Skip to comments.My View of Middle East from my experiences in the 70's
Posted on 09/14/2012 2:01:04 PM PDT by YihYthink
As a person that has spent three years in an out of Arab countries (1970's) that is the center of the present unrest I can say a few things with certainty.
First it helps radicalize local populations into believing that the West is working against them plus it puts enormous pressure on local populations to participate or be subject to scrutiny from fellow Muslims. Conformity is the rule within leadership of the Islamic Facist culture.
Second it puts pressure on the West to shut down any freedom of speech that a government might construe as anti-Islamic in nature. I'm not saying Western countries will abide by this yet the temptation of appeasement will be there. Unfortunately we are seeing the rise of Islamic fascism that is extremely well structured and is not random. Anyone that tells you this is not a war is fooling themselves and you that's my view.
It’s time to deploy the massive fuel/air bombs.
Groups who want power (The Brotherhood or PLO) whip up the population into a frenzy, they kick out their current rulers and replace them with the Brotherhood/Taliban/whoever and the population is still no better than they were.
Rinse, repeat, bloodbath etc etc
I’m reading the Bonhoeffer biography right now and this sounds eerily similar to the Nazis...only on a much BIGGER scale. Imagine that...
And Obama, Hitlary, et al, are aiding and abetting.
Quarantine will be the new Cold War strategy.
Drill here, drill now.
With the exception that during WWII we identified nazis as enemies and did not allow them to immigrate.
Today Congress gives this bloodthirsty ‘religion’ 1st Amendment protection and declares them a ROP while Christians in muslim countries have no rights at all.
Where has our logic and common sense gone?
Yeah, about 11 years ago.
Means nothing if they can soar over the fence.
The muslims *are* the nazis. Hassan al Banna. And before.
If you’re dropping FAE, it doesn’t necessarily have to be massive (if you’re talking physical size). The regulation 2,000 pounder works more than well.
And, yes.........FAE is ‘nice’.
Thanks for this insightful thread.
You wrote: “ - - - puts enormous pressure on local populations to participate or be subject to scrutiny from fellow Muslims.”
That got me to thinking that this would be a huge impediment to individual achievement in business, and selection of representatives for a Republic style of government. If so, then the USA Model would not be easily accepted in the Middle East.
Your absolutely right, think of it as religious statism, very hierarchical in nature one theme that I heard often when I was working in those countries was....... life is a test from God, you should not complain, be faithful and endure. God’s rewards comes in the afterlife for those who pass the test.
That really does not fit the Western model and for many good Muslims they want to be left alone we live in difficult times.
Islamic fascists see Western culture destroying a great religion decaying it from within, thus the war on the West.
Not hard to understand. They see us breaking what they view as God's laws, and reaping great wealth as a result. Their religion is as incompatible with the western world as Nazism and imperial Japan were. It's best we fight the world war early rather than wait 50 years until they might have enough weapons to win it or cause us far more damage and casualties in the process.
Newt just said the same thing about freedom of speech.
It is no accident that the embassy in Cairo issued a groveling statement, apologizing to the haters for having inconvenienced them with American freedom of speech.
The embassy was simply following Clintons lead, set months earlier in her meetings with the Organization of Islamic Cooperation.
The OIC has a long- term campaign to manipulate the U.S. government into defining any criticism or improper reference to Islam as unacceptable.
No one should be confused by this. As Andy McCarthy wrote yesterday, the Islamist definition of heresy would destroy American free speech.
And don’t forget Clinton’s ME girlfriend, whose family are big in the Muslim Brotherhood.
Sadly, unless we fight this war RIGHT NOW before they get too many more nukes and take out Pakistan FIRST, we lose.
Germany was one small central European land locked country with one language spoken nowhere else and a population of less than 70 million most of whom were NOT loyal to the Nazi party.
Islam is 1.5 billion people, which is 20% of the entire EARTH and growing every day that we flush our offspring down the drain with abortion, and has more than one million followers occupying every nation on the Earth.
When it comes, and it IS COMING, it will be short, brutal and we WILL LOSE.
And I believe, since the Bible says NOTHING about America, we have ALREADY LOST and are too stupid to have even noticed. We ARE the chicken with its head cut off and it is ONLY a matter of time... a few years... a few months.... at best.
If the chips are down in that manner, biowar will probably pop up, treaties or no treaties. A designer plague wiping out all sauds, for example, is child’s play. There are several other interesting points, some of which are not widely known and just coming into focus.
And worse and less discriminating things are already waiting in the wings.
“Sadly, unless we fight this war RIGHT NOW before they get too many more nukes and take out Pakistan FIRST, we lose.
I’m not a pessimist, first they have the feeling that they are losing to Western influence.
Second, in actual fact they are very fractured and often fight among themselves. They may make alliances with the basically distrust each other and this is a big weakness.
One reason you see this growth in radicalism is a direct result of the present administration withdrawing from the regions. Where there is a vacuum something will fill it.
We change who is running this country in the next election it is the first step towards minimizing radical Islam. There is no easy solution and cannot be done totally with military might so I see it is a long protracted war.
Lastly, most people want to be left alone that’s true over there. Our job is to foster a strong middle-class in many of these third world countries and you’ll see a lessening of tension and the grip of these radicals over time. That of course is no easy task and could go into the next century.
Pessimism is out for me but time will tell.
Islam is extremely brittle. Remove the core - like the kaaba and Mecca - and I suspect it will just shatter.
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