Skip to comments.Some fancy neighborhoods open gates to Section 8 tenants
Posted on 09/09/2012 11:20:23 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Here's an odd side effect of South Florida's foreclosure crisis: Some immense homes with pools and three-car garages in gated communities are being rented out to unlikely tenants poor people paying with Section 8 aid.
Among the properties are homes with up to 4,500 square feet of space in private communities with guardhouses and regal names such as "Monarch Lakes" and "Bellagio at Vizcaya."
Some of the owners are teetering on foreclosure and gambling they can earn enough money from the federal housing vouchers to stave off the banks. Others bought the properties cheap in foreclosure auctions and want the guaranteed rental income.
Housing advocates and the government view the turnabout as a win-win for homeowners and the poor, who have access to safer communities and better schools.
But some neighbors are aghast.
After a single mother and her nine children rented a house in the exclusive Isles neighborhood of Coral Springs, the homeowners association adopted an amendment to its governing documents stating: "No Section 8 or government leasing assistance is permitted."
The association is threatening eviction.
Federal law does not expressly outlaw such bans....
(Excerpt) Read more at sun-sentinel.com ...
Only a matter of time before that property falls into disrepair, filled with trash and its interior gutted and destroyed. The owner needs to be held liable for every penny of depreciation of all properties affected by this.
So, will we see formerly nice neighborhoods “go ghetto” as we see the public assistance crowd move in?
Do these owners realize that public assistance types really tear up the places they live in? The rent income they get will not offset their repair costs, or their ongoing mortage costs, to keep the properties.
If you get undesirables in nice areas, then property values drop for everyone.
They are about to discover a corrolary to Gresham’s Law - bad neighbors drive out good.
You and I had the same thoughts, but you expressed it better than I did. If these owners think renting to the Section 8 crowd will give them income to tide them over until the real estate market improves, they are dreaming.
In evil times, the more useless or dangerous you are to society, the higher you live.
Amazing, how satanic goverment has become after we turned our back on God.
Back up and think for just a second. How do you propose trying to sell the notion that renting to the “wrong” people is actionable? It will never happen, not in a million years.
To prevent us from escaping neighborhoods that are "a changing" they fix the housing bubble in such a way to make it difficult for us to move. Then they fix it so people who breed crime are allowed into neighborhoods they would not be able to afford without a grand infusion of OUR CASH.
The Plan is for all of us to live happily in a Worker's Paradise, unable to move as we see fit, and have us pay the entire bill.
And who pays the utility bills? I own a 1800 sq" 4/2 in NE Florida, brand-new energy-efficient everything and my summer utility bill can easy exceed $300 -and that's keeping my A/C set at a sweltering 76 degrees.
I can't image what the bills for a 4500 sq" home with a living room "large enough to play football in" are going to set back these Section 8 tenants.
It may come to this:
Just a small number of these folks will destroy the neighborhood in short order. Many of their children are little cretins who start building up rap sheets in their early teens.
Does anyone know if there is a publicly available list of addresses that have already been rented to Section 8 tenants? That would be useful information to track if you’re thinking of buying a home.
You and I do, naturally.
P.S..... don't forget to put your garage door down after you pull the car in....and for heaven sakes don't leave it open overnight!
At the link you can click through to a government website that may work for that purpose.
I just copied it off and I'm sending it to our Homeowners Association Board to make sure this doesn't happen in our neighborhood.
Yes, of course. Stupid me. I'm sure they qualify for all kinds of exemptions, vouchers and reduced rates which means they wouldn't see a $300 utility bill if they ran their a/c 24/7 at 65 degrees with the windows open. Not to mention, many of them probably qualify as disabled which means paying their utility bill is completely optional. In many places, it's next to impossible for the power company to shut off a disabled person's service no matter how high they've run up past-due bills.
I'm preparing a copy of this article with cover letter for my own Homeowners Association Board to insure this doesn't happen in our neighborhood.
As a disabled veteran, that’s news to me. Do you have a link by any chance?
That's the one that can be placed as a lien against your house and cloud the title until the homeowner pays it.
There goes the neighborhood.
Of course the one potential good thing is that once these people start moving in next to limousine liberals, they’ll start changing their tune.
I know my brother's in-laws are both scamming the SSDI gravy train. His MIL uses a CPAP machine. They haven't paid their electric bill in ages. She claims they can't be cut off. She seems to be right.
Section 8 has good parts also. I had 20 section 8 units. I restricted each unit for elderly handicapped . All were 1 floor units and were kept in great condition by the Tennant with constant attention from the housing unit.
It was a very pleasant experience for myself ,county,and tenant.
And it introduces the risk that they cannot evict Section 8 tennants if they do not pay AND increases the risk that the property cannot be sold later due to damage or scaring would be buyers away.
They’ll just collect the vouchers for as long as possible and then walk away from the mortgage.
Sure, just wait until those homeowners have to file to get them evicted after they don’t pay their rent for six months and then find out everything including the kitchen sink has been stolen or destroyed. Sorry, no sympathy.
I think you’d be able to tell. :-|
Yep, and the water bill is usually a little bill, but forget and leave one hose running for 24 hours and watch what happens to it!
OMG, that’s got to be one of their tactics. They want people living in ghettos and they haven’t been able to trap the middle class into one yet. OTOH, nasty business like Katrina dispersed enormous ghettos into the rest of the population, as is now happening to Detroit (except there won’t be any urban renewal there). Not sure how that fits in, except as shock troops to invade the civilized enclaves. That makes sense.
Wife and I are both on CPAP. When I was a veteran’s career counselor for the state unemployment office, all 50 states trained in Denver. EVERY hotel room I ever saw of the other vet reps (stop by their room to change or get something after classes) had a CPAP machine in it!!
Tell me about it.
Once, just once, I rented to some low-life cretins. They opened up the water sprinklers in the middle of the winter. The water froze the underground pipes. Spring came. The sink hole in the back yard was the first clue. Then the water bill arrived! Never ever again.
They won't be fancy for long.
Do a drive through. Count the number of lawns that look like they are waiting for a government program and crew to clean them up. This should give you a base number.
There are way too many new and upper middle class neighborhoods in Florida where the overwhelming majortiy of residents are non-white, and, people have no cars (with no public transportation in the area). This Section 8 stuff has been happening a while
This begs my next question; who takes care of the yard work? I know in my neighborhood, if you have so much as a weed in your lawn, stand by your mailbox for a polite but stern letter from the HOA telling you to square your lawn away. I can't quite picture some welfare momma with her nine children pushing a lawn mower once a week. That looks too much like work.
I'm sure the lawns look like crap and the neighbors can go pound sand.
Why would you want to live in the PI? I hope you’re joking ‘cause that country is one of the most dysfunctional on earth, worse than Mexico. Anybody who has any brains/talent in the PI tries to leave.
Section 8 = ghetto
Remember! Harlem was built as LUXURY housing before a long- forgotten crash!
Okay, any idea what Singapore is like? I was stationed in Korea, twice, never been to the Philippines.
And a single mom to boot.
In my day, 9 kids would’ve meant a clean house, tidy lawn and all kinds of money coming in from their after-school jobs and small business ventures. Today it means loads of extra welfare cash, free day care, food stamps galore, tons of free commidity food and all kinds of other goodies.
Why don’t you ride through what used to be Cabrini Green or some other Section 8 housing and get back to me.
Nine kids and Sect 8? Must be fertility drugs. The two best fertility drugs in the US are WIC vouchers and EBT cards.
How much in taxpayer benefits does a single broodmare get for 9 kids? She must be clearing about $5000 a month minimum taking into account housing, food, transportation and medical. And if any or all of those kids is labled disabled, look out. $$$$$ (I think SS disability is $700 a child.)
I lived in a condo for almost a year and discovered after leasing the neighbors below were Section 8. I had to call the police on them twice for domestic violence. They drank heavily, didn’t have jobs, and had a broken down car in front. There was pretty much nothing the HOA could do.
I lived in another, very nice, upscale condo when the foreclosure crisis hit. I used to go to the pool and there’d be a couple sunbathers or a couple senior citizens. It was lovely. Then, some condos went Section 8. The pool became unusable. It was taken over by white trash and gangs, and things were starting to have graffiti on them. We got a German Shepherd.
We moved from the condo to a home in a gated community in an even more, very upscale area- one of the nicest. We were near a nice shopping plaza. In the planned development, there were condos in the center of the hub. Nearly every single week there was a police helicopter circling overhead. My neighbor commented that it was because the condos had gone Section 8. The grocery store’s ingress and egress had to be remodeled and the other stores were locking their doors during the day due to flash mobs. A house behind me that was vacant at least a year obviously went Section 8. I came close to calling the police twice. I think the HOA got rid of them. They were only there a couple months and trashed the $350000+ house. I kept my gun within arm’s reach always. I figured my Shepherd would give me time to get the safety off.
I now live in a guard gated community. We only had 6 burglaries in one week last month so that might be an improvement.
It would be better for the neighborhood if they just tore these houses down now , before the renters do it slowly over a year, and leave the garbage when they move to their next section 8 house.
Lol, you need to get a single home.
I’ve lived in the Philippines. Here’s my restrained reply- Do I ever want to go back? No. Try looking at Saipan. It’s fairly Westernized and just a protectorate.
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