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Weekly Prepper's Thread
9/28/12

Posted on 09/28/2012 3:11:57 PM PDT by Kartographer

Weekly Preppers' Thread to post progress, good buys, DIY projects, advice and ideas ...


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Th start things off I brought a #10 Can of Augason Farms Morning-Moo Low Fat Milk Alternative. I was very drinkable and actually to me had a slight sweet taste. I got it at the Walmart in Durango for $12.46 and it makes 23.25 quarts.
1 posted on 09/28/2012 3:12:02 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


2 posted on 09/28/2012 3:13:13 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

when they say low fat milk “alternative” what do they mean?....not really milk?...soy?..almond?...is any of it organic?


3 posted on 09/28/2012 3:14:33 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry

http://www.augasonfarms.com/Drinks/Morning-Moos/Gluten-Free-Morning-Moo-s-Low-Fat-Milk-Alternative-10-Can-UPC-00946-90903


4 posted on 09/28/2012 3:17:10 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Today I bought 40 acres with a house and a well. OK, haven’t “bought” it yet, but accepted the banks counter offer and have 17 days for inspection and 30 days til closing.


5 posted on 09/28/2012 3:23:26 PM PDT by running_dog_lackey
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To: Kartographer

I would think that in times of meager, you’d want fats as well. I bought the fortified fat milk a bit ago. I also just receved my canned butter from New Zealand. It is excellent! (Red Feather)


6 posted on 09/28/2012 3:24:02 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Kartographer

We have a good stock of beans, wheat, etc., but now need to buy a grinder. There are so many to choose from. Any opinions on a good one? Must be a manual grinder.


7 posted on 09/28/2012 3:26:26 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Kartographer
It does have soy in it so I will steer clear. I got a book “Survival Plants of Colorado - Vol-1” By Cattail Bob Seebeck. It has the good tasting wild plants, medicinals uses and poisonous plants also. Looks good.
8 posted on 09/28/2012 3:27:58 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: running_dog_lackey

More than a ‘little’ green. ;-)


9 posted on 09/28/2012 3:28:11 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

I am probably not the first to do so, but I never throw bars of soap after there is just a sliver left. I have a couple of large ziploc bags full of soap slivers.


10 posted on 09/28/2012 3:29:33 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: Kartographer

Another question. When using buckets or even #10 cans, the oxygen packs will not last long (imo). Is there a good little hand unit for sucking air out of a container after you toss in the oxygenizer?


11 posted on 09/28/2012 3:29:38 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: SgtHooper; All

Grinder Advise anyone?


12 posted on 09/28/2012 3:30:06 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: SgtHooper

I brought some NIDO which is supposed to be whole milk. I don’t know if I just got a bad can or what, but it gagged me. I can drink powdered no fat milk, but it has to be cold.


13 posted on 09/28/2012 3:32:43 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: cherry

Mostly whey, about 4% coconut oil.


14 posted on 09/28/2012 3:35:29 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1347 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: SgtHooper

I use a Mylar liner in mine and squeeze out most as I can and then throw in the oxygen absorbers, Some people do have a vacuum tube rigged, but they all seem to use different set-ups.


15 posted on 09/28/2012 3:35:45 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

hmmm, from my cursory look, it looks like that is not for longterm use. I just have so much confidence on the stuff from Emergency Essentials.


16 posted on 09/28/2012 3:42:28 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Kartographer

Thanks, I just do not have a feel for how long an absorber will last without pulling out the atmosphere. Even receiving the absorber in the packaging bothers me. How long will they last in the packaging in which they are shipped. Prolly need to store them in a bucket that is sucked out.


17 posted on 09/28/2012 3:45:37 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: SgtHooper

In daily operation, I can see repeated access to the buckets/cans that require absorbers. So of course the goal is to maximize the life of the absorbers. Once they are gone it then becomes a race to eat the food before it goes bad.


18 posted on 09/28/2012 3:49:29 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: SgtHooper

I just bought lint lizard. i will be trying this out tomorrow. use w vac cleaner.


19 posted on 09/28/2012 3:51:51 PM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: Kartographer

I buy the Provident Pantry Instant Nonfat Dry Milk in #10 cans. Tastes very good. In fact I quit buying milk from the grocery and use only this stuff. I keep a dozen or so on hand.


20 posted on 09/28/2012 3:54:03 PM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks like Right-Wing extremism.)
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To: Kartographer

This week lds cannery, yoder canned bacon, planted garlic. made celloidal water.


21 posted on 09/28/2012 3:54:10 PM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: GSWarrior
"I am probably not the first to do so, but I never throw bars of soap after there is just a sliver left. I have a couple of large ziploc bags full of soap slivers."

I've done that before. Have let them sit in a small basin with some water and when they got soft, put them in a blender to liquify and then put it in a pump dispenser. It was OK but a little gooey. I think a better way would be to low temp melt them and remold into bigger bars. A metal loaf pan would be perfect. Pour it in and when partially solidified cut into bars.

22 posted on 09/28/2012 3:59:59 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Buy and read Ameritopia by Mark Levin!)
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To: Kartographer

The boys and I are making a half dozen rocket stoves to store in the shed for a rainy day. They will be this years “science project” at school too.

One #10 can and 4 regular soup cans. Vermiculite for the insulation. All you need is some tin snips.

They work great, use very little fuel and last for quite a long time. Saw a Youtube vid on some guys design and they really perform.


23 posted on 09/28/2012 4:10:49 PM PDT by Ribeye (Protective headwear courtesy of Reynolds Aluminum Products- Extra-cranial RF Suppression Division)
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To: Kartographer
Bought two more cases (24) of canning jars today.

Prepper bump.

24 posted on 09/28/2012 4:16:40 PM PDT by blam
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To: Kartographer

I bought a .22 suppressor at what is probably the largest gun dealer in the state yesterday. I got the last one. Not sure when they’ll get more.

The BATF has to approve the purchase, and that is currently running 6 to 8 months to get. That’s AFTER they get your $200 fee AND you have paid for the suppressor. The paperwork is AWFUL. The wait is likely to get MUCH longer if Obama is re-elected.

I happened to be talking to the owner. It turns out MANY (ALL?) domestic gun manufacturers are so overloaded with orders that they have stopped taking new orders from dealers. Most dealers expect massive new efforts to restrict gun rights if Obama is re-elected. Apparently a lot of ordinary people do to, and the manufacturers cannot keep up.

I also replenished my supply of plinking ammo. Even .22 rimfire ammo is showing signs of running low on a nationwide basis (still available, although selection is starting to thin out). For example, Midway (a large on-line source for ammo and other gun related stuff), is out of stock on a majority of their .22 ammo options. I did not check the rest.

So... I’m guessing you might not want to wait much longer if you are thinking about buying something.

Just a heads up.


25 posted on 09/28/2012 4:18:13 PM PDT by EternalHope (Politicians will always let you down. -- Sarah Palin)
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To: SgtHooper

Went to the community charity yard sale today. Bought a manual meat grinder, a home repair book and a good herb book with color photos.

First thing I noticed was there wasn’t much in the way of prep items like there usually is and it seemed like most was left over from last year’s sale and not many newly donated items. Sign of the times? Either the economy is forcing people to get the profit from their own garage sales or people are hanging onto what they have to make do or they’re waking up to the prepping movement. There was no cast iron cookware. No pots and pans or other cookware. The home repair book I got was the only one along that subject. I had hoped for a edible plant book but no luck. I glance over at the he-man area but didn’t see any tools or machinery. The prices of needful things such as fabric was double or more than last year and there were very few sewing notions. Even the price of baked goodies was outlandish such as $25 for a pie (or maybe I’m out of touch).


26 posted on 09/28/2012 4:19:20 PM PDT by bgill
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To: SgtHooper; Kartographer
I recently purchased the Wonder Junior Deluxe @$219.95 at Amazon . I also purchased the optional pulley wheel which allows you to power the mill by a motor, pedal unit, etc.

The "Deluxe" means it includes both a set of steel burrs and a set of grinding stones. The standard model, the Wondermill Jr Hand Mill @ $169.95, includes only the grinding stones.

I have only used it a few times so I am still learning how to make it work at its best.
I selected this model because it seemed to be one of the most robust units available but cost only about half of the Country Living Hand Grain Mill.

I can tell you that I found it to be solidly built with a feel of quality about it. And it looks as if it will last a lifetime of use if taken care of. Replacement parts are available also.

Performance wise, so far it seems to work as well as I expected from reading manufacturers info and reports from actual users.

I bought the optional pulley with the intent of rigging a system to use pedal power when I find the right cast off bicycle bits and pieces.

All in all I would sum it up by saying that so far I feel I got fair value for my expenditure and I feel I have a quality piece of equipment that will do the job when/if I have to rely on it.

As a back up I recently bought a used Corona mill (with stones, not steel burrs) on eBay for $15 plus $10 shipping. It looks good but haven't used it yet.


27 posted on 09/28/2012 4:23:15 PM PDT by Iron Munro (US Embassies Come and Go But An Obama Apology Lasts Forever)
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To: Kartographer

Question for the scientists and engineers:

If they succeed in procuring the 30,000 drones which can be equipped with infrared to spy on us, what can we do about it? Will finding a cave to dwell in defeat it? Is there anyway to defeat night vision abilities?


28 posted on 09/28/2012 4:26:32 PM PDT by stilloftyhenight
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To: SgtHooper

The oxygen absorbers only last until you open the can. Some cans say they last a week after opening and some last a year. It depends on the manufacturer and the food. Anything with fat has a limited life.

From experience, tomato powder turned into a hard block about half way down but chicken alfredo lasted more than a week. It was really good.


29 posted on 09/28/2012 4:29:23 PM PDT by goosie
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To: MomwithHope

In college, my sister put the slivers of soap in paper cups and simmered them until they melted. When dry, you just peel the cup off.


30 posted on 09/28/2012 4:33:26 PM PDT by goosie
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To: GSWarrior

One way to use leftover soap pieces.

Purchase a piece of nylon net at a fabric store.
Make a flat pouch about 5” square.
Cut 4 pieces 5” by 10”.
Lay the pieces on top of each other and stitch the short sides together with nylon thread.
fold in half and sew two opposite sides closed.
The side opposite the fold is not sewn yet.
Turn it iside out.
Now sew the 4th side almost closed, leaving about 1 1/2” open in the center.
Stuff your soap slivers inside the pouch and use in the shower or anywhere else you need soap and a cleaning pad.


31 posted on 09/28/2012 4:40:52 PM PDT by Iron Munro (US Embassies Come and Go But An Obama Apology Lasts Forever)
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To: Iron Munro
One way to use leftover soap pieces.

I don't have this issue. I simply stick the last sliver (about 1/8" thick or so) onto the next bar of soap. After a day or so, it adheres permanently and becomes a single bar.

32 posted on 09/28/2012 4:53:02 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: GSWarrior

https://pinterest.com/search/?q=soap+saver


33 posted on 09/28/2012 4:54:17 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: SgtHooper; Kartographer

PS - Regarding my post 27.

I forgot to mention that there are many videos on YouTube about the various grain mills and grinders.

For the Wondermill Junior just do a search on YouTube for the name “Wondermill Junior” and you will get quite a few hits.

I watched all the pertinent videos I could find before I made the decision on which to purchase.

Another item: If you have a favorite Preper blob and they have links to buy products on Amazon you can purchase through them at the same price you get directly from Amazon and they get a small commission.


34 posted on 09/28/2012 4:56:08 PM PDT by Iron Munro (US Embassies Come and Go But An Obama Apology Lasts Forever)
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To: Iron Munro

Oops!

Preper blob = Prepper Blog


35 posted on 09/28/2012 4:57:55 PM PDT by Iron Munro (US Embassies Come and Go But An Obama Apology Lasts Forever)
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To: Kartographer

I started a list of “Last minute Preps”.

The obvious question is: why last minute, why not now? My answer is that some things should be done late - pump the septic, buy limited shelf-life items such as bulk oil and pesticides, etc.

Any thoughts; what else goes on this list?


36 posted on 09/28/2012 4:59:38 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: MomwithHope; GSWarrior

THIS is the soap saver my husband uses:

http://www.magnamail.com.au/Product_Detail.aspx?par=0&Cat=11&Prod=1201

Re-compressed soap bars (soap slivers) can be wrapped lightly in tissue paper and placed in underwear drawers to keep things smelling fresh too.


37 posted on 09/28/2012 5:03:05 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: SumProVita

That’s looks pretty useful.


38 posted on 09/28/2012 5:04:37 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: EternalHope; Bride Of Old Sarge

PING to what we were talking about before...


39 posted on 09/28/2012 5:10:48 PM PDT by Old Sarge (We are now officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet)
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To: Kartographer

get the wondermill Jr deluxe grinder with extra burrs, its built like a tank,


40 posted on 09/28/2012 5:24:38 PM PDT by captmar-vell
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To: SgtHooper; Kartographer

Family Grain Mill - hand operated. Pleasant Hill Grain may have that one and they likely have others. I haven’t been on that website for some time.


41 posted on 09/28/2012 5:25:08 PM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: stilloftyhenight

“If they succeed in procuring the 30,000 drones which can be equipped with infrared to spy on us, what can we do about it?”

My county already has a drone. Was among the first counties to get one. What is the sheriff doing with it? I don’t know.


42 posted on 09/28/2012 6:12:43 PM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: Kartographer

This evening, I paid the plumber $107 to fix a potty leak upstairs. Does that count for a prep for this week?


43 posted on 09/28/2012 6:14:55 PM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: Pollster1

I thought I was the only one that did this.


44 posted on 09/28/2012 6:42:48 PM PDT by bassyak (Yakkin' all the way to the fish.)
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To: bgill

I would like a meat grinder. I watched imstillworkin on youtube make sausage and pork meatballs and then can them. It is time to stock up on pork products. I recommend her videos on stocking up and cooking/canning.


45 posted on 09/28/2012 7:10:03 PM PDT by goosie
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To: EternalHope

The local Walmart has been out of .22LR for two months. I asked the clerk and he said that their deliveries are hit and miss. I’m buying there to avoid the shipping charges and get more rounds.


46 posted on 09/28/2012 7:11:09 PM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: bassyak

Started semi-prepping before bubba was elected. But a fishing accident took a lot of it...

The faith farm/goodwill stores USED to have tons of cast iron cookware. Bought all I need for dirt cheap back then. Good thing about gas is, it’s still there after the power goes out, for coffee, hot water.....

Freecycle is an online barter service. I first joined when W was pres. Things were flying back and forth, could barely keep up with deleting posts in my inbox. After Øbama was elected it halved in traffic. Now it’s DOA.


47 posted on 09/28/2012 7:13:37 PM PDT by bicyclerepair ( REPLACE D-W-S ! http://www.karenforcongress.com)
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To: Pollster1

Tobacco and cigarettes for barter,
Chocolate, candy and chewing gum for barter,
Rubbing alcohol and peroxide - short shelf life items,
Manual sewing machine and manual washing machine,
Two-way radio,

to name just a few.


48 posted on 09/28/2012 7:19:14 PM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: bassyak
I thought I was the only one that did this.

What else is on your list? Pumping the septic for those bugging in is the big thing on my list that I'm not sure all preppers would think of. If you're going to stay home but using less water than usual, it would be nice to have a clean septic tank.

49 posted on 09/28/2012 7:24:52 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Kartographer
I ordered for backup and will be testing a very economical water filter from Cheaper Than Dirt. The price is $29.97. Two 5 gallon buckets can be used with this filter. There is a video at the link.



They claim 14 gallons can be filtered in a day. This is a very economical option for those on a budget concerned about safe water.
50 posted on 09/28/2012 7:31:41 PM PDT by PA Engineer (What if the rabbit hole is endless?)
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