Posted on 09/14/2012 9:37:58 PM PDT by Steelfish
Zogby: Romney Running Worse Than McCain in ‘08 13 Sep 2012 David A. Patten
President Barack Obama received a surprisingly strong bounce after the Democratic National Convention, and now leads GOP challenger Mitt Romney by nearly 6 points according to a new JZ Analytics poll.
The national poll of likely voters shows Obama leading 47.7 percent to 42 percent, and indicates that Romney is not polling well enough among some conservative demographic groups: NASCAR fans, evangelicals, and the so-called “Walmart voters.”
According to JZ Analytics pollster John Zogby, Romney is in a somewhat worse position than GOP nominee Sen. John McCain was at this point in the 2008 campaign.
“Slightly worse, yes,” Zogby says. “But it’s also fair to say that he’s running against an incumbent who is not posting the greatest numbers in the world.”
Some conservative pundits contend Romney should have a substantial lead in light of the nation’s ongoing economic doldrums under Obama.
“That’s the question: Why isn’t Romney leading by 10 [points]?” Zogby says. “We can speculate on the answers, but that’s the right question.”
Zogby says Romney is not running as well as he should among certain voter segments. Romney leads Obama 53 to 37 percent among voters 65 and older, for example. But Zogby says “he’s going to have to do better” to win.
In a possible indication that Romney has yet to seal the deal with the GOP base, Zogby reports lackluster poll numbers among NASCAR voters, evangelicals, and frequent Walmart patrons -- groups that tend to be reliably conservative.
Romney leads Obama 48.4 to 44.6 percent among voters who shop weekly at Walmart. He narrowly trails Obama among self-identified NASCAR fans, 44 percent to 43 percent.
“That’s a number you would never expect to see,” comments Zogby.
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McCain actually “ran” in ‘08? I don't remember that at all. I do remember him constantly trying to make nice with the Democrats. Fired any staff who attempted to tell the truth about Obama. He essentially went into battle unarmed, except for Sarah Palin. Romney is not hitting back as hard as I would like, but he is 200% more in fight mode than McCain ever was (unless he was attacking his own party, of course and enjoying his “maverick” nickname). So, I really don't believe that McCain did better at this stage of the game than Romney. Romney is actually trying to win whereas McCain was not.
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"Zogby debunked. 2004 Record Worst Ever
Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2004 10:54:36 AM by soccer_linux_mozilla
Zogby debunked. 2004 Record Worst Ever
Here are the Zogby vs. real numbers. Done. De-mythed. 2000 was a fluke. He has no pulse on the nation.
Arizona Zogby had it +6% for Bush Final +11% for Bush
Arkansas Zogby had it +3% for Bush Final +9% for Bush
Colorado Zogby had it too close to call Final +7% for Bush
Florida Zogby had it +.1% for Kerry and trending Kerry Final +5% for Bush
Iowa Zogby had it +5% for Kerry Final still TBD
Michigan Zogby had it +6% for Kerry Final Result +3% for Kerry
Minnesota Zogby had it +6% for Kerry Final Result +3% for Kerry
Missouri Zogby had it +3% for Bush Final Result +8% for Bush
Nevada Zogby had it too close to call Final +3% for Bush
New Hampshire Zogby had it +5% for Kerry Final Result +1% for Kerry
New Mexico Zogby had it +3% for Kerry Final - still TBD
North Carolina Zogby had it +3% for Bush Final +13% for Bush
Oregon Zogby had it +10% for Kerry Final Result +5% for Kerry
Ohio Zogby had it +2% for Bush but trending Kerry Final TBD
Pennsylvania Zogby had it trending Kerry Final Result +3% for Kerry Tennessee Zogby had it +4% for Bush Final +14% for Bush
Virginia Zogby had it slight edge for Bush Final +8% for Bush
Washington Zogby had it +10% for Kerry Final Result +7% for Kerry
West Virginia Zogby had it +4% for Bush Final +14% for Bush
Wisconsin Zogby had it +6% for Kerry Final Result +1% for Kerry
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1270430/posts
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And
Our Call
Zogby International's 2004 Predictions
(as of Nov. 2, 2004 5:00pm EST)
2004 Presidential Election
Electoral Votes:
Bush
213
Kerry
311
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ZOGBY & OTHER BIG LOSERS!!!-- YOU ARE SO YESTERDAY, PAL!!!
Pollster (Zogby) picks Kerry - but Bush leads at 2pm (for the archives!)
Oh boy! I remember they were way off but....lol
Bookmarked for future reference on Zogby’s polls.
MSM’s become even more blatantly biased in favor of Obama and Democratic Party. Conservatives havn’t realised how serious a problem this is.
Correct. This is when McCain was still enjoying his post-Palin-pick bounce.
That evaporated by September 17, thanks to the MSM hit job, and Obama never looked back.
Romney has worse numbers than McCain had on this date, but McCain’s campaign was about to collapse. This time, it’s Obama’s bounce that’s starting to fade.
“Who is Zogby?”
He’s a confirmed Democrap.
Ignore the polls. There’s only one that matters and that’s not until November.
Wishful thinking, Mr. Muslim frontman.
If memory serves, Zogby’s brother is tied into CAIR or some spinoff islamic perpetually offended group. Since then the pollster guy has had a hard time finding work or publicity.
Zogby is a pollster who in the past has refused to release his definition and methodology to determine what is meant by “likely voter”.
Rasmussen, who uses a huge, (15000 interviewed) purely self-identification database, allows us to guess what other pollsters are doing.
With these numbers being close to those of NBC, Zogby has be over-sampling democrats in his likely voters methodology.
“He narrowly trails Obama among self-identified NASCAR fans, 44 percent to 43 percent.”
I think obama trails Romney self-identified NASCAR fans 95 percent to 0. Seriously, is this a real poll?
I need a better source.
All the reasons why Romney was the worst choice to run against Obama have been posted here for months.
Now is not the time.
November 7, we have to begin to pick up the pieces.
I can’t take it.
What a WARRIOR! LOL!
Snicker. Does he say that with a straight face. Of course. He is “one of them” just like Obama said “he was one of them” in perfect Arabic.
I have a newsflash for Zogby, they will all come around on voting day as will all the freepers who say they just won’t vote.
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