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Fast and Furious back in headlines as Univision reportedly finds more victims
The Daily Caller ^ | 9/29/12 | Matthew Boyle

Posted on 09/29/2012 9:59:29 PM PDT by Nachum

Spanish-language television network Univision plans to air a television special that it said reveals more violence than previously known, as well as the stories of how many more Operation Fast and Furious victims were killed, the network announced in a Friday release.

“The consequences of the controversial ‘Fast and Furious’ undercover operation put in place by the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) in 2009 have been deadlier than what has been made public to date,” the network said. “The exclusive, in-depth investigation by Univision News’ award-winning Investigative Unit — Univision Investiga — has found that the guns that crossed the border as part of Operation Fast and Furious caused dozens of deaths inside Mexico.”

Among other groups of Fast and Furious victim stories Univision says it will tell in the special to air Sunday evening at 7 p.m., is one about how “16 young people attending a party in a residential area of Ciudad Juárez in January of 2010″ were gunned down with weapons the Obama administration gave to drug cartel criminals through Fast and Furious.

“Univision News’ Investigative Unit was also able to identify additional guns that escaped the control of ATF agents and were used in different types of crimes throughout Mexico,” the network added. “Furthermore, some of these guns — none of which were reported by congressional investigators — were put in the hands of drug traffickers in Honduras, Puerto Rico, and Colombia. A person familiar with the recent congressional hearings called Univision’s findings ‘the holy grail’ that Congress had been searching for.”

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1 posted on 09/29/2012 9:59:31 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Sounds like the last new network left in the Country


2 posted on 09/29/2012 10:10:38 PM PDT by scooby321 (AMS)
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To: Nachum

Is it possible that “Univision” has begun to see the real world and realize that it isn’t conservatives who are killing Hispanics throughout Mexico and the borderlands of Arizona, New Mexico and Texas.

It is partially the actions of the Obama regime, the Attorney General, the ATF, and ICE.

If this news story is an honest piece of journalism, then kudos to Univision for doing its job, reporting the news accurately and objectively.


3 posted on 09/29/2012 10:12:32 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; ...

“A person familiar with the recent congressional hearings called Univision’s findings ‘the holy grail’ that Congress had been searching for.”

MORE Univision info.
This looks like a gamechanger, folks.


4 posted on 09/29/2012 10:19:28 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and bo stinks)
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To: Nachum

Uhmm. I always believed guns don’t kill people. People kill people. Personal responsibility folks.


5 posted on 09/29/2012 10:22:05 PM PDT by timlot
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To: Nachum
“16 young people attending a party in a residential area of Ciudad Juárez in January of 2010″ were gunned down with weapons the Obama administration gave to drug cartel criminals through Fast and Furious.

Holy crap. I wonder how much it's gonna cost taxpayers for Obama to buy back the Latino vote once they get the full impact of this little gem.

6 posted on 09/29/2012 10:26:11 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: MestaMachine; Dallas59
Thanks MM, this sounds interesting

Got it set to record - 6:00 PM (Central) DirecTV channel 402

I even figured out how to change the CC to English with the help of Dallas59

7 posted on 09/29/2012 10:33:45 PM PDT by voteNRA (A citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized)
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To: Nachum
How bizarre. A network actually engaging in investigative journalism, and daring to ask President Obama some tough questions... Unlike the MSM networks who just function as the Democrats free Propaganda Arm, and as President Obama's Praetorian Guard...
Viva Mehico' ...
8 posted on 09/29/2012 10:37:02 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: voteNRA

Good for you! I wish I could get it, but looking forward to the aftermath if it is as good as they say.
If Latinos finally begin to understand that their lives meant absolutely NOTHING to this administration except to promote an agenda, we might see a shift and maybe even some real anger. Depends on how they report it.


9 posted on 09/29/2012 10:45:53 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and bo stinks)
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To: MestaMachine
I wish I would have paid better attention in Spanish class back in HS, I'm pretty sure I won't be able to get the full effect of the report reading sub-titles.

Please excuse my ignorance on the matter, but is Univision a big deal to Latinos living here? Will it reach a large portion of the population or is it a low rating channel?

From the few news clips and the program that was on when I tuned in, it seems to be a rather high-budget and well done channel. Of course, I have no idea what anyone was saying, I'm basing my opinion on the fact is was in HD and the news sets looked very modern. (and not to mention that the news babes were good looking) :~)

10 posted on 09/29/2012 10:58:12 PM PDT by voteNRA (A citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized)
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To: El Cid

If it hurts Barry, I’m all for it. Our MSM sure doesn’t report in an honest manner.

But it won’t surprise me at all if this is Mexico’s attempt to blame their ills on the US.

I hope someone reports back...I don’t have Univision.


11 posted on 09/29/2012 11:08:56 PM PDT by berdie
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To: voteNRA
Univision is a Spanish-language television network in the United States. It has the largest audience of Spanish-language television viewers according to Nielsen ratings. Randy Falco, (CEO as of June 29, 2011) COO, has been in charge of the company since the departure of Univision Communications president and CEO Joe Uva in April 2010.[1] In recent years the network has reached parity with the U.S.'s five major English-language television networks, and is often a strong fifth, outranking The CW, with some fourth-place weekly placings, and as of 2012, even first place rankings for individual programs over all five English networks due to the network's consistent schedule of new telenovelas all 52 weeks of the year.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Univision

I suspect half of the ratings come from male gringos having impure thoughts while watching the weather report.

12 posted on 09/29/2012 11:20:24 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: Tex-Con-Man
"I suspect half of the ratings come from male gringos having impure thoughts while watching the weather report.

LOL! - Thanks for the info

13 posted on 09/29/2012 11:22:46 PM PDT by voteNRA (A citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized)
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To: timlot

Correct. The problem is that Holder, the DoJ, & ATF put them directly into the hands of criminals. There was nothing “random” about it. If I understand correctly, even when the weapons were purchased at gun shops, it was pre-arranged, to some extent. The shop owners were instructed to sell the guns, under duress.
What they’re trying to establish is that the orders to put guns into the hands of (specifically) criminals/ drug cartels came from Holder/ the DoJ. The sensational violence that was *intended* to come from the operation would be the rationale to tighten gun control.


14 posted on 09/29/2012 11:23:21 PM PDT by KGeorge
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To: MestaMachine

I posted a link to the online stream. Not sure if it was an official feed or one that is here today, gone tomorrow. Search my history and you should find it. I don’t think you can get english subtitles though.


15 posted on 09/30/2012 12:06:42 AM PDT by cableguymn (peace through strength. if they don't like you at least they will fear you.)
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To: Nachum

“Operation Fast and Furious”....Holder’s gift to the world that just keeps on giving.


16 posted on 09/30/2012 12:17:20 AM PDT by Puckster
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To: voteNRA

Huge deal. Big, big, big. They have a huge presence in the spanish-speaking community.

And should you wonder “Why Univision?” - I believe the answer is that they are not owned by one of the conglomerates that own most all other media in the US. Most of the private-sector media in the US is owned by only six companies.

And yes, their female staff are seriously easy on the eyes.

Their studios/production is run out of Florida, I believe.


17 posted on 09/30/2012 2:14:13 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: Nachum
Ahh, I just have to say, Mexican immigrants, doing the job Americans won't do ( only this time it is American journolists won't do)!
18 posted on 09/30/2012 2:15:58 AM PDT by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
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To: voteNRA

I’m hoping that someone who knows spanish will post a live thread. That would be helpful.


19 posted on 09/30/2012 2:38:48 AM PDT by IM2MAD
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To: Nachum
>"16 young people attending a party in a residential area of Ciudad Juárez in January of 2010″ were gunned down with weapons the Obama administration gave to drug cartel criminals"

Good thing they were all orphans with no relatives?

Might explain why Stinky only gives them plastic sporks to eat with in his presence!

20 posted on 09/30/2012 4:22:43 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a Barack 0b0tt0my!)
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To: Nachum

A word of caution, Univsion management is infiltrated with Commies.

Cuban loving variety, hard core, Obamabot leftists.

Just for reference.


21 posted on 09/30/2012 4:37:38 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: voteNRA; All
"I even figured out how to change the CC to English with the help of Dallas59 "

Care to repost a link to those instructions for the rest of us on DTV?

22 posted on 09/30/2012 4:50:49 AM PDT by mazda77 ("Defeating the Totalitarian Lie" By: Hilmar von Campe. Everybody should read it.)
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To: Nachum

.........”Univision Investiga — has found that the guns that crossed the border as part of Operation Fast and Furious caused dozens of deaths inside Mexico.”

Sorry, Univision is not “breaking news” here. This has been reported more than once and this has been discussed on Issa’s committee. I believe OUR MSM has not reported this enough and maybe, just maybe, this will open the eyes of the Latino community of how many of their people have been murdered at the hands of the Obama administration F&F. I have a feeling, though they will tie it back to being “Bush’s fault” and that is all they will hear the rest of the report.

Where has our government investigations gotten us, the IG pretty much giving the White Hut and Holder a clean bill of health and throwing some low level subordinates under the bus. We are still waiting on the final straw to drop.

When I see Obama, Holder, Clinton and Napalitano in chains, then I will think we are making headways in solving and bringing to justice the killers of our border patrol agent, Officer Brian Terry.


23 posted on 09/30/2012 5:13:37 AM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: All

Hate saying this but nobody cares.

Our guys are sitting in Afghanistan as human targets and nobody cares. Our embassies in the mid-east have been overrun, nobody cares. An ambassador has been captured, tortured and dragged through the streets by terrorists along with his protectors and nobody cares. Our government gave away free guns to Mexican drug lords which resulted in the deaths of American citizens as well as hundreds upon hundreds of innocent Mexicans and nobody cares. Gas prices have doubled, bread is up 40%, milk is up 20%, beef is heading up, bacon has close to doubled and nobody cares.
The administration has been caught lying to the people too many times to count and nobody cares.

why bother? Nobody is going to care if this airs or not and the hispanic vote will go to Obama by a comfortable majority no matter what. Even if Obama is on secret film disparaging latinos and pulling a Tony Montana on a group of Mexican school children, he’ll still pull 85% of their vote.


24 posted on 09/30/2012 5:28:44 AM PDT by newnhdad (Where will you be during the Election Riots of 2012/2013?)
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To: Nachum

With Univision’s history of being quite sympathetic to illegal immigration, here’s what I expect to see come of this.

Yes, they’ll reveal a massive problem with Fast and Furious. Then they’ll describe the program as having started under Bush, and the Obama team putting and end to it.

The emphasis will be on the Hispanic people becoming more politically involved to put an end to things like this.

Vote Obama!


25 posted on 09/30/2012 5:36:27 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Imagine how bad these global protests would be, if Obama hadn't won us s o many new friends.)
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To: Nachum

They’re not victims. They’re just a “bump in the road” for the totalitarian attack on amendment 2. Never let a hidden-agenda, pre-meditated murder (it didn’t matter who or how may die) go to waste.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/feinstein-uses-fast-and-furious-make-case-national-gun-registration

For the attack on amendment 1 and the sharia law trial balloon see Benghazigate.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/09/29/Benghazi-Gate-Timeline-What%20Government-Knew-What-they-Said

DEPOPULATE totalitarians from the body politic.

live - free - republic


26 posted on 09/30/2012 6:18:04 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Nachum; All

Be very leery of Univision....which promotes Illegal Alien Amnesty as well as the racial theories of Aztlan and Reconquista.

Just like the English-language networks in the USA, the Spanish language ones are just as liberal....and promote the Hispano-Racist agenda more extensively.


27 posted on 09/30/2012 6:34:55 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Political maturity is realizing that the "R" next to someone's name does not mean "conservative")
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To: timlot
Uhmm. I always believed guns don’t kill people. People kill people. Personal responsibility folks.

Yeah, buy a gun. Give it to a known drug dealer who uses it to commit a crime, then try using that defense in court.

28 posted on 09/30/2012 6:59:11 AM PDT by Starstruck (Voting for Obama again is like a dog returning to its own vomit.)
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To: voteNRA; All

DISH Network Ch. 270


29 posted on 09/30/2012 7:00:53 AM PDT by DaveinOK54 (Freedom is not Free and I'll never quit defending it.)
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To: Nachum

The preview trailer of the Univision program was very hard-hitting with graphic views of the killing of Mexican citizens.

Congress should replay the whole program at the Fast and Furious hearings so it will be hard for the MSM to hide the truth about the Administration’s total disregard for our laws and the horror perpetrated on our neighbors in Mexico.


30 posted on 09/30/2012 7:28:00 AM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk oMnly to me.)
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To: Nachum
This is coming from Hillary.

Henry Cisneros is on Univision Board of Directors.

31 posted on 09/30/2012 7:57:55 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Wake me when Mexico indicts Obama and Holder for crimes committed against their citizens...


32 posted on 09/30/2012 2:08:42 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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