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Obama’s Ungodly Policies Risk Black Christian Votes
The Christian Diarist ^ | September 8, 2012 | JP

Posted on 09/08/2012 3:27:38 PM PDT by CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Once upon a time, I wrote a newspaper column while onsite at a Democratic National Convention.

I opined that, “It really doesn’t matter who the Democrats nominate as their party standard-bearer – Bill Clinton, David Duke or a loaf of bread – black voters will blindly support him (or it).”

Indeed, blacks have gone overwhelming Democrat since the 1932 presidential election, when Franklin Roosevelt captured 71 percent of the black vote.

Given that history, most political observers expect the same outcome when black voters go to the polls this upcoming November. Especially since one of their own is running for a second term in the White House.

Well, I have a different view. While I expect that the majority of blacks will indeed cast their ballots for Barack Obama, I seriously doubt he will capture 96 percent of the black vote this time around.

That’s because a certain segment of the black population – socially conservative, church-going Christians – are none too pleased with the ungodly positions the president has taken on such issues as same-sex marriage and abortion.

Indeed, the 1,300-member Coalition of African-American Pastors is currently circulating a petition among their church congregations encouraging Obama to reconsider his election-year support for same-sex couplings.

“By embracing gay marriage,” said Rev. William Owens, the Coalition’s president, “President Obama is leading the country down an immoral path. Some things are bigger than the next election.”

Then there’s the National Black ProLife Coalition, a network of pro-life and pro-family organizations. It points out that abortion is the leading cause of death for blacks.

And that Democrat-aligned Planned Parenthood, whose president got podium time at the Democrat convention in Charlotte, is most responsible for the yearly slaughter of pre-born black babies.

“We’re calling out black leaders,” the Coalition declares, “who align themselves with the destructive eugenic force of Planned Parenthood.” That includes Obama, who has sold his soul to the abortion-industrial complex.

So, while a majority of black voters almost certainly will line up behind Obama again – despite the immoral path down which he has led this nation, as Rev. Owens lamented, those that place God above political party, above racial hegemony, will vote not to return him to the White House.


TOPICS: History; Politics; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: blackchristians; blackvote; election; presidentobama
Obama won 15.1 million black votes in 2008. I predict 1 million fewer black votes for Obama in 2012.
1 posted on 09/08/2012 3:27:46 PM PDT by CHRISTIAN DIARIST
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST
Obama won 69 million votes in 1968. Since 'W's high point in 2004, we've been on a downward trend in Presidential votes. Obama will need to lose 16 million votes just to pull even with the probable upper end of Republican votes.

So, if Obama lost 100% of the black vote we'd still lose.

BTW, I went over this last November ~ this race is much tougher to win than you might imagine. That's why we needed somebody with some charisma who'd be willing to say bad things about the other side!

2 posted on 09/08/2012 3:35:31 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST
Yeah right.

Obama could torch black churches and burn crosses on their lawns and it wouldn't make the least bit of dent in his support among the blacks.

3 posted on 09/08/2012 3:36:40 PM PDT by RightWingNilla
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To: muawiyah

Thanks muawiyah. Very good information.


4 posted on 09/08/2012 3:37:36 PM PDT by CHRISTIAN DIARIST
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

It frustrates and saddens me that so many of these people are motivated by envy, jealousy, covetousness and eagerly accept looted wealth. Looking to the government to meet your needs and solve your problems is idolatry pure and simple. Abortion and sodomy are not the only things about the Dems that should trouble Christians. They are evil through and through.


5 posted on 09/08/2012 3:37:42 PM PDT by all the best (`~!)
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To: muawiyah

Agreed.


6 posted on 09/08/2012 3:37:42 PM PDT by RightWingNilla
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Headline should read - “Obama’s ungodly policies risk his eternal soul”.


7 posted on 09/08/2012 3:38:15 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

I will say this. I will NEVER vote my skin color on any issue over my Lord! God comes first. Even over America. If blacks vote for blacks over the Lord, then one day they will have to explain it to HIM!!! That simple.


8 posted on 09/08/2012 3:39:56 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (The Scriptures clearly tell us we are in the last days, the end times. Christ is the only answer!)
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To: RightWingNilla
those that place God above political party, above racial hegemony, will vote not to return him to the White House.

Don't kid yourself. there aren't that many of those.

Instead of 96% it might be 94%.

9 posted on 09/08/2012 3:41:28 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: muawiyah

“Since ‘W’s high point in 2004, we’ve been on a downward trend in Presidential votes.’

Since 2004, there has been only *one* presidential election, so one data point in 2008 constitute a trend?


10 posted on 09/08/2012 3:48:40 PM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: ChildOfThe60s

In the privacy of the voting booth, color trumps everything for black voters. I’ll be surprised if obama doesn’t increase his share of the black vote.


11 posted on 09/08/2012 3:48:57 PM PDT by Josa
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To: Josa

bump


12 posted on 09/08/2012 3:49:49 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: all the best
It frustrates and saddens me that so many of these people are motivated by envy, jealousy, covetousness and eagerly accept looted wealth. Looking to the government to meet your needs and solve your problems is idolatry pure and simple.

Sometimes I think this all started when the Northern Carpet baggers promised them all 40 Acres and a Mule....

BTW, If you look me up it will say I'm from Georgia....BUT up until last year, I lived my entire life in Ohio, so this is not a southerner of original origin making this statement.

13 posted on 09/08/2012 3:52:12 PM PDT by thingumbob (I'm a bitter clinger...I dare you to take my gun)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Ungodly? Try anti-God.


14 posted on 09/08/2012 3:55:33 PM PDT by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
Re: Instead of 96% it might be 94%.

That is my prediction as well. Only a very tiny percentage of the Black community see the truth about Obama, and I am sure that most of them will still vote for Obama. Race trumps everything.

15 posted on 09/08/2012 3:59:54 PM PDT by Nevadan
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To: Truthsearcher
Two points are enough to give you a trend. That was the first drop in like 100+ years I believe so that gives you a third referent ~ HISTOIRE!

You should examine the data and give us an idea what the normal trendline is ~ then 'splain 2008! Tell us why that's going to stop.

16 posted on 09/08/2012 4:01:13 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Nevadan

How can you think it’s all about race? They typically vote 90% rat.


17 posted on 09/08/2012 4:05:32 PM PDT by all the best (`~!)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST
What these Conservative Black Christians need to remind their church going friends of a statement that Ronald Reagan once made about the Democratic Party...

I didn't leave the Democratic Party, It left me....--Ronald Reagan

18 posted on 09/08/2012 4:10:12 PM PDT by thingumbob (I'm a bitter clinger...I dare you to take my gun)
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To: muawiyah

No, you have one data point, that the vote total for the Republican presidential candidate went down in 2008 compared to 2004, even though it went up from 1992 to 2004.

1992: 39.1 Million
1996: 39.2 Million
2000: 50.5 Million
2004: 62.0 Million

So just because it went down in one data point in 2008 to 59.8 Million, that’s the trend?


19 posted on 09/08/2012 4:10:27 PM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

How will Black churchgoers be able to continue singing their favorite spirituals, for example, about how their eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord, after voting for the leader of a political party whose members have booed God and His holy city Jerusalem?

God will not be mocked or booed, and what do Black church members think He’s going to do with His terrible swift sword except use it against the mockers and booers and those who vote for them?


20 posted on 09/08/2012 4:14:30 PM PDT by Bluestocking
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To: Truthsearcher
That's the current trend ~ exactly what I said, you only need two points ~ PLUS ~ it's been going up at a regular clip win or not ~ then that?

The probability for further decline is exceedingly high ~ that's why I haven't been able to imagine any rationale for Republican party operatives to DISCOURAGE Republican voters this year?

Do they want to guarantee a loss or what.

21 posted on 09/08/2012 4:15:58 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Nevadan
The problem with discussing the vote based on percentages of a "colored" block of voters is that Percentages don't tell you who many voters came out to vote in a community....

Here's and example:

96 black votes out of 100 blacks who come out to vote still equals 96%

BUT

48 votes out of 50 blacks who come out to vote is also 96%

The key is really the number of black voters who actually bother to come out to vote this time around.

22 posted on 09/08/2012 4:19:16 PM PDT by thingumbob (I'm a bitter clinger...I dare you to take my gun)
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To: RightWingNilla
Obama could torch black churches and burn crosses on their lawns and it wouldn't make the least bit of dent in his support among the blacks.

Word. {fist bump}

23 posted on 09/08/2012 4:19:16 PM PDT by DungeonMaster (If a man will not work, then neither shall he eat.)
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To: all the best
I don't think is is entirely about race. Most American Blacks vote Democrat because they have bought the lies of the Democrats that only the Democrats really care about Blacks and civil rights while Republicans hate them. But when it comes to Obama and the Black community, it is “see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil”. He is a “brother”. So they are sticking with him despite anything that goes against their personal values.
24 posted on 09/08/2012 4:28:12 PM PDT by Nevadan
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST; Colofornian

Black Christians who rightly abandon Obama for his pro-homosexual policies are applauded

yet White Christians who abandon Romney are villlified

go figure


25 posted on 09/08/2012 4:30:03 PM PDT by RaceBannon (When Chuck Norris goes to bed, he checks under it for Clint Eastwood!)
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To: thingumbob

I guess it had nothing to do with actually lynching them after they were freed, did it....


26 posted on 09/08/2012 4:33:51 PM PDT by RaceBannon (When Chuck Norris goes to bed, he checks under it for Clint Eastwood!)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

“Obama’s Ungodly Policies Risk Black Christian Votes”

No, they don’t.


27 posted on 09/08/2012 4:41:00 PM PDT by LaserJock
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To: muawiyah

One data point is not a significant basis on which to draw any meaningful conclusions.

By that logic then Reagan would have had no shot in 1980, because the *gasp* trend of 1976 as a sharp decline from 1972.

Now is the job in front of Romney/Ryan hard? Of course it is. I have no illusions about how difficult winning this election is going to be. Simply because the number of people on the government feeding trough continues to grow. This might be the last chance to stop it, because if Obama is elected, the looters and parasites will become an ensconced majority by 2016.

This is why anyone who is sitting out of this election because Romney is “only the lesser or two evils* is nuts.


28 posted on 09/08/2012 4:41:39 PM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: thingumbob
Sometimes I think this all started when the Northern Carpet baggers promised them all 40 Acres and a Mule....

In fairness to the REPUBLICAN "carpetbaggers", it must be said that 40 acres and a mule would have been just reparations: TO ACTUAL EX-SLAVES.... from the estates and pockets of ACTUAL SLAVEOWNERS (not random innocent whites born a century later who mostly aren't even descended from slaveowners).

Also, it would have created a large selfsufficient black middle class that would likely be voting GOP to this day.

Alas, the DEMOCRATS stopped the REPUBLICAN reparations plan... consigning a lot of blacks to sharecropperhood at the hands of "Boss Hogg" DEMOCRATS (a fate shared by many poor whites, but that's another story.)

29 posted on 09/08/2012 4:52:37 PM PDT by Rytwyng (I'm still fond of the United States. I just can't find it. -- Fred Reed)
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To: RaceBannon
That had more to do with Nathan Bedford Forrest than being promised free stuff for being free....

The lynchings you speak of may influence them still but we're suppose to be talking about Good Christians here, so where does the forgiveness and healing begin? When they get enough free stuff?

Or should I have to pay reparations to a group of people who I can personally point to my bloodline and prove that my blood relatives actually shed their's (from Kentucky no less) for the union side, and ultimately, according to Lincoln, for them.

No.... the 40 acres and a mule promise by the Carpet baggers......that was the first begins that I can think of off-hand where people were attempting to find a way to influence them by buying them off.

30 posted on 09/08/2012 4:57:08 PM PDT by thingumbob (I'm a bitter clinger...I dare you to take my gun)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST
1st Samuel 8:6-20

But when they said, "Give us a king to lead us," this displeased Samuel; so he prayed to the Lord. And the Lord told him: "Listen to all that the people are saying to you; it is not you they have rejected, but they have rejected me as their king. As they have done from the day I brought them up out of Egypt until this day, forsaking me and serving other gods, so they are doing to you.

Now listen to them; but warn them solemnly and let them know what the king who will reign over them will do." Samuel told all the words of the Lord to the people who were asking him for a king.

He said, "This is what the king who will reign over you will do: He will take your sons and make them serve with his chariots and horses, and they will run in front of his chariots. Some he will assign to be commanders of thousands and commanders of fifties, and others to plow his ground and reap his harvest, and still others to make weapons of war and equipment for his chariots. He will take your daughters to be perfumers and cooks and bakers.

He will take the best of your fields and vineyards and olive groves and give them to his attendants. He will take a tenth of your grain and of your vintage and give it to his officials and attendants. Your menservants and maidservants and the best of your cattle and donkeys he will take for his own use. He will take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves will become his slaves.

When that day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, and the Lord will not answer you in that day." But the people refused to listen to Samuel. "No!" they said. "We want a king over us. Then we will be like all the other nations, with a king to lead us and to go out before us and fight our battles."

The modern day parallel could not be more obvious:

Give us a Liberal/Socialist King (Obama) that we may be like all those other nice European nations.

And note well the consequences: Excessive taxation, drafting sons and daughters into national service (only a matter of time), property seizures, officials fattening off the production of the people, and eventually the people becoming his slaves, are the inevitable result!!!!

I never thought I'd live to see the day, that 96% of black Americans would vote for slavery. Why did my Union army forefathers bother to volunteer?

31 posted on 09/08/2012 5:11:02 PM PDT by Rytwyng (I'm still fond of the United States. I just can't find it. -- Fred Reed)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Given how the demon party handled the GOD and Israel vote, it does not matter how the votes fall, dems have assured whatever the outcome odumbo mugumbo will win.


32 posted on 09/08/2012 5:13:51 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: Rytwyng

Excellent analogy Rytwyng.


33 posted on 09/08/2012 5:16:51 PM PDT by CHRISTIAN DIARIST
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST
That’s because a certain segment of the black population – socially conservative, church-going Christians

And what percentage does this "certain segment" comprise? Not one that statistically matters, I warrant. There are millions upon millions of single mother/multiple child "families" who are church-goers that believe Obamalamadingdong and the Democrat Party are the earthly equivalent to God Himself.

34 posted on 09/08/2012 5:25:31 PM PDT by workerbee (June 28, 2012 -- 9/11 From Within)
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To: Rytwyng
Thank you first for your clarifiction regarding who did what....and I can agree with some of your points and am in no way a history major or teacher for that matter.

In regards to Republican or Democrat, I wasn't making my "statement of curiousity in regards to the 40 acres and a mule" in that context...

....just that it was the first time I can think of where someone (Republican or Democrat) promised them something for free.

BTW, no one knows for sure that if the freed black community had been give free land that they would have become a self sufficient middle class today.... this is all based on assumptions towards a future that was unknown back then.

Men like Nathan Bedford Forrest were still standing in the way also.

Republicans never sealed the promise of freedom for the black community until 1965 but it was the Kennedy's (Jack and Bobby) that started sending the Government down to finish the job, even though most Democrats voted against the 1965 Act. The black community moved to the Democratic column primarily because of the Kennedy's.

35 posted on 09/08/2012 5:25:55 PM PDT by thingumbob (I'm a bitter clinger...I dare you to take my gun)
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To: Truthsearcher

Don’t leap to an inference I didn’t make ~ I didn’t say Romney would lose ~ I said this campaign is actually a lot tougher than he and his running dog lackeys imagined ~ they’re just now figuring out what a 10 million vote advantage means.


36 posted on 09/08/2012 5:26:14 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST
Blacks used to be Republican until somewhere around the 1920s or so. They had distinct memories of the Republican President Abraham Lincoln and his Emancipation Proclamation.

Frederick Douglass was a Republican and even made a speech at Hillsdale College.

37 posted on 09/08/2012 5:26:32 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: muawiyah

Honestly, having worked in a campaign, that people who work in campaigns takes things a lot more seriously than the layman. They eat and sleep this stuff, they worry about everything, they are on pins and needles even when they are up by double digit in the polls. I seriously doubt they are going into this with rose-color glasses.


38 posted on 09/08/2012 5:34:23 PM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: Slyfox; Nevadan

Blacks were republican until the 1936 election, they went from being a permanently typical 71% or so republican vote in 1932, to suddenly flipping into the permanent, overwhelming democrat vote in 1936.

The flip was instant, and it was a total reversal, no trackable changes, no gradual growth, no slow erosion, just an instant flip.


39 posted on 09/08/2012 5:53:49 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Aug. 27, 2012-Mitt Romney said his views on abortion are more lenient than the Republican Platform)
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To: ansel12
Blacks were republican until the 1936 election

Thanks, I wasn't sure of the exact date.

They really liked "Honest Abe."

40 posted on 09/08/2012 5:58:33 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: RetiredArmy

Maybe half or more of the people on this site are going to vote for the person who brought taxpayer subsidized abortions and gay marriages to an entire state because of their fear of one man. There are a lot of people who will have to explain things to the Lord one day. I know I’ll be doing some explaining myself.

I do agree with CHRISTIAN DIARIST, Obama will get fewer black votes this time around. But because the only choice they are presented with has a problem with moral principles, they will more than likely not vote for the alternative.

I don’t expect Romney to increase his percentage of black votes at all. It may even decrease. But that is because blacks are social conservatives, where as Romney is any and everything but socially conservative. But I also expect Obama’s black vote total to decrease because most blacks don’t believe in gay marriage at all. That will hurt Obama in some states, like North Carolina.

Reagan was right. We should have been about expanding the tent by drawing those who agree with our conservative principles, not changing our principles to increase the number in the big tent.


41 posted on 09/08/2012 6:02:06 PM PDT by Waryone
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To: thingumbob
Republicans never sealed the promise of freedom for the black community until 1965 but it was the Kennedy's (Jack and Bobby) that started sending the Government down to finish the job, even though most Democrats voted against the 1965 Act. The black community moved to the Democratic column primarily because of the Kennedy's

There's some truth to this.... the Kennedys did reach out to MLK, but....

The Republican party was FOUNDED for the express purpose of destroying slavery. Which it did.

It was Republicans who pushed through the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments to free, naturalize, and enfranchise blacks.

Republicans spent the next 100 years, off and on, pushing for civil rights and anti-lynching laws, only to be thwarted by Democrats at every turn.

It was a Republican president, Eisenhower, who sent the 82nd Airborne to desegregate the schools.

It was a Republican president, Nixon, who introduced affirmative action as a corrective measure, to undo the purge of blacks from government offices that happened on Democrat Woodrow Wilson's watch.

The Civil Rights legislation of the 60s got a higher percentage of Republican than Democrat votes.

Just like the environmental movement, the civil rights movement was originally a Republican initiative, which was later hijacked by Democrats -- who then rewrote history to dishonestly claim full credit for these movements.

BTW... I noted above, that, "The Republican party was FOUNDED for the express purpose of destroying slavery" -- that's still true today. In the 19th century, we fought plantation slavery. In the 20th century, we fought socialist slavery (and that battle not quite over yet). In the 21st century, we will be fighting debt slavery.

And just as always, the damnned Democrats are, and ever shall be, on the WRONG SIDE... until the very last minute.

42 posted on 09/08/2012 10:47:57 PM PDT by Rytwyng (I'm still fond of the United States. I just can't find it. -- Fred Reed)
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To: RightWingNilla
Obama could torch black churches and burn crosses on their lawns and it wouldn't make the least bit of dent in his support among the blacks.

Yep - "faith" is such a tenuous concept when compared to the brain-washed minorities who feel so oppressed as they go about their daily activities with no more restrictions than their "oppressers".

43 posted on 09/09/2012 3:04:25 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Rytwyng

Thanks for all of this.....its nice to know the information.


44 posted on 09/09/2012 5:30:33 AM PDT by thingumbob (I'm a bitter clinger...I dare you to take my gun)
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