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California`s illegitimate 55 electoral college votes!
9/23/2012 | johnwk

Posted on 09/23/2012 1:57:55 PM PDT by JOHN W K

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To: JOHN W K

This is going to blow up in your face when you see how low the per capita is in the Southern states.


21 posted on 09/23/2012 3:19:34 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: JOHN W K

who cares.. won’t the winner of the popular vote them anyways?

If Zero wins the pop vote CA won’t matter.

If Mitt wins the pop vote CA will only help until Zero runs to the courts to fight over it.


22 posted on 09/23/2012 3:25:03 PM PDT by cableguymn (peace through strength. if they don't like you at least they will fear you.)
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To: JOHN W K

apparently you don’t like our Constitution which specifies how the electoral college works. ANy effort to move to popular vote or weaken the EC will no doubt end in a democracy rather than a republic. You can rant all you want but the Constitution is clear. Get over it


23 posted on 09/23/2012 3:25:54 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Dr. Sivana

and house reps are based on population....


24 posted on 09/23/2012 3:27:08 PM PDT by Nifster
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and house reps are based on population....

Yup. That's why I said indirectly. The system does give a slight edge to less populated states.
25 posted on 09/23/2012 3:47:42 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I have a new zest for life!"--Calvin from Las Vegas)
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To: knarf
The electoral college is based on the number of Congressmen plus the two senators of each state. The number of Congressmen is based on population. Taxes have nothing to do with the electoral college.
26 posted on 09/23/2012 4:22:55 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: centurion316
Who knew?

Nobody knew, because it is false. Read Article II Section 1.

27 posted on 09/23/2012 4:25:02 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: centurion316
What I’m pointing out is Wyoming citizens paid $1,574,892,667 per electoral college vote. And since California gets 17 times Wyoming`s electoral college vote, by the intentions for which the rule of apportionment was adopted it is required to pay a total of 17 times what Wyoming paid in federal taxes which turns out to be a little less than $5 TRILLION which California has not paid, but rather, has only paid $313,998,874,000.

JWK

The liberty to fail or succeed at one’s own hand is a PROGRESSIVE‘S nightmare and not the American Dream

28 posted on 09/23/2012 4:53:13 PM PDT by JOHN W K
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To: muawiyah

Unfortunately USCB doesn’t ask respondents whether they’re here legally or not.


29 posted on 09/23/2012 4:54:20 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: donmeaker
The 16th Amendment has nothing to do with “direct taxes” nor repeals the constitutional command that No Capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the Census or Enumeration herein before directed to be taken.

I might add, our very own Supreme Court has confirmed direct taxes are still required to be apportioned! See EISNER v. MACOMBER , 252 U.S. 189 (1920), decided after the 16th Amendment’s adoption. The Court states with regard to the 16th Amendment and apportionment:

‘a proper regard for its genesis, as well as its very clear language, requires also that this amendment shall not be extended by loose construction, so as to repeal or modify, except as applied to income, those provisions of the Constitution that require an apportionment according to population for direct taxes upon property, real and personal, this limitation still has an appropriate and important function, and is not to be overridden by Congress or disregarded by the courts.”

And nine years after the above case, the court again pointed out “As the present tax is not apportioned, it is forbidden, if direct.” ___ BROMLEY v. MCCAUGHN, 280 U.S. 124 (1929)

JWK

They are not “liberals”. They are conniving Marxist parasites who use the cloak of government force to steal the profits, gains and income which wage earners, business and investors have worked to create

30 posted on 09/23/2012 4:58:30 PM PDT by JOHN W K
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To: JOHN W K
What I’m pointing out is Wyoming citizens paid $1,574,892,667 per electoral college vote

I understand what you are pointing out, but you are quite wrong to claim that per capita taxation was the intention of apportionment. It's a wacko notion, but there are many such wacko arguments put forward on this forum, it's part of the fun of it.

To take your argument one step further, taxes paid could be converted into shares with more shares going to those who paid the most taxes and zero shares to those who pay no taxes. Each voter would then get the number of votes corresponding to his or her number of shares. It would do away with the whole notion of "one man, one vote", but what the hey!

31 posted on 09/23/2012 5:07:18 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: JOHN W K

Add to everything else the fact that Congressional seats are assigned by *total* population...US citizens,Green Card holders *and* wetbacks.And given that at least a third of the states total population are wetbacks....


32 posted on 09/23/2012 5:26:12 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive!)
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To: JOHN W K

But Tariffs are not direct taxes, nor are income taxes. Nor are fees, nor are excise taxes.


33 posted on 09/23/2012 5:34:31 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: JOHN W K

Go back to grammer school, you didn’t pay attention!


34 posted on 09/23/2012 5:39:05 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: andyk

Income tax is not a direct tax. Only taxes on per head basis, on real property, or on personal property are direct taxes.

Income tax is on the transaction of gaining income, and so can be avoided.


35 posted on 09/23/2012 5:39:10 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

that’s what I thought.


36 posted on 09/23/2012 5:56:48 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: centurion316
See APPORTIONMENT OF A DIRECT TAX TO RAISE A TOTAL OF $ 2 MILLION TREASURY DEPARTMENT MAY 25TH 1798 the state totals are given. JWK
37 posted on 09/23/2012 7:09:54 PM PDT by JOHN W K
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To: Dr. Sivana

but this idiots blog is clearly an anti constitution screed


38 posted on 09/23/2012 7:10:27 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: JOHN W K
BTW, let me correct my above error about the $5 TRILLION figure.

WY paid per capita $9036.74

CA paid per capita $8590.18

CA paid $ 446.56 less per capita than WY

Dropping the change and multiplying the $ 446.00 to CA’s population size gives us a $22,902,733,890 short fall per capita

CA should have paid $ 336,901,607,890, but only paid $313,998,874,000

JWK

39 posted on 09/23/2012 10:48:01 PM PDT by JOHN W K
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To: donmeaker
It is a direct tax. Can it be avoided other than not pursuing the natural right to work?

It's the 16th amendment that makes it an indirect tax. Hard to believe that an exchange of time and labor results in a gain of income, as you submit.
40 posted on 09/24/2012 12:08:05 AM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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