It’s good to hear from you, too. I sure hope you’re right in your analysis. I didn’t get to watch Davis’ speech because I’m on Roatan Island working non-stop on a magazine-writing assignment. So, thank God for FR — the only place I turn for news and views when I’m on the road!
It’s all about that 3-letter word - J O B S.
“J O B S” ... thats 4 letters. :)
“J O B S” ... thats 4 letters. :)
Tell that to Biden!
Dunno.
I think Obama will still get 95% of the black vote, but that there will be fewer blacks voting.
In any case, the ‘Pubbies would be idiots to count on ANY of the black vote, or to try pandering to them...
I’m really sick and tired of your superficial responses that are nothing more than uninformed opinion, without any supporting data or reasoning!
MAJOR SARCASM ALERT.
Thanks for your thoughts. What did you think of Romney’s speech, and how is it being perceived/received?
My personal thoughts about Romney’s speech, it was good, not great.. It did what it needed to do, but it certainly was not the best acceptance speach I’ve ever heard.
However, the entire convention, nearly all the speeches have articulated and pointed out the growing and undeniable gulf between this administration and what they believe, and what american was founded upon.
I know this isn’t popular with some here, but of the speeches I heard and watch, Condi’s stole the show, it was a complete lambasting and repudiation of this administration and its failings and the dangers those failings create. It also articulated the promise and uniqueness of america and contrasted it harshly with what this administration stands for. Sadly it was mostly about foreign policy which most voters ignore.
This was without question the BEST line of any speech given:
“And on a personal note, a little girl grows up in Jim Crow
Birmingham. The segregated city of the south where her parents cannot take her to a movie theater or to restaurants, but they have convinced that even if she cannot have it hamburger at Woolworths, she can be the president of the United States if she wanted to be, and she becomes the secretary of state”
Now, don’t get me wrong, I enjoyed all the prime time speeches. I think Rubio did a fine job, and Ryan did a great job too.
As to Romney’s, I think he did what he needed to do, he showed he was a serious candidate, not the extremist that the left tries to paint him as. I don’t think he elicited the emotional side of the crowd as much as he could have, which is basically saying he didn’t complete the sale in terms of really firing up folks for him, but I don’t think Romney will ever be able to do that. He’s too controlled and methodical for that. There were clearly spots of emotion in his speech, but he’s not going to get or evoke a large emotional response. He did however do what he needed to do.
I’ve always said, and always believed, the election of this emotion is to get rid of Obama, Romney will not be the inspiration.. Its just now who he is. Unlike the pundit’s claim he needs to turn the anti-obama into the pro-romney, I don’t think so. It would be nice if he could, but the reality is, the ANTI-OBAMA is so eviceral that very vew Politicians in the course of US history could turn that pro them as the main argument... Romney is capable, but he’s not that level of a politician, in our entire nations history, I don’t think more than a handful could have pulled that high bar off. However, like I said, unlike some pundits I don’t think he had to.
All he had to do is show, I’m serious, I understand the problems, and I’m not some crazy madman that the Obama camp wants to portray me as.
As for red meat, honestly I thought he entire convention was far more toned down than it could have been given the absolute disaster this administration has been. I think more red meat might have gotten more emotion, but I also understand that it coudl have also turned off voters who voted for Obama last time but now know it was a mistake.
Lets face it, most people are reluctant to admit their mistakes, even when they are in front of them, and don’t like them rubbed in their faces, this group is who most of the prime time was aimed at, and when viewed through that window it did a good job.
I think you will see a polling move toward romney as those in that group basically were pitched, its Okay, you made a mistake... we understand, now its time to fix it instead of continuing it. OF course that depends on how many people were watching, but I would expect numbers to continue to track up in the polls in romney’s favor, from here to election day.. with the only forseeable reverse a brief one after Clinton delivers his speech. I am sure Clinton Nastalgia might give Obama a brief bounce, but it won’t last. Certainly Obama’s speech won’t move him any.
Well said. Thanks!
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