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Woman blames SB 1070 for mother's traffic arrest
KTAR ^ | Sep 24, 2012 | Aaron Granillo

Posted on 09/25/2012 7:41:19 AM PDT by moonshinner_09

PHOENIX -- Erika Andiola's mother was pulled over by Mesa Police Saturday night for speeding but Andiola believes there was another reason, a reason police said is irrelevant.

"According to the police she was going 50 miles per hour when it was supposed to be 40," Andiola told 92.3 KTAR's Jay Lawrence.

"I actually went to speak to one of the cops and he didn't even want to answer whether he stopped them or not because of the color of their skin but I honestly felt that was the reason why that happened."

Andiola added that her mother and two siblings who were also in the car were adamant that they weren't speeding. The family is Hispanic.

(Excerpt) Read more at ktar.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: aliens; immigration; phoenix; sb1070
Earlier..Phoenix police: Officer wasn't wrong in ICE arrest http://www.azcentral.com/community/phoenix/20120921phoenix-police-officer-wasnt-wrong-ice-arrest.html Check out this key quote... "He told me, 'The only reason that the officer stopped me was because we looked Hispanic. If we looked Anglo they wouldn't have stopped us,' "

"He told me, 'The only reason that the officer stopped me was because we looked Hispanic. If we looked Anglo they wouldn't have stopped us,' "

I never had any luck with police just wave me on after I ran a red light due to I am Anglo and the police would just ignore what I did.. Race card again..

They put up YTUBE...My mother was stopped in Arizona! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rIxHJAy6FG4

Andiola added that her mother and two siblings who were also in the car were adamant that they weren't speeding.Everybody says this, i wasn't speeding

1 posted on 09/25/2012 7:41:22 AM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

Pretty good vision that officer has, picking out a brown person doing 50 at night.


2 posted on 09/25/2012 7:45:52 AM PDT by dblshot (Insanity: electing the same people over and over and expecting different results.)
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To: moonshinner_09

Or it could be that she was going 10 mph over the speed limit, you nut.


3 posted on 09/25/2012 7:48:07 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: moonshinner_09

A dash cam will prove otherwise. Any group giving instructions on how to obfuscate law enforcement doing their jobs should be held financially liable.

This is just the start. A torrent of lies, just like the terrorists give, will come gushing out from these illegals to discredit the police any way they can. Look for EVERY illegal alien to try this tact.

That is the problem when you have people who have nothing but contempt for this country. They refuse to learn English, obey the laws and especially thing the laws don’t apply to them.


4 posted on 09/25/2012 7:52:44 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: moonshinner_09

in the article she admits that she’s illegal. lucky she wasn’t arrested.


5 posted on 09/25/2012 7:52:59 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: moonshinner_09

What did the radar say? Racist Radars...


6 posted on 09/25/2012 7:54:07 AM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: moonshinner_09

7 posted on 09/25/2012 8:03:49 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote
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To: moonshinner_09

I don’t like the race card bit, but my son has been stopped umpteen times because he has a certain car, fits a certain profile (young man, dark curly hair) and drives a certain road.

It’s come to the point he’s installed a dash recorder because he’s been treated so badly. They stop him, and go through all the boxes in his car (tools). And they are quite rude about it. And they always use as an excuse the speed limit or such.


8 posted on 09/25/2012 8:13:52 AM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: moonshinner_09; Liz

“OK lady I’ll book you for being an illegall alien and breaking the immigration laws and being illegally in this country.”


9 posted on 09/25/2012 8:20:24 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: dblshot

So what color are Hispanics?

On my mother’s side (Spain), we are all white with blue eyes.

On my dad’s side (Anglo), we are all white with blue eyes.

I repeat. What color are Hispanics?

And oh yes, we were all born blond.


10 posted on 09/25/2012 8:25:36 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: I still care
my son has been stopped umpteen times because he has a certain car, fits a certain profile
No, the police stopped him using some probable cause umpteen times.
What was it?
11 posted on 09/25/2012 8:36:52 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

They say he is speeding (which he isn’t), or doing something otherwise, but when they stop him they immediately search his car. When he challenges them after they are done, on saying he is doing something illegal, they have said something like, “Shut up and drive away”.

If he really was doing wrong, I would have thought he’d gotten a ticket at least once.

He has a fast car and drives on a drug corridor, drives just under the speed limit. He has dark curly hair. That’s it, and we know it. We know cops in the area, that’s what they tell us.


12 posted on 09/25/2012 8:43:50 AM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

Well you are obviously a white hispanic. We just created a new category for your type. Don’t go shooting any black youngsters, now!


13 posted on 09/25/2012 8:47:20 AM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

The term “Hispanic” is usually reserved for Latin Americans, especially Spanish speaking Latinos. People from Spain are usually called “Spanish”.


14 posted on 09/25/2012 8:47:32 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (What is more unseemly that the sight of Chris Matthews groveling before his own self image?)
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To: I still care

Your son should tell the cops that no they can not search the car.


15 posted on 09/25/2012 8:52:27 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: I still care

Sorry he is being targeted. This is not right.

Just a suggestion and your mileage may vary but the next time they stop him he should tell them he does not consent to being searched. Most likely they will call the judge and get a warrant and search his car anyway. However, this makes them waste their time and gets it on the record. Unfortunately it will waste your sons time as well. After they do this 2 or 3 times they will either get the idea and start leaving him alone or I would attempt to sue the city/police to force the issue. Keep the paper work make a big deal of it. Call a reporter.


16 posted on 09/25/2012 8:53:27 AM PDT by Syntyr (Happiness is two at low eight!)
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To: I still care
They say he is speeding (which he isn’t)
Hmmm, that's what the people in the story said too. Nevertheless, if true, he should have gotten at least one speeding ticket.
Cops have to ask for permission to search a vehicle. Why hasn't he objected and forced them to get a warrant? Has he complained to other local officials - i.e. the chief, mayor, etc?
BTW, all cars are "fast" depending on the driver. Even a VW Beetle can break the speed limit.
17 posted on 09/25/2012 8:53:42 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: I still care

I don’t have a problem with profiling. Another word for that is good police work. I do have a problem with stopping people without probable cause, and then conducting searches. Another word for that is fascism.


18 posted on 09/25/2012 8:53:46 AM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: I still care

Be aware though doing the “no you may not search” will involve risks. I would record it and make double sure there are no weapons, drugs, screwdrivers, ammo, stun guns. Also make sure everything is tip top and current on the car. No broken lights, insurance up to date etc. He will be walking a thin line and pissing cops off. Also keep your hands visible and its Yes sir No sir all the time.

It’s sad that you have to resort to this nowadays...


19 posted on 09/25/2012 8:57:38 AM PDT by Syntyr (Happiness is two at low eight!)
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To: I still care

My daughters boyfriend was constantly getting stopped when he owned his Camaro.

Even his father got stopped a few times while driving it. So, he figured the car was what was being profiled. He got rid of the car since one more ticket and he would lose his license.

He has not been stopped since. It was definitely a car profile thing. I think if it was red it would have been worse. These type of cars just stick out and then they clock them.


20 posted on 09/25/2012 9:01:33 AM PDT by jcsjcm (This country was built on exceptionalism and individualism. In God we Trust - Laus Deo)
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
The woman's argument is based on the officer's ability to visually discern her ethnicity. She, if not you, has made the connection between the way she looks and the officer's assumption that she is Hispanic. Could she make this argument if she were white with blue eyes? I suppose so, but she would have to cite some other visual clue to make it a reasonable argument. So it is reasonable to assume, given the locale and the woman's own argument that she can be identified visually as Hispanic that she not white with blue eyes but likely brown with dark eyes. At some time even La Raza people self refered as brown people. I guess things look different under the mango tree.
21 posted on 09/25/2012 9:13:48 AM PDT by dblshot (Insanity: electing the same people over and over and expecting different results.)
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To: I still care

My daughter has the same problem.


22 posted on 09/25/2012 9:15:36 AM PDT by pas
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To: moonshinner_09

Oh shut up. No one is interested in your senseless whining anymore........


23 posted on 09/25/2012 9:29:17 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: moonshinner_09

she didn’t even deny speeding did she?

Is she saying it should be ok to speed if you are not white?


24 posted on 09/25/2012 9:30:31 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: moonshinner_09; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; ...
Ping!

Click the keyword Aliens to see more illegal alien, border security, and other related threads.

25 posted on 09/25/2012 10:14:03 AM PDT by HiJinx (Progessive Compassion requires OPM - Other People's Money.)
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To: moonshinner_09

What do you guys think would happened if this same family were driving in small towns, that are well known for speed traps and the car is going 50mph in a 40mph zone ? Would the racial profiling defense be used ?


26 posted on 09/25/2012 10:27:33 AM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: I still care

“We know cops in the area, that’s what they tell us.”

Obviously not well enough! ;-)

When I was a young skull full of mush, I would get stopped constantly. I always found it rather comical because I would reek of stale beer. I’d almost always get stopped going home after my job of sorting cans/bottles at the local grocery store. I’m surprised they never accused me of drinking and driving...


27 posted on 09/25/2012 11:29:51 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: HiJinx
Woman blames SB1070 for mother's traffic arrest

I think Mrs. Illegal Alien can blame herself.

It's a short drive to Nogales from Phoenix. Once home, no problems with the traffic cops...other then having to hand over cash to them for no particular reason.

28 posted on 09/25/2012 11:57:43 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: GeronL
Is she saying it should be ok to speed if you are not white?

Oh no, it goes much further then that.

They are saying that you should be able to enter and remain in the United States at your own leisure if you aren't white.

Basically, they are claiming that the existence of the border itself is racist.

Invasion as a Civil Right

People think I'm exaggerating when I say that. Um, NOT. Reduced to it's basis, that's what they are saying.

29 posted on 09/25/2012 12:01:07 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: Regulator

yep. That is exactly what they are saying


30 posted on 09/25/2012 12:13:03 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: dblshot

“I guess things look different under the mango tree.”

LOL!!! I am not ignoring you. I have many things to do before crashing. I will try and reply tomorrow.

I love, love, love mangos.

In the supermarkets, one can purchase them weighing 1-1/2 lb. They are not cheap. They are very large to say the least. I cannot get through one although I spread eating one over a period of days.

I also love, love, love peaches. Unfortunately they are picked too green from those countries that export them to Panama. Therefore, they never get that juicy. It affects the flavor that makes them sweet and tasty.


31 posted on 09/25/2012 12:43:36 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: jcsjcm
Years ago my husband drove a very flashy red sports car. He was always getting tickets. One officer told us as he was smiling, hey we are human also, this kind of car catches everyones eye.
32 posted on 09/25/2012 12:50:51 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: moonshinner_09

In the YTUBE the officer tells them if they have problem with the ticket they can show up in court and contest it.Instead they are trying to turn this into a major crisis. Will we next see Holder being asked to come to PHOENIX and set the police straight ?


33 posted on 09/25/2012 12:56:15 PM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

My lily white niece got pulled over last week for going 60 in a 55. Too bad we can’t whine that it was because of the color of her skin.


34 posted on 09/25/2012 1:05:29 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Irish Eyes
Years ago my husband drove a very flashy red sports car. He was always getting tickets.
You can get a ticket for driving a flashy red sports car?
35 posted on 09/25/2012 1:29:12 PM PDT by lewislynn ( What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in commom? Misinformation)
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To: moonshinner_09

Life’s tough, it’s even tougher when you’re here illegally. It’s probably best that just leave..


36 posted on 09/25/2012 2:06:24 PM PDT by cardinal4 (If Baraq Hussein Obama had a son he would look like Rageboy)
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
I'm sorry, Gatún. Juan Carlos de Borbón, Penelope Cruz and your relatives,are not federally qualified as Hispanics.

You see, if they were Puerto Rican, blonde and blue-eyed, black, or anything in between, they would be "Hispanic." All Puerto Ricans are "Hispanics." It's the law. A Chilean, or god forbid an Argentine, well that's a horse of a different color. When it comes to "Hispanics" if you be too white, you ain't all right.

I am sorry this is so confusing. But the bureaucrapic rule of thumb here is that in order to be an Hispanic, one really ought to be the same skin tone as a brown paper bag, or darker. It's a melanin thing.

The best kind of federally protected minority would be a transgendered Negro with Venezuelan, Cuban, or Nicaraguan antecedents.

Our government has not cottoned on to the fact that Latin America (and modern Spain)are multi-racial

37 posted on 09/25/2012 2:43:09 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Obama = Allende.)
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To: HiJinx

One Dumb Broad!!!

Lying passengers!!!

They all think they are Privileged Liberals!


38 posted on 09/25/2012 2:59:41 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: moonshinner_09
Andiola added that her mother and two siblings who were also in the car were adamant that they weren't speeding.

They were all in a position to watch the speedometer, eh?

39 posted on 09/25/2012 3:44:22 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: moonshinner_09

All this about race is beyond all reason. The other day a woman here claimed she got a speeding ticket on the freeway only because she is Hispanic...this is New Mexico- most of the LEOs are Hispanic, totally outrageous. Next time I get a ticket I am going to throw a fit and say it is only because I am white...


40 posted on 09/25/2012 7:58:33 PM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: Regulator

Even beyond that they think they should be able to do/not do as they please. Laws just don’t apply to them or shouldn’t because they are special don’t we all understand that?


41 posted on 09/25/2012 8:05:13 PM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: Regulator

Even beyond that they think they should be able to do/not do as they please. Laws just don’t apply to them or shouldn’t because they are special don’t we all understand that?


42 posted on 09/25/2012 8:05:27 PM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: Tammy8
Laws just don’t apply to them or shouldn’t because they are special don’t we all understand that?

They make a point. They say our laws don't apply to them because...they're our laws, in other words, American laws.

They're admitting that they are in no way part of our nation.

They identify with, and are part of, the Mexican nation.

Fine. So we all agree: they're legal, cultural, and ethnic aliens.

IOW, foreigners, living on someone else's soil.

So they should be packing up and leaving.

43 posted on 09/26/2012 10:22:49 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: lewislynn

Read the entire post before commenting. I was making a point.

You don’t vote do you?


44 posted on 09/26/2012 12:38:10 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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