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Reno Air Racing Prep - 2012
The Pylon Place ^ | September 3, 2012 | Marilyn Dash

Posted on 09/03/2012 5:06:26 PM PDT by EveningStar

Keeping up with the news surrounding the Reno Air Races this year has been exhausting. Racers and fans alike have so many questions, i.e., are we racing, what changes will we see, who will be there, who won’t, will the fans notice any changes? These are all good questions. I hope that I have, through this column, helped everyone understand what the process has been following the horrific event of September 16, 2011. I have tried to listen to the questions the fans have been asking and answer them here.

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TOPICS: Outdoors; Sports
KEYWORDS: aviation; marilyndash; nevada; reno; renoairraces
If you've attended the Reno Air Races, AKA National Championship Air Races, you know what it's like. If you haven't, you're in for a treat. :)

The writer herself is a regular annual competitor in the biplane class.

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Wikipedia article

1 posted on 09/03/2012 5:06:35 PM PDT by EveningStar
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2 posted on 09/03/2012 5:08:01 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

I used to work at a fixed base operation in Reno. During the air races it was great because you got to see so many vintage planes up close. I got to fuel up P-51’s, P-38’s, B-25, B-17’s. Very cool. Crowded, but cool.

Watching the WW2 planes take off was the greatest. I still say the P-51 is the most beautiful fighter plane ever built (from WW2 era, that is).


3 posted on 09/03/2012 5:11:09 PM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: rusty schucklefurd

And no other engine sounds like it, neither.


4 posted on 09/03/2012 5:15:33 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: rusty schucklefurd

And no other engine sounds like it, neither.


5 posted on 09/03/2012 5:15:47 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: rusty schucklefurd
I still say the P-51 is the most beautiful fighter plane ever built (from WW2 era, that is). yup....the best sounding as well!!!! Gotta love that engine noise when it fly's...nothing else like it, well a Shelby cobra!
6 posted on 09/03/2012 5:17:23 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 0bie don' t eatl my dog!)
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To: ColdOne

Was that the plane that crashed into the crowd last year?


7 posted on 09/03/2012 5:18:49 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: EveningStar

How in the world can this be put on after last year? I’m amazed. The lawsuits must have been ruinous, and there were people injured as well as killed.


8 posted on 09/03/2012 5:21:20 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle; ColdOne
Was that the plane that crashed into the crowd last year?

A variant. P-51D to be exact.

2011 Reno Air Races crash

9 posted on 09/03/2012 5:49:57 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Mamzelle; ColdOne

The P-51D that crashed was heavily modified.


10 posted on 09/03/2012 5:52:32 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Nine people dead, 50 injured, and the show goes on? Are the owners shielded from liability some way?


11 posted on 09/03/2012 6:34:08 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: EveningStar
More details from a recent article. http://news.yahoo.com/plane-modifications-led-reno-air-show-crash-killed-173810740.htmlM

11 dead total, 64 injured

I don't get it...how in the world can they organize another race?

12 posted on 09/03/2012 6:40:15 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle

Because the show must go on!


13 posted on 09/03/2012 7:00:01 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Mamzelle

I think you may be correct. It had modifications I think.


14 posted on 09/03/2012 7:16:30 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 0bie don' t eatl my dog!)
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To: Mamzelle
11 dead total, 64 injured

I don't get it...how in the world can they organize another race?

Gee: I've been saying that about Formula 1, Sprint Cars, Indianapolis, NASCAR, Bussing kids to football games, fraternity hazing, other than well-done hamburgers, skate boards, and training for marathons for years but no one listened!

Thanks for speaking up for adrenalin control, it could be DC's next big program.

15 posted on 09/03/2012 7:28:29 PM PDT by norton
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To: EveningStar

I wish I could afford to go, four years ago I could, now I cannot.If it wasn’t for a thread like this I would have forgotten completely, hopefully there will be many pics and comments from those who did go.

last time I went I had a pit pass, thats the way to go.


16 posted on 09/03/2012 7:37:24 PM PDT by Eye of Unk (OPSEC)
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To: knarf

re: “And no other engine sounds like it, neither.”

Yes! Absolutely. The sound of that engine when it’s taking off is thrilling.


17 posted on 09/03/2012 8:07:23 PM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: norton

Gee, not to mention shuttle flights, swimming pools, doctor visits, trains, planes, buses, gun free zones.

...and we could go on forever.


18 posted on 09/04/2012 5:07:53 AM PDT by wita
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To: ColdOne
From what I read and understand, the "heroic" Jimmy Leeward put many modifications on the plane, which went unreported to the race organizers and the plane also went *without inspection* by the race organizers...or inspected incompetently.

Leeward was a cheat, IMO, a dangerous hot-dogging cheat. Why no comment on this rotten, selfish old fart here, who ultimately killed so many people, and left others with life-changing injury?

This is ridiculous.

I suppose it's the old pilot culture, "my passion is flight and my noisy flying toys, and get out of my way, who cares who dies? My passion, my agenda... "

These hot-doggers are super-rich, and buy their toys with corporation LLCs to avoid lawsuits when they kill people on the ground.

They disgust me. Shame on them. I hope the lawyers find a way around the LLCs.

19 posted on 09/04/2012 7:55:20 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: EveningStar

Go Ruby!

Go Bear!

Go Egg! (Questairs rock!)

I’ll be there next Wednesday. Box A-81...can’t wait!


20 posted on 09/04/2012 11:35:06 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: knarf
And no other engine sounds like it, neither.

Rare Bear is the noise to beat! It sounded so AWESOME with that 3 blader on it...cool calm morning heat coming down the Valley of Speed you could hear that Thrum...Thrum...Thrum in the growl of the engine all the way in the grandstands. I get goosebumps thinking about it.

The 4 blader doesn't sound quite so threatening but the plane rounds pylons faster with it so you gotta do what you gotta do.

I miss Lyle, I will miss John Penney. Go Stewart GO! Go Bear! Woot!

21 posted on 09/04/2012 11:40:20 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Mamzelle
You should go one year

Maybe you wouldn't be so cynical.

22 posted on 09/04/2012 11:42:48 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Mamzelle
These hot-doggers are super-rich, and buy their toys with corporation LLCs to avoid lawsuits when they kill people on the ground.

They disgust me. Shame on them. I hope the lawyers find a way around the LLCs.

How is this different from NHRA or NASCAR or any other professional race venue?

Lawsuits are ongoing if that makes you happy. If the pilot carried liability alone, who would be getting sued? The pilot is dead.

You sound like a class warfare, nanny stater.

23 posted on 09/04/2012 11:49:13 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: EveningStar

BTTT


24 posted on 09/04/2012 11:56:55 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: EveningStar
Me and Mrs. Al baby hangin wiff Bill "Tiger' Destefani Go Strega !!!
25 posted on 09/04/2012 12:28:20 PM PDT by al baby (“If Barack Obama has a Harvard law degree, he didn’t earn that. Somebody else made that happen.”)
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To: hattend
I've seen showier flights in much bigger aircraft>

Is there even any discussion of the horrible thing that Jimmy Leeward did in altering his plane, to glorify himself in speed in front of a crowd--without alerting whoever is in charge of the races (is anyone in charge? Any grownups, or just adolescent boys with cockpit fantasies?).

Any responsibility for making this horrid person into a hero all these years?

I'll bet there aren't going to be a lot of bragging rights about photos next to the Galloping Ghost. Just everyone keeping quiet.

And how about whoever was in charge, their responsibility to oversee these very zealous and immature racers?

26 posted on 09/04/2012 12:50:40 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle

Are you Jimmy Leeward’s ex-wife? Or any pilot’s “Negative Nelly” from years past?

Sheesh, you have a lot of hostile opinions about an event and people you have never seen or met.

Or have you been to Reno? What year? What happened to you there to make you so cynical?


27 posted on 09/04/2012 1:28:33 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: al baby
Go Bear!

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Champagne before the Gold Final!

We made the next year's Air Race program with this picture. I can post post "Bear Wins" festivities when I get back to my home computer.

That's Cloud Dancer on the placard.

28 posted on 09/04/2012 1:41:01 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: hattend
I dare to get between pilots and his perquisites fairly regularly. At their worst, they have a nasty streak. Eventually they can't control themselves and start using sexist and obscene language. The ex-wife thing supposed to scare me off?

Shame on those who are holding this race again without dealing first with the people killed and hurt, and their families!!

And I happen to know someone who, last year, mourned over the Reno Air Race not because of the calamity and the 11 dead people and 64 injured, some devastatingly, but because he thought it would spoil his fun this year. Your typical flyboy, at his graceless and selfish worst. I got to hear about Jimmy Leeward and his glories...though now that he's been shown to be the deliberate cause of all the carnage suddenly he never existed.

No coming to terms, no facing the music.

I didn't think after the disaster that it would dare run again, not after the officials showed themselves to be such reckless fools, but here we are.

29 posted on 09/04/2012 1:41:42 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle
Shame on those who are holding this race again without dealing first with the people killed and hurt, and their families!!

And you know this how?

One of the victims is coming back this year...I'll say "Hi" to him for you. He is a double amputee.

I'll provide a post race update.

30 posted on 09/04/2012 1:50:03 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: hattend
Google up the lawsuits--I have. Being Reno, there's all kind of help for the race from Harry Reid types and the gambling crowd. Congratulations.
31 posted on 09/04/2012 1:56:28 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle
Google up the lawsuits

Send me some links. You seem to have already done the legwork.

32 posted on 09/04/2012 2:02:54 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: hattend
http://www.reid.senate.gov/newsroom/pr_052212_renoairraces.cfm

If Harry Reid makes it so, you can be pretty sure the Mob is not far away. So that's the company you're keeping. Then go back to the previous link I offered, quite informational, which will inspire further keyword searches.

33 posted on 09/04/2012 2:12:27 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle

I meant the links about how the victims and their families have been ignored by RARA.

Harry Reid making a statement about an event in his state being able to continue is hardly an indictment.

Even air race fans have been to victims’ houses and helped them out...all reported for the world to see on Facebook.


34 posted on 09/04/2012 2:21:30 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: hattend

I’m sure individuals have been kind to individuals. As kind as you’re being to the wholesome and handsome Honest Harry Reid.


35 posted on 09/04/2012 2:58:29 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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36 posted on 09/05/2012 3:40:44 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

WooHoo!

Go Marilyn and Ruby!

Are you out at Stead?


37 posted on 09/05/2012 4:44:38 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: hattend

No. I can’t make it. :(


38 posted on 09/05/2012 5:24:55 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: hattend

Do it yourself! If You know how too!


39 posted on 09/12/2012 4:58:12 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD SAVE OUR AMERICA from ALLAH and his Prophet, HUSSEIN OBAMA!!)
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