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Jewish voters thinking twice about voting for Obama
Coach is Right ^ | 8/7/2012 | Emma Karlin

Posted on 09/07/2012 10:16:13 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax

Ira Foreman has a tough job nobody could imagine would be tough just four years ago. Foreman is the man in charge of getting Jewish voters to the polls to support the re-election of Barack Obama. This was supposed to be a snap job. Foreman should be living it up in Charlotte knowing he had his people lined up and ready to go. But things have gone from bad to worse in the relationship between the Democrats and the Jewish voter.

At this point just two months from Election Day the support Jews will give Obama is not at all a sure thing. Those saying they will vote for him have dwindled from 78% in 2008 to only 64% at best today.

While in and of itself the Jewish vote is not very large, it has been a consistent “canary in a coal mine” indicator of trouble for Democrat presidential candidates. Since 1916 no Democrat has ever lost the Jewish vote but when the percent of support from Jews goes down below 68% no Democrat has won.

On top of all of the in-your-face insults to those who cherish Israel...

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TOPICS: Government; Politics; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: 2012election; barackobama; bho2012; jewishvote; jewishvoters; jews
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1 posted on 09/07/2012 10:16:17 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: Oldpuppymax

It is beyond me, why even a SINGLE Jewish voter would even consider voting for the muzzie, who hates Jews and Israel! After seeing the support he has from Jews, I’m certain there must’ve been Jews who were Hitler supporters. You vote for him at your own peril!


2 posted on 09/07/2012 10:20:03 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ("Get that evil, foreign, muslim, usurping bastard out of MY White House!" FUBO GTFO!)
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To: Oldpuppymax

I hope you’re right, but every time I think the Jews couldn’t possibly vote democrat again, they do- for soem unknown reason- I can understand the concept of ‘keep your enemies even closer’ saying, but my goodness- how much abuse msut the jews take before they realize that keeping hte left close to them is never going to be advantageous to htem?


3 posted on 09/07/2012 10:20:16 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Oldpuppymax

How any jewish person could vote Democrat is beyond me...

Except that so many of them are lawyers INSIDE washington and benefitting from it


4 posted on 09/07/2012 10:21:21 AM PDT by Mr. K ("The spread of evil is the symptom of a vacuum [of good]")
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To: Oldpuppymax

...and they miss the money too. This issue might be hurting the Dems even more as Romney has been out-raising BHO in the last few months.


5 posted on 09/07/2012 10:23:08 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: CottShop

I hear you...but this year is different. The clearest indicator is the amount of money from big Jewish donors to the Dems has fallen precipitously.


6 posted on 09/07/2012 10:25:07 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Mr. K

Most of them are liberal first and Jewish second.


7 posted on 09/07/2012 10:25:58 AM PDT by tractorman (I never miss a chance to tweak a liberal.)
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To: Oldpuppymax
Jewish voters thinking twice about voting for Obama

As opposed to "Black Voters Thinking About Voting for Obama Twice."

8 posted on 09/07/2012 10:29:31 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

I am pretty sure it’s a mistake to count on American Jews voting against any Liberal, EVER!


9 posted on 09/07/2012 10:30:12 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: tractorman

most of them are liberal first and liberal second, American third, nothing fourth, and Jewish fifth (if at all).


10 posted on 09/07/2012 10:31:33 AM PDT by faithhopecharity
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To: Oldpuppymax
Those saying they will vote for him have dwindled from 78% in 2008 to only 64% at best today.

So what happened in the last 4 years to make so many of them racists? /s

11 posted on 09/07/2012 10:33:35 AM PDT by kevkrom (Those in a rush to trample the Constitution seem to forget that it is the source of their authority.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Jewish voters thinking twice about voting for Obama

Yep, they’ll vote for him once in New York, then once for him in Florida.


12 posted on 09/07/2012 10:34:06 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: Pharmboy

[[The clearest indicator is the amount of money from big Jewish donors to the Dems has fallen precipitously]]

Oh I hope so- My fear though is that they are goign to once again get caught up i nthe hype and they do NOT deserve the treatment they get fro mthe left- They have been the most persecuted people in the world, and the left continues to persecute them, only in a less obvious manner- and I can’t understand the Jews not seeign that? But the decline in contributions is an encouraging sign- I really hope that it’s a sign of things to come in regards to the Jews finally recognizing how badly the left really treats them


13 posted on 09/07/2012 10:41:44 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Just like most Americans, the ‘typical American Jew’ isn’t even aware of what 0bama REALLY is or what’s he’s REALLY done.. They buy into the false media narrative because they don’t care to dig deeper into politics. One look at “2016; Obama’s America” and they’d quickly change their minds, however.


14 posted on 09/07/2012 10:53:41 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Oldpuppymax
Indeed, a LOT of people who supported Obama in 2008--including the mainstream media--have hit the realization that they've been sold a "bill of goods" and he's not done the things that could a really revived the US economy, namely streamlining the size and scope of government and fixing the economy-inhibiting income tax code. In short, the thrill is gone.
15 posted on 09/07/2012 11:03:52 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Oldpuppymax

If they are still thinking about it, they are too stupid to vote.


16 posted on 09/07/2012 11:04:57 AM PDT by mancini
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To: CottShop
I hope you’re right, but every time I think the Jews couldn’t possibly vote democrat again, they do- for soem unknown reason- I can understand the concept of ‘keep your enemies even closer’ saying, but my goodness- how much abuse msut the jews take before they realize that keeping hte left close to them is never going to be advantageous to htem?

You have to keep in mind that Jewish Democrats are socialists first, and Jewish second.

17 posted on 09/07/2012 11:08:08 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: kevkrom; Oldpuppymax
Those Jews saying they will vote for him have dwindled from 78% in 2008 to only 64% at best today.

So, show me. This is Republicans "whistling past the graveyard" ...again. File under "Blacks Reconsidering Obama Vote."

Besides, any slight losses can easily be made up my fraudulent non-citizen registrations. The Canchez sisters can show'em how it's done.

18 posted on 09/07/2012 11:10:36 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Sheriff's Joe's findings: What Obama got from Hawaii, ain't what he showed us.)
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To: Oldpuppymax
Why do they need to think about it TWICE. Once would have been enough for me. This guy is the most anti-Israel, anti-Jewish president we have ever had and JEWS helped put him into office. How can you sit there an vote for a guy who supports a religion and countries that seek to kill you simply because you carry the name Jew. Not that you may believe in the Jewish God, but that simply you are a Jew. Yet, they hungerly vote for him. Stupid is as stupid does I guess. But it makes no sense to me. This guy is no Christian. If anything, he is a Marxist and Humanist. He believes in the natural man, a citizen of the world. He is not an American. He has no American values. He is a 3d world born and raised Muslin loser. Period. End of rant.
19 posted on 09/07/2012 11:12:09 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (The Scriptures clearly tell us we are in the last days, the end times. Christ is the only answer!)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

I think it’s obvious why most American Jews still vote for the Democratic Party. The average secular American Jew could give a rat’s arse about Israel. They care more about social liberalism much more than they do about a country on the other side of the world. They are more paranoid and afraid of some imaginary white Christian brotherhood who’s going to knock on their door and drag them to a death camp.


20 posted on 09/07/2012 11:12:24 AM PDT by skinndogNN
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To: Oldpuppymax

If Jewish voters are thinking ONCE about voting for Obama, they aren’t thinking!


21 posted on 09/07/2012 11:14:33 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

ROTFLMAO about dreaming of the Jewish vote. I think they secretly hate Israel.


22 posted on 09/07/2012 11:16:40 AM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (We're an Oligrachy...Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: CottShop
Books have been written about this...


23 posted on 09/07/2012 11:17:01 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

My Jewish friends are mostly agnostic and deeply into academia. Not normally strong areas in the GOP.

This is why the GOP has been trying to concentrate on fiscal conservative vs socal conservative.
I’m not sure if its going to work but its a worthwhile effort to get the Jewish community thinking something other than the DNC.


24 posted on 09/07/2012 11:20:00 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: Oldpuppymax

Since Jewish-Americans no longer live as they used to —that is, almost exclusively in solidly Jewish neighborhoods — it’s impossible to accurately predict the Jewish vote.

Jewish liberal Democrats with their 600 Rabbis for Obama tend to congregate together, so are easily counted by polling organizations, but Jewish Republicans like me who have escaped such craziness are uncountable, and I’m sure there are many, many like me.

In any case, the Jewish vote is too small to worry about. It’s the Jewish money, or lack thereof, that the Democrats need to obsess about, and if it’s not coming in adequately, the anti-Jerusalem party is doomed.


25 posted on 09/07/2012 11:38:29 AM PDT by Bluestocking
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To: The Sons of Liberty

I’m certain there must’ve been Jews who were Hitler supporters
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Goerge Soros, the man who now supports HUSSEIN Obama.


26 posted on 09/07/2012 11:46:54 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Oldpuppymax

Here is Tucson/Oro Valley AZ, we have a Jewish conservative talk show host on the weekends, who even does an hour on guns, a Jewish week day talk show host, who is also young, one of the biggest of the big wigs of the Republican party is Jewish, and in my district the nominee of state representative is Jewish. Must be the dry desert air.


27 posted on 09/07/2012 3:54:27 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: Oldpuppymax

If they have to think twice, then there is very little thinking going on in the first place.


28 posted on 09/07/2012 4:25:44 PM PDT by itsahoot (Write in Palin in 2012, That is 1 vote for Palin, 0 votes for Romney and Zer0 votes for Obama.)
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To: tractorman

Most of them are liberal first and Jewish second.


I think it is that leftist Jews are actually Marxists first and thereby, don’t beleive in God anymore. They hate Jews as they hate Christians because they worship God. They are afraid of Muslims and find their hatreds in common and of use to “progress” for the time being.

Jewish Americans can’t afford to follow these self annointed tribal leaders/activists anymore. They have made so much progress, they are cutting to the bone now. For Israel, it might be too late.


29 posted on 09/07/2012 6:07:38 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Bluestocking
Jewish Republicans like me who have escaped such craziness are uncountable,....

So, make some more noise.

the Jewish vote is too small to worry about.

The Jewish vote is huge where it counts. Call me when NYC gets a couple of Republican Congressmen, (not counting Staten Island!) It's not how many there are, it's where they vote. E.G., Blacks are about 12% of the population, yet their densely packed urban districts throw many a state into the wrong column.

30 posted on 09/08/2012 2:16:05 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Sheriff's Joe's findings: What Obama got from Hawaii, ain't what he showed us.)
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To: Oldpuppymax
Jewish voters thinking twice about voting for Obama

Yeah sure they are.. The best we can hope for is that maybe a few stay home.

31 posted on 09/08/2012 2:17:59 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Kenny Bunk

Jews are as much as 25% of only 4 or so Congressional Districts, and as much as 10% in less than 25 CDs. And those CDs are almost all overwhelmingly Democrat anyway.

Florida is likely the only state where a realistic change in Jewish voting would make a difference.


32 posted on 09/08/2012 2:52:14 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto
Don't get me started.

Florida is the home of the "Double Dipper" voter, and they make a giant foutaise and mockery of the vote. They vote in in NooYawk, or Joisey by absentee, and in Floriduh, too. We are also starting to see this in Maine. Although by November, most of the Massholes have already left for home ... or Floriduh!~

Of course, this disgusting perversion of the electoral process is a multi-ethnic phenomenon.

33 posted on 09/08/2012 7:55:57 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Sheriff's Joe's findings: What Obama got from Hawaii, ain't what he showed us.)
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34 posted on 09/11/2012 3:39:29 PM PDT by SJackson (I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people people die of natural causes)
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To: Pharmboy
...the amount of money from big Jewish donors to the Dems has fallen precipitously.

I hope you are correct about that, but what is your source?

35 posted on 09/11/2012 5:07:23 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Oldpuppymax; SJackson; CaptainAmiigaf; Netz; kabumpo; Impala64ssa; LRoggy; Ezekiel; Blennos; ...
Ira Foreman has a tough job nobody could imagine would be tough just four years ago. Foreman is the man in charge of getting Jewish voters to the polls to support the re-election of Barack Obama.

I can't help but get a sense of Schadenfreude regarding Foreman and his "tough job." He certainly deserves it as the head honcho of the National Jewish Democratic Council for many years. They've shilled for the 'Rats with reckless lies in defiance of Jewish interests here and in Israel consistently.

You can take today's report of Obama snubbing an emergency meeting with PM Netanyahu as adding more insult to injury. The relationship between the two, contrary to Jewish 'Rat propaganda, is testy. And it could have been predicted even before the 2008 election based upon the anti-Israel and pro-Palestinian individuals who were Obama's pals and whom Democrats like Foreman and Robert Wexler would either not discuss or try to explain away.

I will guarantee you that Americans abroad in Israel will vote at least 75% for Romney vs. Obama, and (hypothetically) if all Israelis could vote in the American election, Romney might get 80-90% of their vote.

36 posted on 09/11/2012 6:00:15 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93
I have read several pieces about this. Here is one from last year; this quote "Anecdotal evidence and quotes from fundraisers about declining [Jewish] enthusiasm for the president are everywhere." is from here.; and this quote "…some of the Jewish givers to the Romney super PAC have a history of giving to Democratic candidates and Democratic Party groups." is from here.

These represent only a few sources; there have been other articles about Wall St money not going to Obama as much as in '08 (and a significant portion of that is Jewish money). The Washington Post estimated that 60% of the money that comes to Dems is from Jews (I know--it sounds hard to believe), but put all this together with the fact that Obama has been having trouble raising money and the conclusion is inescapable: his Jewish donor funds ain't what they used to be. And frankly, I'm surprised that someone as involved in this area as much as you are would not have seen some of this material or pieces like this.

37 posted on 09/11/2012 6:02:16 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: justiceseeker93; Pharmboy
...the amount of money from big Jewish donors to the Dems has fallen precipitously.

I hope you are correct about that, but what is your source?

This is anecdotal, but I always check on the political donations in my (heavily Jewish zipcode) and my neighbors in particular. Reliable Dem donors, including those who gave to Obama last time, are keeping their wallets closed. A few have switched sides and given to Romney.

Also, I just saw this evening a few lawn signs that say, Obama? Oy vey! I hope they catch on!

38 posted on 09/11/2012 6:05:53 PM PDT by old and tired
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To: old and tired
What is NOT anecdotal is the fact that Obama fell down big time in June and July fundraising, whereas much of the democrap money comes from Jews . What is NOT anecdotal is Jewish donors who gave to Obama in 2008 now supporting Romney super pacs.

The latest plea from Moochelle is for people to forego one dinner out and send them the money. These people are one click away from asking kids for their lunch money.

39 posted on 09/11/2012 6:13:22 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

The more Orthodox Jews tend to be more conservative politically. They tend to be pro-life and anti-gay marriage, among other things. I was involved with the Young Republicans back in 1980. The night before the election we set up a “goon squad” plastering the Hasidic areas of Monsey and New Square with Reagan posters with his name spelled out in Hebrew(I should’ve kept a couple of them, they would interesting collectibles today). They overwhelmingly went for Pres Reagan and also in 84. Since then, with the exception of Elliot Engle, Bill and Hilary, and John Hall’s first term(NY19) and even then by a razor-thin margin, only because the Hasidim in Orange Cty were POed at Sue Kelly, the Orthodox around here, although a small voting bloc, lean right.


40 posted on 09/11/2012 6:24:16 PM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: Impala64ssa

...and to corroborate your point, a conservative Republican beat a Jewish Democrat in Weiner’s old district in Brooklyn/Queens, mainly on the strength of the ortho Jewish vote.


41 posted on 09/11/2012 6:27:21 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

To those wondering why Jews vote for Democrats, every time this question comes up, I give the same answer:

They may be Jews by birth or affiliation, but their religion is liberalism.


42 posted on 09/11/2012 6:30:41 PM PDT by JewishRighter
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To: Oldpuppymax

To those wondering why Jews vote for Democrats, every time this question comes up, I give the same answer:

They may be Jews by birth or affiliation, but their religion is liberalism.


43 posted on 09/11/2012 6:30:59 PM PDT by JewishRighter
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To: justiceseeker93

As a Jew, I am telling you all that it will be an historic turnout for Romney.


44 posted on 09/11/2012 8:41:12 PM PDT by Hildy (F"When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - Socrates)
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To: Kenny Bunk

“not counting Staten Island!”

Hey now...


45 posted on 09/11/2012 9:30:35 PM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative. REJECT THEN STOP SOCIALISM THIS NOV!)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Any American Jew that votes for Obama is an idiot!


46 posted on 09/11/2012 9:34:54 PM PDT by Batman11 (We came for the chicken sandwiches and a Sweet Tea Party broke out!)
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To: sf4dubya
...Hey now

Hey now, Staten Island actually has neighborhoods with streets, trees, and nice-looking private houses that most Americans would recognize as human settlements ... and did have Republican Congress critters.

This is rare in the Republican-Free Zones of the other Four Boroughs; a pleasant relief from other neighborhoods that look like Berlin in 1946 without the charm, or like Port-au-Prince after the big quake.

47 posted on 09/11/2012 10:18:57 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Hello, Supreme Court? What's a Natural Born Citizen? Been on hold for 5 years.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

I guess that you have not heard of Congressman Bob Turner, who won a special election in a Brooklyn-Queens district which is the most Jewish in the nation.


48 posted on 09/11/2012 10:19:01 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: rmlew
Congressman Bob Turner

And a Hell of a welcome victory it was! Call me when he gets re-elected.

BTW, my knowledge of NYC is a little dated. I lived there after college and my Congressman was Koch! His boyfriend (a ballet dancer) was our neighbor.

49 posted on 09/11/2012 10:26:07 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Hello, Supreme Court? What's a Natural Born Citizen? Been on hold for 5 years.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

Mary on a half shell, hot bagels, Jews and Catholics living on the same block as each other, home of the largest garbage dump in the world, contributing to 50% of Aqua Net hairspray’s bottom line, heavy accents that take years to overcome, and a major Republican voting bloc.


50 posted on 09/11/2012 11:45:42 PM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative. REJECT THEN STOP SOCIALISM THIS NOV!)
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