Skip to comments.New Orleans’ Anti-Christian Ordinance Challenged
Posted on 09/25/2012 7:20:06 AM PDT by WXRGina
Jesus told us that no one knows the hour or the day of His return, but that we will be able to look around and see that the end is near by the state of the world. One of the signs of the end will be a great apostasy, or falling away, as Paul calls it in 2 Thessalonians, where he warns believers not to be deceived by anyone claiming that the Day of the Lord has come, because when the Day of the Lord comes, everyone will know it without question.
We are certainly seeing a great falling away from the truth of Gods revealed Word to mankindin churches as well as in the culture at largealthough Satan has worked tirelessly from the beginning to pervert Gods truth. We now have daily stories of Christian persecution, not in faraway countries where it has long been commonplace, but right here in the United States, which was once, as a nation, a strong supporter of Christian principles.
One of the latest stories of Christian persecution and the trampling of our God-given rights to freedom of speech and religion comes out of New Orleans, Louisiana. A year ago, almost to the day, New Orleans amended the city code to prohibit certain types of aggressive solicitation, specifically in the French Quarter on Bourbon and Royal Streets between sundown and sunrisethe hours in which demonic joy is at a fever pitch in the Big Easy (I have been there; I know this).
Most of the legislation is devoted to defining aggressive solicitation and the places where it is prohibited. Aggressive solicitation is defined, in part, as:
disturbing and disruptive to residents and businesses and contributes to the loss of access to and enjoyment of public places and to a sense of fear, intimidation and disorder.
Aggressive solicitation may include approaching or following pedestrians, repetitive soliciting despite refusals, the use of abusive or profane language to cause fear and intimidation, unwanted physical contact, or the intentional blocking of pedestrian and vehicular traffic.
Well, that sounds reasonable, doesnt it? Who wants to be stalked, touched and abused with profanity? Most places already have laws against such types of physical and verbal harassment, so is this really about this kind of aggressive solicitation? No, its not.
The key of the legislation is found near the end, in this clause:
It shall be prohibited for any person or group of persons to loiter or congregate on Bourbon Street for the purpose of disseminating any social, political or religious message between the hours of sunset and sunrise.
Here is the real reason for this ordinance enacted under former Lieutenant Governor of Louisiana, now current Democrat Mayor of New Orleans, Mitch Landrieu, the brother of Democrat Senator Mary Louisiana Purchase Landrieu (who was bribed with $300 million to change her opposition to the wicked Obamacare legislation to support for it). This is about opposition to the spreading of the Good News of salvation through Jesus Christas well as the social and political aspects of the Christian worldviewon the streets of a city steeped in debauchery; a city that takes pride in its heritage of voodoo and all types of sinful decadence. The Word of God is not welcomed by the principalities that control such a place.
Just ask Pastor Paul Gros who is now suing the city over this ordinance.
Bob Unruh, reporting for WorldNetDaily late last week wrote,
The controversy was brought to a head by the Alliance Defending Freedom, which filed the case on behalf of Pastor Paul Gros of Vieux Carre Assembly of God Church at 433 [Dauphine] Street, just a block off of Bourbon.
For 30 years, hes periodically gone to the French Quarter community center to preach the message of Jesus.
Pastor Gros shares his faith in various ways. Sometimes he preaches; other times he hands out tracts and/or carries portable signs. But more than any other way, Pastor Gros likes to engage individuals in respectful, one-on-one discussion about Jesus and the Christian faith.
Until he was ordered to be quiet by police.
The pastors periodic visits came to an abrupt halt May 15.
Around 9:30 p.m. Pastor Gros and his group were stopped from engaging in religious discussion. Upon receiving the order to stop, Pastor Gros asked to speak to the highest-ranking police officer and was directed to Officer [M.J.] Field. Officer Field confirmed that the law precluded any Christian speech on Bourbon Street at night, according to ADF.
Field cited an aggressive solicitation ordinance sponsored by council member Kristin Palmer.
Because of the existence of the Religious Speech Ban and the penalties prescribed for violating it, Pastor Gros did not attend the Southern Decadence event that occurred this past Labor Day weekend. He feared arrest. And Pastor Gros soon learned that his fear was well-founded, discovering that several people communicating a religious message were arrested or threatened with arrest for violating 54-419.
The Southern Decadence parade is an annual French Quarter celebration of the homosexual culture in New Orleans. In the case of the recent arrests of nine Christians, according to the New Orleans Times-Picayune, police said they yelled anti-gay slurs over bullhorns.
Anti-gay slurs. What does that mean? If these people are true Christiansnot like the Westboro Baptist cult freaksthat likely means they were simply telling the biblical truth about the sin of homosexuality.
Now, we could debate the pros and cons of using bullhorns to blast the Christian message. I personally do not think using bullhorns is the most effective way to spread the Christian message to random passersby who may not be receptive, but that does not mean it has never been successful in reaching the lost.
Regardless, the good news is that this anti-Christian ordinance is being challenged on constitutional grounds by lawyers with the nonprofit Alliance Defending Freedom (formerly the Alliance Defense Fund) who are representing Pastor Gros. As Mr. Unruh reported,
Alliance Defending Freedom Legal Counsel Joseph La Rue argued religious speech is just as important, and just as protected by the First Amendment, as speech about any other subject at any time of day.
New Orleans cannot make criminals of people simply because they want to talk about their faith, he said.
The lawsuit, which also seeks an injunction halting enforcement of the ban, charges the prohibition is unconstitutional on its face and as applied.
It is a content-based restriction on speech but is not narrowly tailored to a compelling state interest, the complaint states.
La Rue says city officials in New Orleans have chosen to criminalize speech about faith while allowing just about every other conceivable topic to be discussed and exposed.
Its not up to the government to decide the topics we can and cannot discuss, he said. The First Amendment protects an individuals freedom of speech.
The case was filed in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Louisiana.
Named as defendants are the mayor, council members, police superintendent and others.
We are seeing this kind of bad legislation and these kinds of attacks on Christian liberty more than ever before in our nation. It is only going to get worse, but that does not mean we ever stop fighting against it. The Lord forewarned us of these ever-darker days when evil would prevail for a short time just before His return to issue the Royal Smack-Down of Eternity on the enemies of God.
In the meantime, those of us who love the Lord must do our best to stand firmly in His Word, pray for our brothers and sisters in Christ, like Pastor Gros and the legal warriors of the Alliance Defending Freedom, who are on the front lines in the battle for true freedom. We can also offer financial support to help fund the precious work of the nonprofit Alliance Defending Freedom.
Guess this would also ban any jazz club from playing ‘When the Saints Come Marching In” or “Just a Closer Walk With Thee”.
HA! Yeah, after sundown...
While this is a legal slam dunk for religious people, *they* more than most people, actually need legal protection from two directions while “saying their say”.
They mentioned one group, the “Westboro Baptist cult freaks”, whose actions are less motivated by faith than a desire to incite *some* violence against them, so they can sue, seeing their ‘religion’ as a money generating enterprise; but this also stimulates hatred against other religious groups expressing their faith.
This creates something of a legal paradox, because while they hide behind the legal protections afforded religion, they are working overtime to destroy the goodwill created by legitimate religions.
So there is a need to restrict their offensive behavior but without imposing on the legitimate behavior of religious people. This might be possible, but only if the legitimate religions work with government to exclude the troublemakers but not impose on the legitimate exercise of faith.
The other problem are those either opposed to all religion or specifically opposed to the Christian religion. In the former case obnoxious and even injurious; but in the latter case, say with radical Muslims, potentially deadly.
The first case requires police sympathy, something that may be hard to achieve unless mandated to the police, so they will treat assaults and damage as legitimate crimes, and not just tell the victim that they brought it on themselves.
The second case is one that can only be mitigated by self defensive techniques like working in teams and being armed.
Well, as a practicing Catholic I get bothered by pushy evangelicals of any stripe who won’t take the “I’m not interested” I give ‘em at face value.
I almost want to start punching them out like Robert Stack and Lloyd Bridges punching out the Hare Krishnas at the airport in “Airplane”.
Anything that keeps ‘em away from me I’m all for. I’m not interested in your Protestant heresy.
What a thoughtful post.
Are you are registered (D)? Just wondering.
Sorry, meant that to go to post 6
I meant post 5 by Emperor Palpatine
A city that allows orgies to be advertised on neon signs would do this
God looks upon the hearts of His Son's believers, not on their form of worship. What will he find in yours?
religious people can take offense with the law, and even believe themselves to be the special targets of it
myself I think it’s all about business, tourists and the tourist driven economy of the French Quarter
we can call it a bad thing for freedom of speech, but I think the idea that Christians are it’s special targets is overblown
No, I’m a registered Republican.
I just don’t like being proseltyzed by yahoos who think they have the monopoly on heaven.
I feel much better.
There is a whole slew of cases about this type of stuff.
They arise out of the Hari Krisnas preaching to people waiting in line at the airports. The people in line can’t leave the line so they are essentially forced to listen.
it is a time place and manner issue.
There is no expectation of a “soap box” speaker every time you stand in line for something.
I actually had significant curiosity and interest in the Catholic Church, until I began reading the Catholic posts on FR... not throwing this in Emperor P’s lap, what he said is nothing... I mean the volumes and volumes and volumes of Catholic posts, individual posts pages long saying who is right and who is wrong and how you are a heretic because you believe this and I am right because I believe that and who’s a real Catholic and who isn’t, they spend so much time sinking knives into each others backs, they barely have time to take a stab at an occasional Protestant. How freaking disappointing! If all that energy were spent on bicycles and treadmills attached to electrical generators, not only could you power a city, but people would start wondering what was going on in the Catholic Church, that was making all its members look like Jack LaLanne.
AFA NO is concerned... It’s simply another instance of what has become an accepted fact: Where Christians gather, the law surrounds them with the night sticks pointing inward... but where the Muslims, or the LGBT, or the OWSers, or the Black Panthers are, the law surrounds them with the night sticks pointing outward.
The battle lines are drawn... But send no troops to NO... it’s a town that has always been a sideshow, and likewise any effort to take issue with them, would become a sideshow of a sideshow. There are far bigger fish to fry, with the whole country marching towards societal collapse... and then NO will be just one Category 5 away from being the nicest little fishing camp that you ever saw.
Catholics seem to think they have that "monopoly."
Jesus said he is the ONLY way to the Father, between man and God the Father, yet Catholics believe the pope is the bridge. That's what I call heresy.
No we don’t
You have no understanding of Catholicism in the least.
Actually, you were dismissed when you called Bible-believing Christians “yahoos.”
I normally do not “take on” hardcore Catholics, generally, because it’s pointless. But, the “yahoo” thing...