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DOJ Argues against Religious Exemption from Obamacare Mandate
Semi-News/Semi-Satire ^ | 8 Sep 2012 | John Semmens

Posted on 09/08/2012 12:43:59 PM PDT by John Semmens

The Thomas More Law Center’s lawsuit on behalf of Legatus, the nation’s largest organization of top Catholic business leaders was sharply challenged by Department of Justice lawyers. The lawsuit is seeking a religious exemption from being required to fund the birth control and abortion services dictated by Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius.

DOJ attorney, Stuart Delery argued that “the claimed freedom of religion infringement is without merit. The plaintiffs remain as free as ever to attend the church of their choice and to personally adhere to whatever dogma they choose to believe. What they are not free to do is refuse to pay for the medical treatments that the government has declared their employees are entitled to receive.”

Delery said “a careful reading of the Constitution finds no clause that restricts the government’s right to implement the health care regulations it deems warranted. On the contrary, the very first sentence of the document instructs the government to promote the general welfare.”

The DOJ lawyer also contended that “the plaintiffs’ case fails even within the context of their own religious tenets. Jesus, their religion’s guiding light, bade his followers to ‘render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s.’ Is not the money they object to paying for the mandated health services clearly ‘Caesar’s?’ Isn’t it the US Government that issues the money, regulates its value, and directs how it may lawfully be used?”

if you missed any of this week's other semi-news posts you can find them at...

http://azconservative.org/2012/09/08/president-tells-americans-theyre-better-off-than-four-years-ago/


TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: abortion; obamacare; satire; tyranny

1 posted on 09/08/2012 12:44:08 PM PDT by John Semmens
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2 posted on 09/08/2012 12:45:23 PM PDT by John Semmens
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To: John Semmens

john..........darn....i ate it up....now I’m spitting it out. Kudos!!


3 posted on 09/08/2012 12:46:30 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: John Semmens

Then the Muslims have to follow it as well?


4 posted on 09/08/2012 12:47:30 PM PDT by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: John Semmens

So now the U.S. government is teaching the Church what it’s doctrine is?


5 posted on 09/08/2012 12:47:57 PM PDT by AnalogReigns (reality is analog, not digital...)
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To: John Semmens

Whoa, ya almost got me again.


6 posted on 09/08/2012 12:51:22 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a Barack 0b0tt0my!)
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To: John Semmens

Sad, isn’t it, when satire is soooo close to reality, one always has to check for the “satire” keyword!

John, you have an uncanny ability to turn your writings into “reality”!!

:)


7 posted on 09/08/2012 12:56:16 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: John Semmens

‘render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s.’

And render unto God what is “In God We Trust”.


8 posted on 09/08/2012 12:57:53 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (I used to want to change the world. Now, I want to stop the world from changing me.)
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To: John Semmens

Why is this sarcasm.

Islam bombed America and won.
In 1983, in 1993, and in 2001.
Congress got on its knees and gave up,
giving Islam exemption from ObamaCARE as
the pOTUS began plans with al Qaeda
for the destruction of America and Israel.
And Congress remained on their knees.


9 posted on 09/08/2012 1:08:03 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: Sacajaweau
The plaintiffs remain as free as ever to attend the church of their choice and to personally adhere to whatever dogma they choose to believe. What they are not free to do is refuse to pay for the medical treatments that the government has declared their employees are entitled to receive.”

What an outrageous statement. The above argument is essentially that you can believe your religion, but you can not exercise your beliefs. It is a blatant violation of the First Amendment which reads:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...

The constitution does not say you have the right to believe your religion, it says you have a right to the "free exercise" of it. Any law that makes you incapable of freely exercising your religious beliefs is thus utterly unconstitutional, and consequently, null and void. If you can't freely live your religion you don't have the right to the "free exercise" thereof.

The last part of the lawyers statement is also frightening. He says:

What they are not free to do is refuse to pay for the medical treatments that the government has declared their employees are entitled to receive.”

So what DOJ is arguing is that if you must choose between obeying God or the government, then you must choose to obey the government....

. Hmmm...sure sounds like the free exercise of religion to me. What a communist utopia the administration is making the US into!

10 posted on 09/08/2012 1:19:15 PM PDT by old republic
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To: AnalogReigns

are we really all that far from it now?


11 posted on 09/08/2012 1:19:57 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Brad's Gramma; John Semmens

Oh, this is satire? You got me. It sounds just like the things that the Obama Administration has argued in court before. This article is indeed uncannily realistic. It might even become a real news story in the near future.


12 posted on 09/08/2012 1:26:41 PM PDT by old republic
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To: Ingtar

Of course not. Maobama has instructed an exemption for the Mohammedans to everything he imposes upon Christians and Orthodox Jews.


13 posted on 09/08/2012 1:27:48 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: John Semmens

Please do not Ping me with semi Satire BS. Thank you.


14 posted on 09/08/2012 2:15:51 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: old republic

Yep!

:(


15 posted on 09/08/2012 2:20:08 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: John Semmens

Super job, John. Thanks again for the ping.


16 posted on 09/08/2012 2:39:54 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: John Semmens
Hail Caesar!!!

17 posted on 09/08/2012 2:53:13 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: John Semmens
Thanks very much for the ping

59 days...
18 posted on 09/08/2012 3:08:12 PM PDT by novemberslady
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To: John Semmens
"I'm exempt since I worship barry barak soetoro dunham obama"/s
19 posted on 09/08/2012 3:43:04 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: John Semmens
What they are not free to do is refuse to pay for the medical treatments that the government has declared their employees are entitled to receive.

In other words, GOVERNMENT IS A RELIGION, and people who have a religious faith in government are practicing that religion.

20 posted on 09/08/2012 3:48:36 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: John Semmens
The general welfare clause says exactly,
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

The clause refers clearly to the welfare of the United States. If the framers meant to refer to the people, they would have used the word people, just as they did in the first amendment.

21 posted on 09/08/2012 3:49:43 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: John Semmens
Great one, John! It's been a while since I read all the way to the end before realizing it was one of yours. Totally had me right up to where the DOJ lawyer says "Jesus, their religion’s guiding light,...". That tipped me off, because I don't think a DOJ lawyer would be able to let Jesus' name pass his lips.

Congrats!

22 posted on 09/08/2012 3:49:47 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: John Semmens

You must have vast knowledge of the political world to be able to write satire in such an excellent manner.

Thanks for the ping!


23 posted on 09/08/2012 6:50:01 PM PDT by berdie
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To: John Semmens

Dammit John - I nearly bit through my tongue before I noticed it was your work. Let’s pray Obama loses and the Dims take a trouncing in both Houses lest you have to drop “satire” from the description...


24 posted on 09/09/2012 1:48:53 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: John Semmens

Good one, John.


25 posted on 09/09/2012 9:19:28 AM PDT by wastedyears (The First Law of Heavy Metal: Not all metal is satanic.)
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To: John Semmens

John, this is the closest you’ve come to actual facts IMHO. Thanx for the post!


26 posted on 09/09/2012 9:27:01 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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What a SHOCK!
thxs, for the satire.
(i think. :-)

27 posted on 09/09/2012 9:30:53 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (WA DC E$tabli$hment; DNC/RNC/Unionists...Brazilian saying: "$@me Old $hit; w/ different flie$" :^)
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To: John Semmens

Good one John. Thanks for the ping.


28 posted on 09/09/2012 1:42:20 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: John Semmens

“a careful reading of the Constitution finds no clause that restricts the government’s right to implement the health care regulations it deems warranted. On the contrary, the very first sentence of the document instructs the government to promote the general welfare.”

Not true. The powers of the federal government are “enumerated”, meaning if a power isn’t specified, it belongs to the States and to the People.

For a an excellent and clear exposition of what really comprises constitutionality, see http://www.americanclarion.com/11714/2012/08/27/god-given-rights-man-made-anti-rights-safety-nets-immoral/


29 posted on 09/10/2012 8:19:16 AM PDT by retiredday
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