Little Pavel Flies South for the Winter

Illinois Review ^ | Sept 11, 2012 A.D. | John F. Di Leo

[jfd1776]

Our young campaign volunteer learns how some homeowners steal votes in Florida…

Pavel Syerov, Jr was in the dining room, playing rummy with his little brother, Paco (his real name was Peter, but everyone called him Paco), when their dad called their attention to something on the internet.

“Have you heard about Wendy Rosen?” he asked his politically-interested son. “It’s all over the news…”

Pavel said he hadn’t.

“Well, she was a Democrat candidate for Congress, and she just dropped out of the race, less than two months before the election. “ His dad was quickly scanning the news for more about her, finding little. “Jan Schakowsky just did an event for her, too. Heh, heh… serves her right. Wasted a day on somebody who dropped out within a week. Cool.”

Pavel read the article, and decided it was time to pay a visit to his old friends at 51st Ward Party Headquarters. He checked his wallet so he could pick up some snacks on the way… and then he made sure he had some antacids in his pocket, just in case.

Continue reading at http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/2012/09/little-pavel-flies-south-for-the-winter.html

[Randy Larsen]

Everytime you post one of your bandwidth wasting rants is also theft of property YOU don’t own.

Got it Hummergummer?

[humblegunner]

Nope. Whole different deal.

I’m not directing Free Republic’s traffic to my blog to get hits.

I don’t expect you to see the difference, but it would likely
serve you well to shut the hell up about things you obviously
don’t understand at all.

At a minimum you would appear a bit less ignorant.

[Revolting cat!]

Or is this what they sometimes call incontinent content?

[Revolting cat!]

There are Communist/MSM sleepers here who would rather that you sent traffic to MSM than to a blog of a bona fide thinking conservative. Be Well!

[humblegunner]

There are Communist/MSM sleepers here

There are scummy bloggers here who would use Free Republic to steal hits for second-hand recycled MSM material.

If you have something to say, say it directly. Don't be so afraid.

[Revolting cat!]

You have no objections to directing traffic to MSM sites, even the most left wing ones, do you? Why is that?

You have bumped this thread you despise more times than the thread author, why is that?

A humble man would perhaps FReepmail the author behind the scenes, you sir, while accusing others of selfishly directing traffic to their blogs, selfishly bring attention to yourself.

Good day to you.

BUMP to the thread.

[humblegunner]

Well, I’m glad to see you at least found the courage to address me directly.

Next time, you need not go about muttering behind someone’s back like a weasel.

[Randy Larsen]

There’s another band wasting bump!

LOL!

Obviously...YOU don’t get it, Brainiac!

Shutting up just ain’t my style.

[marktwain]

It's not posted. It's excerpted. He's using us as advertising for his blog.

Allright, as you choose. Thank you jfd1776 for posting this excerpted article. I hope that it brings great attention to your blog, as it gives us much better content than many "mainstream" sources that are constantly excerpted.

[skepsel]

Thanks for posting, ignore the ill mannered schmuck harassing you, lot’s of us are tired of his self important act.

[jfd1776]

Good evening, all!

Many thanks for the support, Freepers!

Cheers,
JFD

[BlueMondaySkipper]

If you actually gave it any thought, you would see that you are advocating theft

Theft? THEFT??

So you even understand what that means?

To take your illogical and uninformed assertion to it's conclusion, it must be theft for someone to operate a hot dog cart next to a large office building. They must be "stealing" from the cafeteria. It must be theft to put up a sign next to a highway for your business. Sounds a lot like Obama: "You didn't build that"

It's one thing when the blog is simply a re-post of something in the news. Another entirely when it's original content.

Please explain to me exactly what has been "stolen" from FR when a Freeper clicks on a link to a blog post. Bandwidth? Electrons? How does that change if the article is posted in it's entirety?

[humblegunner]

Please explain to me exactly what has been "stolen" from FR

Advertising. Folks pay to keep this site running, not to provide free advertising for bloggers.

[editor-surveyor]

Just disregard Grumblegummer, his jealousy knows no bounds.

[BlueMondaySkipper]

Advertising. Folks pay to keep this site running, not to provide free advertising for bloggers.

Well, FR doesn't sell ads so there is nothing to be "stolen". I guess the only logical conclusion would be for the blogger to sue FR which would then mean that ONLY excerpts would be allowed.

Please explain in your infinite wisdom how excerpting a blog is different than excerpting a commercial site. How one is theft and the other, is not. Then try to square that with the FR position on excerpts vs. full content posts. There is much more validity in the argument that FR is "stealing" when we post content (or links) from commercial sites than there is that linking to a blog on FR is stealing from FR. Without that content (or links) there is no FR, and no donations coming on to support it.

[shibumi]

"Please explain in your infinite wisdom how excerpting a blog is different than excerpting a commercial site. How one is theft and the other, is not. Then try to square that with the FR position on excerpts vs. full content posts."

If I may, The first and most obvious difference is that with most commercial sites, the posting members on FR have identified some material of interest which they wish to share with their fellow FReepers. In the case of the blogger, for the most part, they are offering opinion pieces they have generated and are seeking an audience.

For many years (as you should know, given your sign up date) FR operated under the umbrella protection of "Fair Use" and all material was posted here in full. The excerpt feature was only installed to accommodate those news sources that decided to take an adversarial position regarding FreeRepublic. For a blogger to come here and seek to purposely drive traffic to his site, rather than fully share his content on FR is not the act of a FRiend.

The consensus opinion of FR and its manasgement can be found in Jim Robinson's statement on this subject (which includes guidelines for posting blogs) which can be found here.

If a blogger truly seeks exposure for his work, does it not make more sense to post all of that work here, where the traffic already is? In asking for this, we are not taking a position against the blogger, but rather complimenting him by asking that he share more of his content with the FR crowd.

The other reason for excerpting (which I am ~NOT~ saying is the case here) is that bloggers are excerpting material because they have plagiarized it. Yes, that happens here on a regular basis. A lot of that material ends up getting pulled before it is widely seen, but I can assure you, it does happen with unfortunate regularity.

"Without that content (or links) there is no FR, and no donations coming on to support it."

I do hope you're not seriously suggesting that FR could not exist without blogs.

[Larry Lucido]

If someone owns material and can share it in full on FR, but chooses instead to “tease” it with one-liners, that isn’t “sharing,” it’s spamming.

Nuff said.

[BlueMondaySkipper]

All of that is well and good. My point was that hunblegunner was calling it THEFT from FR and by saying that was calling the poster a thief.

Excerpting a blog may be wrong and not cool, and even against the rules here at FR, but that is entirely different than theft.

If posting a link to a blog is theft, then so is posting a link to a commercial site. Simple as that. Without links and content from other sites (commercial, blogs, et. al), FR does not exist as we rely very heavily on content from others.

I don't have a blog. If I did, and I wanted to share something with Freepers, I myself would post the article in it's entirety. I don't have an issue if others only post excerpts and I'm not nanny enough to police the internet. If an article intrigues me I read it. If it's an excerpt I make a decision as to whether I want to click the link to read the rest. I'm an adult and that's what adults do. If the poster is breaking the rules, the moderators can go ahead and remove the post and even ban the poster if they are habitual rule breakers. Calling them a thief is uncalled for in a civilized society.