Skip to comments.Balkanization of Former U.S. Territory? Disaster.
Posted on 08/30/2012 10:37:54 AM PDT by Kartographer
I have received many emails and have heard much talk about the U.S. breaking into two countries ‐ one Constitutional Republic built on a foundation of Judeo-Christian principles consisting of the Mountain, Central and Southern states (essentially a Second American Republic), and a Marxist‐Socialist‐Atheist confederation consisting of the Pacific Coast states, the Upper Midwest (IL, MI, WI) and the New England states.
While it is sorely tempting to think about drop‐kicking the liberal states and going our separate ways, the reality is that this would be a MASSIVE mistake, and would almost certainly set in motion a chain of events that would end Western Civilization.
If this sort of "divorce" were to happen, we all know that the Second American Republic (SAR) would thrive while the Marxist Confederation (MC) would quickly fail catastrophically. When that failure happened, the MC would come begging to the SAR to bail it out. Now, you might be thinking, "Screw 'em. They made their bed, now they can sleep in it. They'll get no help from us." That's a knee‐jerk reaction, and it would be the WRONG reaction. Why? Because if the SAR turned down the MC's requests for help, who would be the ONLY other nation capable of bailing out the MC? China. And as we should all understand with crystal clarity, the liberals in the MC states would be, without question, idiotic enough to actually INVITE the Chinese to take over their economy, and eventually their land ‐ purely as a "peacekeeping force" to control the food shortage riots, you understand. So, in order to stave off Chinese involvement in North America, we would have to bail the MC out anyway. It's a textbook "damned if you do, damned if you don't."
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Part of the problem with fantasies like this is that they always start with the false premise of liberal vs conservative states which for the most part don’t exist outside of a handful of east and west coast states. Even states like NY and CA have considerable conservative populations.
Rural vs urban is far more realistic but there are some conservatives in town as well...I have no clue as to why.
Here it is by county in 2004
The further miss is the vast majority of rifles and battlefield training exists in the conservative population. This means that should the “divorce” result in a civil war, the liberal urban population centers would be limited to defensive actions and unable to strike out against the rural population.
Add to that the food production is outside of the urban area and you end up with a very nasty picture of an old castle, bottled up with a lot of people, little food stores and only limited ability to project force. Starvation and rampant infectious diseases would be the likely result. I doubt a city stronghold would be able to last more than two years. These would rapidly devolve into tribal communities instead of a cohesive bond.
The only possible alternative for the liberal urban centers would be to try and gain control of or support from the military via executive powers or work to bring in a “peace keeping” force to protect them from the conservative rural community.
Working in their favor (against a rural attack) would be the fact that very few conservatives desire to take over a city population that they then would have to feed house and supervise. The only advantage of that kind of take over would be the re-introduction of a (slave) labor force via war prisoners working on the farms to improve production. There are very little if any resources that would actually be needed by the rural communities.
Yup. Never give up territory. I live in Michigan where less than 10 of our 83 counties consistently vote democrat and most of those are college towns. You also need to take into account things of strategic value. Again I can think of several reasons you folks wouldn’t want to lose Michigan with the world’s purist copper and an ocean of natural gas underfoot.
Texas obviously has oil, range and farmland among other things.
We need to be a nation but we need to be free to do it.
I think the New England States might split into a free part and blue parts... New Hampshire would not be with the SOCIALISTS, the NORTHEAST KINGDOM (a part of Vermont) hates Socialism, Most of Maine (unfortunately the populated areas are blue...the rest is red) and the rural parts of CT.
True, not as CONSERVATIVE as the USA in general, but they would hate being lumped in with MARXISTS!!
I don’t think the Chinese would have any interest in coming over here and taking over our economy or country, even just the liberal half of it. They have plenty of land of their own to lord over, and their only real aspirations outside of that are regional hegemony.
More likely, the commie half of the country would try to start a war and invade the other half, like commies always do.