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Black Christians See No Clear Options Between Obama, Romney
Christian Post ^ | 09/17/2012 | Paul Stanley

Posted on 09/18/2012 11:02:02 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

With just 50 days until Americans go to the polls to select their next president, many black Christians find themselves in somewhat of an unusual predicament. Their choice is between reelecting a president who embraces same-sex marriage or a former governor whose religion practiced racial discrimination longer than most of the once segregated South. It may cause some to exercise a third and formerly unthinkable choice of sitting at home on Nov. 7.

Many political pundits never imagined that some black voters would even consider not supporting President Obama this year. After all, he is the nation's first African-American president and he received somewhere in the neighborhood of 95 percent of the black vote in 2008.

Irrespective of the debate on whether most blacks are better off now than they were four years ago, few would want to see their race's first elected president not earn a second term and fall into the category of Presidents George H.W. Bush and Jimmy Carter.

But black Christians have more to consider this election cycle.

On the front burner is President Obama's surprise announcement in late May that he now supports same-sex marriage. While he solidified his support among liberals, many black voters viewed the issue in a different light. Even more so than some traditionally white conservative denominations such as the Southern Baptist Convention, predominately black churches have long held that homosexuality and specifically same-sex marriage, is a sin.

Plus, the language that gay activists use in comparing the fight for what they term "marriage equality" to the struggle for civil rights in the 1950s and 60s is insulting to many who marched along Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. in Selma and other places.

"Using the civil rights struggle to promote the sexual appetites of the homosexual agenda is an affront to the dignity of black people," Dr. J.M. Hunter of told The Christian Post. "No other group in America has had to suffer the wicked injustices as did African blacks who were forced to provide hard labor with no compensation, and their American descendants."

However, the alternative doesn't make them feel any better. Four years ago, some may could have held their nose and voted for a war hero like Sen. John McCain, but Mitt Romney's Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints may be just as big an issue as Obama's stance on same-sex marriage.

Mormons supported racial discrimination for over a century and would not allow blacks to become a priest until changing their position in 1978. Romney, who had disagreed with the church's policy, said he cried when he heard the news. The church has since condemned racial discrimination.

"To say you have a value for human life and exclude African-American human life, that's problematic," the Rev. A.R. Bernard, founder of the predominantly African-American Christian Cultural Center in New York, told The Associated Press about the priesthood ban. "How can I judge the degree to which candidate Romney is going to allow his Mormonism to influence his policies? I don't know. I can't."

Yet the racial aspect may not supersede the fact that many Christians, including black Christians, do consider Mormonism to be part of orthodox Christianity. However, Southern Baptist leaders such as Dr. Richard Land who heads the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, have reminded Christians that they are not voting for theologian-in-chief, but rather for president of the United States and should evaluate the lifestyle and actions of a candidate and not simply vote on race or what religion they subscribe to.

"John F. Kennedy never defended Catholicism but rather the right of a Catholic to run for president," Land has often said. "That is the same argument Gov. Romney should be making."

During the Democratic National Convention in Charlotte two weeks ago, a group of black clergy calling themselves the Coalition of African-American Pastors held another in a series of press conferences to call on black Christians to withhold their support from President Obama until at a minimum, he agrees to meet with the group to justify his support for same-sex marriage.

Asked if the White House has answered his initial request for the meeting first made in mid-summer, the group's leader, the Rev. Bill Owens, was quick to reply. "Not a word, not a single word," he told a group of reporters in Charlotte.

Owens, who marched for civil rights in Nashville and Memphis in the 1960s said he believes the Democratic Party has taken the black vote for granted and that the National Association for the Advancement of Color People is simply just a puppet of Democratic Party leaders.

"At a minimum black Christians should think for themselves and vote for the person that best represents their beliefs," said Owens. "We have more problems than any other group and here we are taking about gay marriage. It is ridiculous."

But when the group of ministers was asked if they were endorsing Romney, all eight men and the one woman gathered at the podium shook their heads "no" in unison. "I'm not voting for no Mitt Romney," one pastor said. "We don't have time to be playing with God's house," said another minister at the press conference. "All I can say is every person, every black Christian needs to hit their knees and ask God for guidance on this issue and that doesn't just mean reading a ballot some political party hands you," he said.


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KEYWORDS: blacks; christians; obama; romney

1 posted on 09/18/2012 11:02:07 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
or a former governor whose religion practiced racial discrimination longer than most of the once segregated South.

Gee. So the black "Christians" who this reporter interviewed don't like Romney because of something his religion did historically? Where to start?

First, this is just plain bigotry to vote against someone because of their religion.

Second, Obama's political party practiced a Hell of a lot more racial discrimination in the South -- including forming the KKK as the terrorist wing of the Dem Party to murder and terrorize blacks who voted -- than the Mormons ever did.

Third, what isn't said is that these people really want to vote for Obama because he is black, period. But they are troubled by it because his positions are so anti-Christian.

2 posted on 09/18/2012 11:06:24 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: SeekAndFind
"At a minimum black Christians should think for themselves and vote for the person that best represents their beliefs," said Owens." leading from behind!
3 posted on 09/18/2012 11:06:52 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Wealth = Net Worth ///// Income = Net Work)
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To: SeekAndFind

No clear option? Then stay home.


4 posted on 09/18/2012 11:08:35 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Black Christians See No Clear Options Between Obama, Romney
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White Christians dont either...


5 posted on 09/18/2012 11:09:03 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
You miss the point ~ they think God told them to beware of false prophets ~ with false doctrines.

So, they are in a dilemma.

Evangelical voters have been known to just not vote ~ they did it to Pappy Bush ~ of course he also showed disdain for the Republican rank and file anyway.

HE LOST

6 posted on 09/18/2012 11:12:41 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SeekAndFind

Mixed feelings. Obviously I want the GOP nominee to get every possible vote, and I hope that a few percentage points of the black electorate turns out for him.

But I’m realistic. I can’t be too “disappointed” when the same portion of the electorate that went 88% for Kerry ‘04 and 95% for Obama ‘08, again votes 90%+ for Obama. I don’t care what color anyone is ... but an awful lot of black voters appear TO care what color the CANDIDATES are.


7 posted on 09/18/2012 11:13:34 AM PDT by pogo101
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To: Tennessee Nana

Brilliant. Four more years of decline seems appropriate to me. Lets teach those Republicans a lesson.


8 posted on 09/18/2012 11:17:47 AM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: SeekAndFind
So maybe Black Christians could ask:

Which candidate promotes the Christian principle of fiscal responsibility and living within one's means?

Which candidate promotes the anti-Christian view that one may take by force from his more fortunate neighbor? Or the corollary that successful people deserve derision and punishment?

Which candidate is on YouTube mocking the Christian Bible?

Which candidate is outspokenly and unabashedly in favor of death to the unborn?

Which candidate observes Muslim holidays rather than Christian holidays?

I can think of more, but any Christian minister should do better than I, regardless of the color of their skin.

9 posted on 09/18/2012 11:21:17 AM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

A few more things the Democrat Party has done for blacks: Slavery. The Confederate States of America. The Ku Klux Klan. Jim Crow and Gun Control. Yup, can’t see any difference, can they?


10 posted on 09/18/2012 11:21:26 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Where to start indeed.
Historically - so 1978 is so historically - ok.
So then you find it also reprehensible that people may not vote of obama because he is islamic.
mormonism is not Christianity that is what Christians have a problem with, the ignorant public trying to equate them.
And oh the whole “he cried” when the lds god changed his mind about black people, because he did not like the lds god’s policy. Except that even being in the hierarchy of the SLC lds corporation the Romney family did nothing to change it.
Oh I find it interesting you write about the KKK terrorizing black folk and quickly add mormons never did that, you are correct they terrorized everyone.


11 posted on 09/18/2012 11:22:02 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

great post!
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i like to believe, that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.,
a Republican, would not vote for the party that booed God,
just because of the color of their candidates skin.
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liberals boo God... and defend Allah.


12 posted on 09/18/2012 11:23:10 AM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Wait for it 1, 2, 3, 4.........Nana you want obama to win, you troll get off FR, you bigot, mormons are to Christians,...............get ready the mormonism defenders are thick these days. (more ways than not)


13 posted on 09/18/2012 11:26:57 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: svcw

“Except that even being in the hierarchy of the SLC lds corporation the Romney family did nothing to change it.”

You should read the 1978 order and read the 3 signatories, Marion G. Romney is Mitt’s dad’s cousin

http://www.lds.org/scriptures/dc-testament/od/2?lang=eng

...just one of the many facts the MSM would rather not have African Americans find out about.


14 posted on 09/18/2012 11:44:20 AM PDT by Rameumptom (Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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To: RoosterRedux

To my Black Baptist Friends—I will make the difference clear to you with two words to ponder: Gay Marriage.


15 posted on 09/18/2012 11:50:43 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Rameumptom

I can see how signing a piece of paper, the Romney family (second cousin) was really in there demanding change on one of the very foundations of mormonism, better late than never, I guess.
The Romney family was part of the foundational group, some of them in gangs of twelve, live prophets - just saying.


16 posted on 09/18/2012 11:50:43 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: SeekAndFind

So what is happening on Wednesday November 7th?


17 posted on 09/18/2012 11:52:37 AM PDT by Foolsgold (L I B Lacking in Brains)
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To: SeekAndFind

Racism like this is so ugly.

Does it qualify for a thread to be pulled?

< / sarc >


18 posted on 09/18/2012 11:54:46 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (You didn't build that. The private sector is doing fine. We tried our plan and it worked.)
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To: Rameumptom

Not that it might matter to you, don’t know.

Marion Romney’s teachings on worldS, and the ignorance of Christians (Jan 1973)

“As to man’s relationship to God, Joseph learned from a revelation that the inhabitants of ‘the worlds’ (including those of us on this earth) ‘are begotten sons and daughters unto God.’ (D&C 76:24.)

“These fundamental truths concerning God and man’s relationship to him were not being taught by the churches of Joseph Smith’s day, for the obvious reason that they were neither known nor believed. It is true that they were known and taught and believed by members of the church of Christ in the days of Jesus and his apostles. But in 1830 an understanding of them had long since been lost. It was ignorance of a true knowledge of God and man’s relationship to him that spawned the many churches.

Yep, they beleive it.


19 posted on 09/18/2012 12:08:17 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

RE: To my Black Baptist Friends—I will make the difference clear to you with two words to ponder: Gay Marriage.

Let me add to that — REFUSAL TO PROTECT A BABY BORN ALIVE FROM BOTCHED ABORTIONS.


20 posted on 09/18/2012 12:20:29 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: LucianOfSamasota
So maybe Black Christians could ask:
And last, but certainly not least, Who was the first major political party to BOO G-D? Something ALL thinking Christian and Jews should consider.
21 posted on 09/18/2012 12:59:30 PM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, then, by all means have them, as good Christians, vote for the man who officially supported the killing of children born “by accident.”


22 posted on 09/18/2012 2:18:32 PM PDT by DPMD
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To: SeekAndFind

Black Christians See No Clear Options Between Obama, Romney

Then you really ain’t looking!


23 posted on 09/18/2012 2:24:52 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: SeekAndFind

I have never understood why the Blacks vote for people that love to abort Black babies....It must be insanity. Democrats are not their friends.


24 posted on 09/18/2012 3:56:09 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

Black Chistians didn’t seem to mind voting for a man who supported murdering babies in the womb.


25 posted on 09/18/2012 4:14:30 PM PDT by freepertoo
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To: RoosterRedux
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Hey there folks ...


Greetings from a "white caucasian" Evangelical Christian Tea Party Patriot ...

Just like my African-American Christian colleagues who see no major difference between "Zero" and the "Celestial God-Child from Planet Kolob in the Constellation Cancer" ...

I also will NOT be voting for either Presidential candidate in the 2012 election ...



Why ?



Because, as we all know (but some are afraid to even think) ...

Myth Romney and Barrack Obama ... BOTH ...

1) have signed Socialist Health Care into LAW ...

2) support Gay Marriage and Gay Adoption (code for Barney Frank's sodomizing adopted little boys) ...

3) REFUSED to serve in America's military ...

4) DENY the supreme diety of Jesus Christ ...

5) HONOR men who either were named Mohammed or else (in Joseph Smith's case) called himself the "Second Mohammed" bent on the violent destruction of Christianity ...



Hey Folks, that's enough for me ...



P.S. Myth Romney ... unlike Obama ... actually believes that he'll be a DIVINE GOD someday ... equal to Jesus Christ ...




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26 posted on 09/18/2012 4:28:51 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin will DEFEAT the Obama-Romney Socialist Gay-Marriage Axis of Evil)
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To: Patton@Bastogne
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My "sincere" apologies ...


BOTH "President Zero" and "Myth from Planet Kolob" have CLEARLY and PROUDLY DECLARED in their political careers ...

that they are BOTH ... Pro-Abortion ...

How could I forget that ?



My apologies to the innocent children "slaughtered like dogs" ... paid for by Romney-Care ...



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27 posted on 09/18/2012 4:33:43 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin will DEFEAT the Obama-Romney Socialist Gay-Marriage Axis of Evil)
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