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KISS THE MIDDLE EAST GOOD BYE
boblonsberry.com ^ | 09/17/12 | Bob Lonsberry

Posted on 09/17/2012 6:46:59 AM PDT by shortstop

How about this.

How about we pack up and come home.

How about we tell them we’re not giving them another dime,

How about we tell them to go screw themselves.p

How about we leave them to live their Stone Age lives with their savage culture and their fanatic religion.p

We’ve been bankrolling and defending any number of Muslim nations over the last decade and where has it gotten us? Our ambassador is dead, our embassies are under attack and our “allies” are shooting us down.

It’s time to take the hint.

It’s time to give them the finger.

We’ve spent years trying to win their hearts and minds. It’s about time we realized they have neither.

It’s about time we realized it’s every man for himself, and America has got to take care of itself.

If they ever crawl out of the Dark Ages, maybe we can re-engage. Until then, to hell with them.

We have in recent days seen protests across scores of nations, people assailing our embassies and burning our flag. Shouting their support for a dead terrorist and waving aloft his flag. Nations we liberated and fund repay us with hatred and condemnation. Soldiers and police whom we have clothed, paid, trained and armed turn their guns upon us in acts of contempt and cowardice.

We have given them our blood and our treasure and they have given us the back of their hand.

And it’s time to cut them loose.

If the Russians or Chinese want to make allies of them, let them try. If we fear Iranian or Islamic expansion, what has anything we’ve yet done done to slow them? It’s all a perfect mess and it’s time to scrape it off the sole of our boots.

Seriously.

This isn’t invective and frustration. This is a policy proposal.

More likely, this is the will of the American people.

Cut the aid, pull the troops, stop the gravy train. Leave the sandbox to the cats.

No more foreign aid for any of them, pull our embassies out of half of them, wave good bye to most of them. We don’t need Afghanistan, Pakistan, Libya, Egypt or any of them. They are a noose around our neck and they want nothing more than to dance on our graves.

It is clear they don’t like us, and are never going to like us. It is clear our foreign policy elicits their contempt, not their respect. Let’s buy oil from the ones we have to buy oil from and ignore the rest. We don’t need them. They serve absolutely no useful purpose.

So kiss them good bye.

Let’s keep our homeland defenses strong, work even harder on intelligence, and do our best to keep them and their suicide vests on their own side of the ocean.

We tried. It didn’t work. Let’s write them off.


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KEYWORDS: 2012issues; bho44; bhomiddleeast; middleeast; muslims; obamalegacy; oil
Great idea, but do you think this is workable with the Muslim in the White House?
1 posted on 09/17/2012 6:47:06 AM PDT by shortstop
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To: shortstop

How about deporting ALL of the Muslim Imans and any known radicals from the U.S.


2 posted on 09/17/2012 6:50:05 AM PDT by xtinct (The will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will not protect you..Be Strong Patriots!)
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To: shortstop

The Russians and Chinese will have no problem becoming allies with the dictators in the middle east. They do not care about the human conditions there (i.e. people living under dictators), they are not traditional allies of Israel, the only State in the area with whom we share political ideals etc...

In fact, it’s probably accurate to say Iran, Libya and the others are as natural allies with Russia and China as we are with Israel.


3 posted on 09/17/2012 6:51:30 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act - 1984)
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To: shortstop
Let’s write them off.

Give Israel a free hand to a good portion of the ME for them to do as they please with it not limiting them to ridding the ME of every goat humping Arab over there.

4 posted on 09/17/2012 6:51:35 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: shortstop


5 posted on 09/17/2012 6:51:42 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
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To: shortstop

The western world needs to isolate itself from Islam. But, that is only possible by stopping them from immigrating and deporting known radicals. It will never happen. PC is king now.


6 posted on 09/17/2012 6:52:16 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: shortstop
Great idea, but do you think this is workable with the Muslim in the White House?

Okay, so we wait 4 months...

7 posted on 09/17/2012 6:53:49 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Sans-Culotte

We have all the oil and gas we need in the US for the rest of the century and we know how to get.


8 posted on 09/17/2012 6:54:53 AM PDT by AU72
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To: shortstop

Our commitment to the mideast should be limited to standing by to protect Israel and sharing the duty to protect oceangoing shipping through the region.

We don’t use that much mideast oil anyway and those who do can waste the lives of their own soldiers on it.


9 posted on 09/17/2012 6:55:04 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: shortstop

I’ve been saying that for what? 20 years?

But I’m a bit more radical. End all non-emergency foreign aid, and make all emergency foreign aid volutary by charitable donation. Want something from us? What’s in it for US? < /rant >


10 posted on 09/17/2012 6:55:13 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: bmwcyle

They will take out Saudi Arabia next..


11 posted on 09/17/2012 6:56:06 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: shortstop

It has been clear to me for a LONG time that everyone in The Middle East, except Israel, hated our guts and tolerated us only to take our money. It is probably just as well, because we are broke, and now Hussein (in typical muzzie fashion!) has gone out of his way to even alienate Israel!


12 posted on 09/17/2012 6:56:58 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ("Get that evil, foreign, muslim, usurping bastard out of MY White House!" FUBO GTFO!)
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To: shortstop

absolutely correct!
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Dianna West suggested bringing our troops home 2 years ago. sadly, many (including Freepers), misunderstood her, and criticised her then.
she was simply ahead of most...
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http://www.dianawest.net/Home/tabid/36/EntryId/1050/-Losing-Our-Way-to-Victory.aspx


13 posted on 09/17/2012 6:57:33 AM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: shortstop

You can lead people to freedom, but you can’t make them free.

Civilization and civilized would work in that sentence also.


14 posted on 09/17/2012 6:57:33 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: EGPWS
Give Israel a free hand to a good portion of the ME for them to do as they please with it not limiting them to ridding the ME of every goat humping Arab over there.

I'd definitely stand aside and let Israel retake the Sinai right up to the Suez canal.
15 posted on 09/17/2012 7:00:31 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: shortstop

As long as we need imported oil, we’ll be involved whether we like it or not. Our economy can’t handle $150/bbl oil or higher. American families are under economic attack.

Walking away sounds good but as long as we’re financing the Middle East and terrorism through oil purchases, we don’t have a choice. If we pursued a national strategy of using natural gas for vehicle fuel, it wouldn’t be long before the drop in demand for oil would transfer the financial problems to the Middle East.


16 posted on 09/17/2012 7:03:14 AM PDT by meatloaf (Support Senate S 1863 & House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: shortstop

Where’s the goofy picture of Obama saying “Did I do that?”


17 posted on 09/17/2012 7:04:09 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: xtinct

It’s for sure we need immigration reform


18 posted on 09/17/2012 7:05:04 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: meatloaf

19 posted on 09/17/2012 7:05:48 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: bmwcyle

Book of Revelations ping??


20 posted on 09/17/2012 7:05:53 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: shortstop

Yep, and kick the ones here OUT.


21 posted on 09/17/2012 7:06:30 AM PDT by Qwackertoo (Romney/Ryan 2012 The Future of Our Children and Their Children are at stake.)
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To: shortstop

Lonsberry in Rochester radio NY!

The originator of FUBO!

sooner and/or l8r things are gonna get bad enough to where the the good guys are gonna reveal themselves....and listen to the little people vs the bigmouth geniuses !!!!!


22 posted on 09/17/2012 7:07:04 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: AU72

But we can’t get to it and use it effectively here.... unless or until we dismantle the EPA, which, along with the current Democrat Party.... represents America’s “enemy within”.


23 posted on 09/17/2012 7:11:04 AM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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To: shortstop

Israel?


24 posted on 09/17/2012 7:13:07 AM PDT by daniel boob
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To: listenhillary
Then there's onshore natural gas. (Great lakes are also off limits to drilling)

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25 posted on 09/17/2012 7:15:17 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: dalebert

Saudi Arabia is the pulling strings. Don’t fool yourself, they are in the funding up to their ears.


26 posted on 09/17/2012 7:16:03 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
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To: JimRed
But I’m a bit more radical.

It's pretty easy to foretell the future. All we have to do is look back at Jimmy Carter and the Shah of Iran.

27 posted on 09/17/2012 7:17:08 AM PDT by radioone ( Main Stream Media. The Government built that.)
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To: shortstop

Yes, we have let the cancer of Islam invade our nation. Contrary to the Muslim sympathizer in the White House, they had nothing to do with the founding of this country, do not understand or want our freedoms, and will never assimilate as they wait for the day when they can take over and rule the USA according to Sharia law and the Koran.

They all must go back to their Muslim countries and try to change them enough to have the good life they’ve had in the USA. Good luck on that, “moderate” Muslims. Your heads will roll before any reform of your 7th century religion will take hold.


28 posted on 09/17/2012 7:23:44 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: meatloaf
another problem is the fact that several of these Islamic countries sit on sea lanes and can therefore be choke points. We can certainly escort ships through these or seize territory for “protective bases” to project power. Much like was done by the Dutch, French , Spanish & English in the 1600s.

Because of this we will never be completely clear of them.

29 posted on 09/17/2012 7:24:44 AM PDT by Reily (l)
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To: shortstop

We can’t leave just yet because Obama’s going to need a place to live once he’s kicked out of office.its too bad we can’t just send him into exhile like the French did with Napoleon.


30 posted on 09/17/2012 7:24:44 AM PDT by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: shortstop

Another notch in Obama’s “anti-colonial” belt.

His goal is to reduce America’s influence and standing in the world.


31 posted on 09/17/2012 7:25:07 AM PDT by G Larry (Progressives are Regressive because their objectives devolve to the lowest common denominator.)
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To: listenhillary

Drilling for natural gas on the mainland hasn’t stopped. We’ve got more gas than we can use and more coming.


32 posted on 09/17/2012 7:34:32 AM PDT by meatloaf (Support Senate S 1863 & House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: listenhillary

80% must be by land are. Because when you look at the Bbl and Tcf, It looks like the really big fields are being developed and the rest doesn’t amount to diddly squat.


33 posted on 09/17/2012 7:59:11 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: xtinct
Amen...deport the Muslim radicals and keep all Muslims from immigrating into the United States. What does it take before the “wise men” in Washington realize that it is not the “religion of peace” and it is not just a “tiny number of extremists”. Islam is not a moderate ideology. There may be some Muslims who are moderate people but Islam itself is extremist and has been from the beginning.

American companies should be out of the Muslim world as well because they are just endangering the lives of their American employees who sometimes have to travel on business to these very dangerous parts of the world. Muslims are barbarians with an irrational ideology that defends their barbarism as if it was something holy and we should not be putting our citizens within harm's way by sending them to these danger zones against their will.

Take American money out of the Muslim world, take American business out of the Muslim world and let them go back to their dark age economies without electricity, computers and modern travel. No food assistance and no modern medicine either, treat them as the enemy. You do not feed the enemy. Withdrawing assistance from our enemies will send a strong message to the rest of the third world—if you want the goodies from the United States, you had better act like a friend of the United States. Do not appease Muslims, they have been our enemies for 1400 years!

34 posted on 09/17/2012 8:09:03 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: shortstop

But...but...we have to fight them over there so we don’t have to fight them over here. /impersonation of a prominent FR argument


35 posted on 09/17/2012 8:09:14 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

As far as I can tell, no muslim nations have the capability of reaching us here without our help.


36 posted on 09/17/2012 8:17:36 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: bmwcyle

“Saudi Arabia is the pulling strings. Don’t fool yourself, they are in the funding up to their ears.”

Since our country has had no effective energy policy for over 45 years, or, the policy seems to be keep buying Arab Oil, every elected official in DC must be getting a wwekly check from the Saudi King.

It’s the same with the drug war. There is more money for graft, payoffs and coruption by keeping drugs illegal. But I digress.


37 posted on 09/17/2012 8:18:16 AM PDT by Artie (We are surrounded by MORONS)
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To: meatloaf

You’re right on the money.


38 posted on 09/17/2012 8:21:30 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: listenhillary
You can lead people to freedom, but you can’t make them free.

It is easier to teach a goat to surf than to lead them to water and make them drink

(applies to also to sheeple )


39 posted on 09/17/2012 8:28:06 AM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: xtinct

“How about deporting ALL of the Muslim Imans and any known radicals from the U.S.”

Won’t do. What you’re suggesting is removing the cadre of senior officers (of Islam), but the *troops* will still be here, still under the thrall and control of their highest leader.

Stop and think for a moment — just who *are* “the foot soldiers of Islam”? (even if they may not be “on active duty” at any given moment)
And who is “their leader”?
And what is their “field manual of operations”?

Hint: their leader is not anyone alive. In fact, he’s been dead for 1,400 years. But he remains “in control”, through his manual of instructions which keeps the soldiers of Islam under his thumb.

Let’s put this another way — a way even Bob Lonsberry is afraid to talk about.

Assume that your body shows a tumor within. Upon examination, the physician advises you that the clump of cells could be cancer, but at the moment do not appear to be malignant. Nevertheless, they are there.

What do you do about this?

Do you take the “diverse” approach, and deem “all cells equal”, equally deserving of life within your body?

Or, do you realize that at any time, the unwelcome cells could metastasize within, and grow with the potential to destroy you?

What do you do about this?

The West faces this very dilemma.

What will it do?
Based on The West’s behavior over the last eleven years, what’s the prognosis?


40 posted on 09/17/2012 8:35:02 AM PDT by Road Glide
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To: Artie

The Bush family has been close to that country of crooks for years.


41 posted on 09/17/2012 8:36:42 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
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To: listenhillary

And those two coasts probably use the most oil of all of flyover country. They have the ‘not in my backyard’ attitude. I wouldn’t care if they drilled for oil in my backyard! I would just put white Christmas lights on it and celebrate! Maybe even start a reality show called “Mailbox Money”. /s


42 posted on 09/17/2012 8:42:00 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: cradle of freedom; meatloaf

I see nat gas as the future, but it will take many, many years to build the refining-fueling infrastructure, vehicles etc to make it happen. We have to get rid of the damned EPA and DOE, first. Then, the Saudis etc and Venezuela can go eat used kitty litter.


43 posted on 09/17/2012 9:58:04 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Liberals, democrats & unions - and all leftist scum - are like bacteria: attack, attack, attack!)
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To: carriage_hill

It won’t take that long. Refueling equipement is already being installed in a lot of truck stops. Last year 44% of the garbage trucks ordered were speced for natural gas. Congress could speec the process through Senate S 1863 & House Bill 1380.

With the exception of the compressors, the infrastructure meaning the pipelines is already there. Offering tax credits would make it feasible for many more families to install a home compressor for overnight refueling.


44 posted on 09/17/2012 10:08:47 AM PDT by meatloaf (Support to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: meatloaf

Thanks; I didn’t know it’d progressed that far.

What about auto mfgrs? Can internal combustion engines be readily-modified or will all-new engines and vehicles be needed? Gas stations? Will they become obsolete?

Sorry for all the questions. Do you have a URL which explains all the fundamentals & intricacies of this nat’l nat gas conversion?

I just became convinced of nat gas over the weekend, after these ME riots etc - yeah, I know I’m late to the party - that it’s the future for us and the West.


45 posted on 09/17/2012 10:25:15 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Liberals, democrats & unions - and all leftist scum - are like bacteria: attack, attack, attack!)
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To: shortstop

They’ll still come, and we’ll still have to kill them eventually, or surrender and BE killed.


46 posted on 09/17/2012 10:28:49 AM PDT by tomkat (this Nation needs a testosterone injection STAT !)
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To: carriage_hill

I know nothing about motor vehicles, could you tell me if truck engines or automobile engines for that matter, can be easily adapted to liquified natural gas? Would it be necessary to make changes in the engines? I have heard T. Boone Pickens on the radio talking about putting the country’s trucks on LNG.


47 posted on 09/17/2012 1:55:48 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: cradle of freedom

Here’s what I found so far. Cost in 4th paragraph:

http://www.truckertotrucker.com/blog/lng-trucks/

I’m still poking around; if I find something more concrete, I’ll copy you on it.


48 posted on 09/17/2012 2:41:02 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Liberals, democrats & unions - and all leftist scum - are like bacteria: attack, attack, attack!)
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To: cradle of freedom

This doesn’t bode well:

http://www.greencar.com/articles/can-convert-natural-gas.php


49 posted on 09/17/2012 2:45:29 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Liberals, democrats & unions - and all leftist scum - are like bacteria: attack, attack, attack!)
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To: shortstop
"If the Russians or Chinese want to make allies of them, let them try."

Abso-frickin-lutely.

50 posted on 09/17/2012 2:49:29 PM PDT by moehoward
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