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Was Obama Really Ever A Great Orator?
The Aged P.com ^ | 08/09/12 | The Aged P

Posted on 09/08/2012 6:57:12 AM PDT by sussex

A lot of disappointment across the board about Obama’s speech at the Democrat’s Convention, even from the liberal left. But was he ever a great orator or was it all a myth generated by a compliant media that almost everyone else was afraid to confront?

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1 posted on 09/08/2012 6:57:20 AM PDT by sussex
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To: sussex

Absolutely. Unfortunately, he can only speak to people who aren’t hearing his words. His oration skills are like a pleasing tune. He fell flat at the DNC because he had to say actual words to defend his indefensible record. Suddenly the tune isn’t so pleasing.


2 posted on 09/08/2012 6:59:49 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: sussex

Obama.

There’s no “there” there.

He’s a prime example of affirmative (in)action.

And a dork, to boot.


3 posted on 09/08/2012 7:02:16 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: sussex

Actually, no. His main thought thrusts are Democrat platitudes consisting of three-to-five word phrases ennunciated in a quick cadence that ends with an abruptness intended to convey a finality as if he’d just spoken a universal fact (or to a Democrat’s ears, God’s - whoever that is to them - word).

If you add that prissy lisp he has for words ending with an “S,” you have, at least for me, a pretty annoying pattern of speech....

[Side note: I actually remember reading an article by some Obama butt-kisser who wrote extensively how is lisp was a sign of extreme intelligence.]


4 posted on 09/08/2012 7:03:16 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: sussex
I always thought he was rather mechanical in his speeches.

What he is is a practiced reader from the teleprompter.

5 posted on 09/08/2012 7:04:21 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: sussex
I have never understood that claim

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6 posted on 09/08/2012 7:05:16 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: sussex

To the headline: no


7 posted on 09/08/2012 7:07:34 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: sussex
Hell no... I have never liked the way he reads the words written for him. I do not think that he is intelligent or educated... I think he has conned his way through life using the racism scam.

LLS

8 posted on 09/08/2012 7:08:16 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("if it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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To: sussex

Was Obama Really Ever A Great Orator?

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From the first time I heard him....I would have answered NO to that question. He has learned how to utilize some persuasive technique....but he is NOT a GREAT orator. He makes grammatical mistakes, includes sloppy words ( the slang word “gonna” comes to mind) and often lacks substance and principle in what he says.

Given the culture of today...he is above average. That’s it...


9 posted on 09/08/2012 7:08:30 AM PDT by SumProVita
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To: sussex

He only repeats words other people have written for him.


10 posted on 09/08/2012 7:08:57 AM PDT by mardi59 (ROMNEY/RYAN 2012)
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To: sussex

the teleprompter in chief can read, real purdy like...to those who cant read between the lines, that is.


11 posted on 09/08/2012 7:09:29 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: sussex

I consider NO abject LIAR a great orator.

To be a great orator, you must speak the truth eloquently, forcefully and persuasively. LIES do not persuade, they fraudulently influence opinions until the truth is known.


12 posted on 09/08/2012 7:09:50 AM PDT by RatRipper (Obama, YOU LIE!!! . . .again and again and again and again, ad infinitum. . . .)
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To: Da Coyote
All in three sentences

BRAVO, Coyote

13 posted on 09/08/2012 7:10:00 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: sussex

His supposed oratorical skill was part of “the greatest hoax” Clint Eastwood spoke of.


14 posted on 09/08/2012 7:11:36 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: sussex

Obama is very good at speaking to the uninformed, much like Hitler was. Like Hitler, he can effectively blame the country’s woes on someone, anyone but himself. There is always a bogeyman referenced in his speeches. Hitler’s primary scapegoats were the Jews. Obama blames “the rich,” the Republicans and anyone who doesn’t worship him as the messiah. And like the German people under Hitler, the public eats it up.


15 posted on 09/08/2012 7:13:24 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Bryanw92

Barack Hussein Obama was one of the really big hoaxes ever pulled on the American people.

A fawning, sycophant media, skillful manipulation of image, a few well-placed “misfortunes” that befell others in the path of springing splendidly from triumph to triumph over the course of ever higher elective office, affirmative action where it was needed in those tough hurdles on the way to acquiring at least a modicum of civilization, this paragon of - something, no, not virtue - has become the ultimate “post turtle”. He didn’t get there by himself, he doesn’t belong there, he doesn’t know what to do while he is up there, and you just wonder who was so twisted as to put him there in the first place.

Americans have had their social experiment. Now, it is time to get back to the business of getting back to business.


16 posted on 09/08/2012 7:13:48 AM PDT by alloysteel (Are you better off than you were four years ago? Well, are you?)
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To: sussex

Obama’s skill in speaking is his ability to use a lot of words to say nothing. Those listening in the crowd only hear the words that agree with what they want to hear. That’s why in 2008 so many people claimed Obama agreed with them but you can never find a direct statement.

In his convention speech people listened to what he actually said and there was nothing there. The liberals were looking for a leader and suddenly realized they elected an organizer not a leader.


17 posted on 09/08/2012 7:14:15 AM PDT by shoff (Vote Democratic it beats thinking!)
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To: sussex

Of course Obama is a great orator..... If you like to have your ears tickled and don’t mind swallowing babbling platitudes that mean nothing....

If you think style trumps substance is what makes a great truth...Obama is the greatest....

A great orator tells you the truth in a way your heart and mind can agree with...

Obama deals strictly in lies....immense huge lies....


18 posted on 09/08/2012 7:14:15 AM PDT by Popman (In a place you only dream of Where your soul is always free)
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To: sussex

No!

His speeches call to mind that Kliban cartoon or it may have been Gary Larson ; “what people say and what dogs hear”. And basically all the dog was hearing was : blah blah blah blah- eat?- blah blah blah blah- go for a walk?- blah blah blah blah. In Obama’s case it’s: blah blah blah blah- black skin- blah blah blah blah.


19 posted on 09/08/2012 7:19:44 AM PDT by Chuzzlewit
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To: sussex

Biden is a buffoon of the highest order, but what I saw of his speech at the convention was far better delivered than anything Hussain has ever done. They are both bombastic phonies but I thought Biden’s “Uncle Joe” blue collar style connected with his audience (uncritical that it was). Obama is simply an elitist who preached and pontificated. He talks down to people.

Anyone can confidently give a speech if you’re allowed to say or promise anything the audience wants to hear, as long as you’re never held accountable for hypocracy or results.


20 posted on 09/08/2012 7:19:49 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Gaffer

“His main thought thrusts are Democrat platitudes consisting of three-to-five word phrases ennunciated in a quick cadence that ends with an abruptness intended to convey a finality as if he’d just spoken a universal fact”


You nailed it! Excellent post.

I’m looking forward to hearing the TOTUS’ last speech in office.


21 posted on 09/08/2012 7:23:47 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: sussex

And soon the other shoe will drop....the myth that Michele Obama is a beautiful, classy, fashion plate in the mold of Jackie Kennedy. The Left’s self imposed delusions about these two affirmative action,hollow cretins is something I hope we are seeing the end of. Maybe the fever has broken!!


22 posted on 09/08/2012 7:24:53 AM PDT by mick (Central Banker Capitalism is NOT Free Enterprise)
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To: fatnotlazy

I have never had a chill, a shiver, he is flat, 100X. He would fall flat on his face without a teleprompter.


23 posted on 09/08/2012 7:26:18 AM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: Bryanw92
His oration skills are like a pleasing tune.

Muskrat, Muskrat, candle light
Doin' the town and doin' it right in the evenin'
It's pretty pleasin'
Muskrat Suzie, Muskrat Sam
Do the jitterbug at a Muskrat Land
And they shimmy, Sam is so skinny

And they whirl and they twirl and they tango
Singin' and jinglin' a jangle
Float like the heavens above
Looks like Muskrat Love

Nibblin' on bacon
Chewin' on cheese
Sam says to Suzie
Honey, would you please be my Mrs
Suzie says, yes, with her kisses
Now, he's ticklin' her fancy
Rubbin' her toes
Muzzle to muzzle
Now anything goes as they wriggle
Sue starts to giggle

And they whirled and they twirled and they tango
Singin' and jinglin' a jangle
Floatin' like the heavens above
Looks like muskrat love

Somehow, that song was a big hit - because of its pleasing tune. But it's just like Obama, the words don't make a whole lot of sense and the popularity came from tone, not content.

24 posted on 09/08/2012 7:26:27 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: SumProVita

I don’t even think he is above average. Having done two sermons in my church and not believing myself that much of a speaker I am not impressed with the One.


25 posted on 09/08/2012 7:27:18 AM PDT by jimfree (In Nov 2012 my 12 y/o granddaughter has more relevant&quality executive experience than Barack Obama)
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To: sussex

As shown by Rush yesterday, Oba,a channeled Carter in his speech.


26 posted on 09/08/2012 7:27:28 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: sussex

I find Obama to be a very motivational speaker. Every time he comes on he motivates me to find the remote and change channels.


27 posted on 09/08/2012 7:31:29 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Ignorance is bliss- I'm stoked)
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To: Gaffer

who wrote extensively how is lisp was a sign of extreme intelligence.]

....LMAO!!!

We’ve been selling short in Telepromter stock.


28 posted on 09/08/2012 7:33:48 AM PDT by Recon Dad (Gas & Petroleum Junkie)
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To: fatnotlazy

“Like Hitler, he can effectively blame the country’s woes on someone, anyone but himself. There is always a bogeyman referenced in his speeches...Obama blames “the rich,” the Republicans and anyone who doesn’t worship him as the messiah. “


Good post. Never trust anyone who is always looking for a scapegoat, or somebody who changes linguistic accents to pander to a specific audience.


29 posted on 09/08/2012 7:35:58 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: sussex

Obama is a good ‘reader’ but not a good speaker.

He revealed that even last election cycle.

When he was on-teleprompter, he was good. When he went off-teleprompter, his speaking was full of lengthy pauses, many hmmmmms and uuuhhhhhs and uhmmmmmms.

Additionally, someone else wrote those grand speeches that all he had to do was read. Off script, Obama does not seem to have the capacity to comprehend even what he is trying to say.


30 posted on 09/08/2012 7:36:30 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

LOL!!!


31 posted on 09/08/2012 7:38:43 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: sussex

Symbolism over substance seem to hypnotize libs...not me.


32 posted on 09/08/2012 7:40:19 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: jimfree

I don’t even think he is above average.

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I understand. However, my qualifier was “Given the culture of today...”

It is painfully clear that...we MUST repair the educational system.


33 posted on 09/08/2012 7:42:05 AM PDT by SumProVita
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To: sussex
The question on the table??:

WAS OBAMA EVER REALLY A GREAT ORATOR

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NOPE!

TOTUS_1

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I rest my case....

34 posted on 09/08/2012 7:42:05 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: Gaffer
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35 posted on 09/08/2012 7:44:33 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: sussex

No, he always reminded me of a carny barker.


36 posted on 09/08/2012 7:44:57 AM PDT by biff (WAS)
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To: sussex

My dogs think I’m a great speaker, but only when I use the words like, “treat”, “din-din”, and “go outside”.

Anyone giving out free treats is a “great speaker” to those to whom s/he is making the promise.

Just how good does one have to be to get accolades from those to whom they are giving other peoples money?

Meanwhile, he has a miserable record of giving to charities from his personal money.

But a speaker? I’ll put it this way, I managed three radio stations during my 15-year stint in broadcasting, and if I had received an audition tape from him, sight unseen, I would have tossed it into the trash. He has a sing-song delivery which would cause listeners to clamber for the “off” button on their radios.


37 posted on 09/08/2012 7:46:16 AM PDT by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: Popman

Obama deals strictly in lies....immense huge lies....


Easy for him to get away since a compliant MSM has been reliably running cover for him. However, it’s becoming apparent that the media is having a harder time defending the indefensible. I saw more negative press yesterday than ever before.


38 posted on 09/08/2012 7:46:16 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: sussex

I’m not a big Laura Ingraham fan, but she made a good point after listening to Obama reading from his own book for an audio edition.

That is, he’s good not only at reading aloud, but at doing voice overs—funny accents (that the rest of us can’t get away with doing any more) and all.

He’s too stiff to be an actor IMO and not quick enough on his feet or humorous enough to host a talk show, but I think he could do well with radio voice overs.


39 posted on 09/08/2012 7:47:26 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Bryanw92
His oration skills are like a pleasing tune.

Really?

I find them annoying and obnoxious ... regardless of the words. He has a weird, robotic tone of voice and repetitive cadence that doesn't match the sentence structure ... and that's when he's reading the teleprompter.

When he's just speaking, he stutters, stammers, and gibbers.

40 posted on 09/08/2012 7:47:33 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: shoff

I have a sister in law who could be his writer. I received an email once from her regarding a 4th of July BBQ that was a full page long. Essentially it said.....bring chairs. She did it on purpose of course but I was cracking up.


41 posted on 09/08/2012 7:47:46 AM PDT by sheana
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To: sussex

No he is not a great orator. He is an affirmative action candidate that is given difference for his color. He is stilted and talks in jive so they allow him accolades he doesn’t deserve.


42 posted on 09/08/2012 7:47:53 AM PDT by bray (If you vote for a communist what does that make you?)
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To: FrankR

That sing song, as you call it, is the same cadence a preacher uses. I noticed it the first time I ever heard him speak with the TelePrompTer. I looked at hubby and said.....omg he is preaching to us!


43 posted on 09/08/2012 7:52:23 AM PDT by sheana
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To: sussex

Ask Larry Sinclair. Oh, wait, you said orator.


44 posted on 09/08/2012 7:54:21 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: TomGuy
And sometimes he's not even a good reader.

Remember how he mispronounced the word 'corps' and spoke it as 'corpse' instead?! It wasn't just a slip of the tongue since he said it several times in the same speech.

He often shows himself to be truly ignorant when off-'prompter, but in that speech he showed his ignorance while on-'prompter, as well!

45 posted on 09/08/2012 7:56:30 AM PDT by mellow velo (Oxymorons: jumbo shrimp, rap music, liberal think-tank)
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To: sussex

Clinton and Obama are the 2 most overrated speakers of recent times. Colossal bores. When your only memorable line over 20 years is “I did not have sex with that woman” you know you need to upgrade your public speaking skills


46 posted on 09/08/2012 7:56:34 AM PDT by chuckee
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To: Pollster1; ArrogantBustard

>>Somehow, that song was a big hit - because of its pleasing tune. But it’s just like Obama, the words don’t make a whole lot of sense and the popularity came from tone, not content.

That was exactly my point. “Muskrat Love” is a song I still like to hear, but when you listen to the words, its creepy. Thanks for coming up with such a graphic example of Obama’s oration skills. See what I mean, ArrogantBustard?


47 posted on 09/08/2012 7:59:59 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: jimfree
I don’t even think he is above average. Having done two sermons in my church and not believing myself that much of a speaker I am not impressed with the One.

All I see when he is viewed is that cartoon of this little mousey-looking big ears sitting in a huge chair in the Oval Office.

48 posted on 09/08/2012 8:01:27 AM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection then failure is your election)
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To: sussex

Maybe we should ask P. T. Barnum.


49 posted on 09/08/2012 8:04:52 AM PDT by Yogafist
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To: Bryanw92

If you say so, but I’ve always hated his voice and his speech cadence. It’s like nails on a chalkboard.


50 posted on 09/08/2012 8:06:34 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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