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NAACP Continues War Against Tests and Education
Frontpagemag.com ^ | Sept 28th, 2012 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 09/30/2012 1:15:21 AM PDT by expat1000

Education, if there’s anything more racist than that, it’s probably peanut butter or America. Sadly this will undoubtedly work, just as the lawsuit against the New York Fire Department’s racist test-based hiring practices worked.

On Thursday, the NAACP Legal Defense Fund is filing a federal civil rights complaint, challenging the city’s admissions process for eight specialized high schools, including Stuyvesant, Bronx Science and Brooklyn Tech.

“There is a single two-and-a-half hour multiple choice test that is the sole criterion for admissions,” said Rachel Kleinman of the NAACP Legal Defense Fund. “So, no matter how good your grades are, no matter what your teachers say about you, you could win the national spelling bee. None of that matters.”

Save us Attorney General Eric Holder, they’re using a “test” as a criteria instead of “what teachers say about you” and how quickly they promoted you to get you out of their class.

Don’t they know that all tests are inherently racist? But why did the NAACP choose Rachel Kleinman to represent its bogus lawsuit, instead of a proud woman of color? I hope they didn’t use some kind of performance based measure of lawyer selection or they might have to sue themselves.

30,000 eighth graders take the Specialized High School exam each year and many prepare extensively, spending weekends and after-school time taking test prep courses.

And although the majority of city students are black or Hispanic, most specialized high school students are Asian or white.

Clearly the test reflects that notorious Asian/White bias.

“African-American and Latino students who are qualified to be in these schools, who have strong indicators of academic merit, are not getting in because they are not doing as well on this test,” Kleinman said.

But the test is the qualifier. How can they be qualified if they aren’t scoring well on the test?

There is no serious case being made here that the test is in way discriminatory. Instead the results of the test are proof of discrimination. So the actual challenge uses an even more bonkers argument.

The complaint, filed with the U.S. Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights—the agency’s civil rights enforcement arm—alleges that the New York City Department of Education and New York State Department of Education have never conducted a study to determine whether the test is a valid tool; in other words, it cannot ensure that there is any relationship between students’ test results and learning standards in the Specialized High Schools.

Suppose that tests are not indeed valid indicators of student learning standards, does that make them discriminatory?

Jose L. Perez, Associate General Counsel of LatinoJustice PRLDEF added, “The New York City and State Departments of Education should follow the trend of other elite high school and colleges throughout the nation that consider multiple factors, including grades, and even geography. At the very least, the Specialized High Schools admissions policy should give all students of a fair chance to demonstrate their academic merit.”

But here’s the thing… a standardized test is as fair as you’re going to get. Grades from different schools are not equivalent. Using geography is silly. If you’re going to have advanced schools, then the students who go to them should be advanced, rather than geographically advanced. Everyone goes into a room with the same test. It’s the most unracist process you can imagine, which is why the advocates of racial preferences are foaming at the mouth over it.

But at least there isn’t a Muslim angle to it. Wait there is…

In addition to the impact on African-American and Latino students, the current policy harms many Asian students, as well.  Monami Maulik, Executive Director of DRUM, said “Low-income South Asian students are also excluded from access to the NYC Specialized Schools.  In particular, thousands of Bangladeshi, Pakistani, and Nepali students are grossly under-represented due to solely test score based admissions that marginalize young people from often under-resourced NYC public schools. Although these students fall under the ‘Asian-American’ category, they are one of many low-income Asian student groups who are not being admitted in any adequate numbers.”

So why are schools with Pakistanis under-resourced as opposed to schools with Chinese in them? Huge numbers of low-income Chinese make it to New York City and get into elite schools. Why can’t Pakistanis do it?

There’s no argument here, just quota arm waving about diversity being our strength. You know what else is our strength? People who can pass tests without whining about it or demanding equal representation based on their race. Oh right, that used to be our strength.

The NAACP’s data shows that American Indians had a 15.7 percent acceptance rate. Asian-Americans had a 35 percent acceptance rate, ahead of whites at only 30.6 percent. Latinos had a 6 percent acceptance rate and blacks had a 5 percent rate.

If this racist test of doom (TM) is truly racist, then why does it seem to favor Asians over whites? Why do Native Americans seem fairly competitive when it comes to this test?

The heteronormative patriarchy of white privilege must really have been working overtime to deliberately exclude blacks and hispanics, while including Asians and Native Americans, but excluding Pakistanis. It’s an impressive achievement.

All the letters demand that New York City’s specialized schools stop looking at the damn test and embrace the entire “constellation” of a child’s activities that don’t depend on him answering questions.

“It is time to move beyond the test and look at the entire scope of a child’s abilities.”

Zakiyah Ansari, New York City mother of eight, Advocacy Director for The Alliance for Quality Education

“It’s time to end the discriminatory use of test scores to determine Specialized High Schools admission. College admissions offices do not rely on standardized exams as the sole factor to select students. Many of the most competitive colleges don’t require applicants to submit test scores at all.”

FairTest Executive Director Monty Neill

“Most selective schools and colleges across the country use multiple criteria, including letters of recommendation,grades, community
service and extracurricular activities, and more in making their admissions decisions.”

Ronnette Summers, parent leader, New York City Coalition for Educational Justice

Who needs to learn anything anyway? Just bring your letters of recommendation and your extracurriculars.

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Daniel Greenfield, a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the Freedom Center, is a New York writer focusing on radical Islam. He is completing a book on the international challenges America faces in the 21st century.

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1 posted on 09/30/2012 1:15:26 AM PDT by expat1000
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2 posted on 09/30/2012 1:18:49 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: expat1000

Academic excellence is racist.


3 posted on 09/30/2012 1:21:05 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Obama does not have the work ethic to be Anti-Christ.)
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To: expat1000

Jaw dropping stupidity. Double face palm worthy. Do they really want students as smart as the “Obama phone” lady attending these specialized schools? Guess so.


4 posted on 09/30/2012 2:26:45 AM PDT by poobear (Socialism, in the minds of the elites, is a con-game for the serfs, nothing more.)
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To: MuttTheHoople

And yet, almost every college commercial you see on TV is aimed at recruiting black students by black spokesmen showing black success in a fantasy world that does not exist.


5 posted on 09/30/2012 2:27:25 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and bo stinks)
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To: expat1000
Slave don't need no education.

If they get too smart, they'll figure out they're slaves.

6 posted on 09/30/2012 3:27:47 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a Barack 0b0tt0my!)
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To: expat1000

Tests just provide evidence of a truth everyone (including the NAACP) already knows.


7 posted on 09/30/2012 3:36:09 AM PDT by 762X51
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To: expat1000

So Pakistanis and Bangladeshis are discriminated against, but those from India are not? That’s a very finely tuned test!


8 posted on 09/30/2012 3:53:19 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: expat1000

This is nothing new. Just another application of stupid “disperate impact” theory.


9 posted on 09/30/2012 3:54:53 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: MestaMachine

I see those commercials every day. ‘Why you sittin’ on duh couch, procrassinatin’?

I have not seen one single Romney/Ryan commercial, but these commercials play nonstop. And they are all directed at black students- nary a white student in any of them.


10 posted on 09/30/2012 4:00:04 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: expat1000

“African-American and Latino students who are qualified to be in these schools, who have strong indicators of academic merit, are not getting in because they are not doing as well on this test,” Kleinman said.

Wouldnot the “test” be the strong indicator of merit??


11 posted on 09/30/2012 4:11:17 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

>>Would not the “test” be the strong indicator of merit??

Ah, no. That would be ethnicity /s


12 posted on 09/30/2012 4:17:08 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: expat1000
Hey, let's go further than that. Get rid of all tests for colleges and uiversities as well. We'll just select doctors, lawyers, engineers, physicists and the like on the basis of ethnic proportional diversity. And since certain ethnic groups have traditionally been underrepesented in the professions, their numbers will be tripled or quadrupled.

They'll be judged on their knowledge of what they currently know and not some racist, white standards having to do with math and science. You know, who's the best rapper or actor? No grading involved. Just who has the most passion. And no grading on vocabulary or grammar either during their presentations. That would be racist and definitely not inclusive. To heck with standards, who needs 'em? (snicker)

13 posted on 09/30/2012 4:32:38 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: expat1000
A social system not based on merit but on who you know and what your political standing is with the hierarchy. Where have I heard of a system like that?


14 posted on 09/30/2012 4:43:13 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: 762X51
Tests just provide evidence of a truth everyone (including the NAACP) already knows.

Big warning sign you are misapplying a test, no idea what the test is testing for. The results of the test are likely related to the rate of illiteracy and innumeracy in the various populations.

15 posted on 09/30/2012 5:00:42 AM PDT by Fraxinus (My opinion, worth what you paid.)
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To: central_va
That's exactly what this is all about.

Merit and meritocratic systems are anathemas to socialism, collectivist thinking, and the Hive mentality.

Hence Obama's "you didn't build that..."

16 posted on 09/30/2012 5:01:26 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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To: Tublecane

Ever wonder why it’s given any attention, much less taken seriously?


17 posted on 09/30/2012 5:25:00 AM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: expat1000

Tests are designed to discriminate: between those who know and those who don’t know the answers to the questions.

Given enough questions in broad enough areas and it is a good tool.

Maybe we should apply the NAACP standards to the NBA.


18 posted on 09/30/2012 5:40:45 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President.)
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To: RWB Patriot

No, I do not wonder. There are various reasons:

1. White guilt
2. White guilt (it counts twice)
3. Squeaky wheel gets the grease
4. Ideologies different from yours and mine rule the legal and educational circles for whatever reason (see points 1-3 and 5-6)
5. People take quack sociology seriously for some reason (see points 1-4 and 6)
6. It is a logical extension of the egalitarianism that has slowly been taking over Western Civilization for 300 years; there’s no reason meritocracy should survive it any better than aristocracy


19 posted on 09/30/2012 5:55:22 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: expat1000; All

The NAACP will do a lot more good for Blacks by encouraging them to study more and take education seriously....instead of their usual canard of “we need standards lowered because we are stupid”.

The NAACP just reinforces the negative stereotypes of Blacks. They are just a group of Black Racists


20 posted on 09/30/2012 6:05:01 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Political maturity is realizing that the "R" next to someone's name does not mean "conservative")
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To: SeminoleCounty
The NAACP will do a lot more good for Blacks by encouraging them to study more and take education seriously....instead of their usual canard of “we need standards lowered because we are stupid”.

I was pleasantly surprised (actually shocked is a better word) when the NAACP got all indignant because standards were to be lowered under a waiver received through NCLB so different subsets of students had different rates of passing to meet guidelines. It was actually surreal.

21 posted on 09/30/2012 6:21:39 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: expat1000

This is 100% targeted against east and south Asians and high-performing non-Asian immigrants (Arabs in no small part, but also former Soviet Union). Non-immigrant white people have become a very small part of the student bodies at Stuyvesant, Bronx Science and Brooklyn Tech — they usually prefer to go to the elite private schools which are simultaneously more stylish and less competitive.

I will be interested to see if any Asian Democrats will say a single word in opposition to this.


22 posted on 09/30/2012 6:28:14 AM PDT by only1percent
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To: expat1000

And, if the tests are so unbalanced, why don’t the complainers show the tests and explain exactly where they are unbalanced. We are supposed to be one Nation, with “standards” in Education (note the capitalization) so a standardized test should be measuring the same things in everyone. So, where are we all falling down?


23 posted on 09/30/2012 6:36:22 AM PDT by asinclair (Curing the sickness, not adding to it.)
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To: 9YearLurker

Don’t forget Nepalis! They’re discriminated against, too, while Tibetans aren’t!

There wouldn’t be such wailing and gnashing of teeth over the handful of functioning high schools if the general school level weren’t so crappy. Why don’t all these agitated activists go after the system that is producing a majority of unqualified students?


24 posted on 09/30/2012 7:07:17 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("In the kingdom of the blind, sight is a crime and mentioning what you see is a gaffe.")
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

There is a commercial that plays here all the time.

It goes something like this:

“Whether you’re good at scratchin’, break dancing or video games, you’ve got what it takes to get into college.”

No mention of brains.


25 posted on 09/30/2012 8:20:01 AM PDT by logitech (Who's here so vile, that will not love his country? If any speak, for him I have offended)
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To: expat1000

I went to Stuy HS in the early 50’s. The school had predominately Jewish students, over 60%, although they were a minority in the city. There were very few blacks but one I remember was near the top of the class. His father was a Dr. (good genes). Tom Sowell went there in the 40’s. Eric Holder and David Axelrod are graduates. The average SAT of the graduates is 1500. In truth the entrance test is an IQ test. There are over 130,000 students in NYC’s 8th grade(public, parochial, private). Teacher’s select the students they think have a chance of scoring high enough to get into one of the 7 or 8 specialized schools. About 30,000 take the test. Stuy is usually the first choice of the cities students( except is SI). Approximately 1,000 are enrolled each year. Statistically you need to have a 1% IQ


26 posted on 09/30/2012 10:13:19 AM PDT by capt B
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To: Fraxinus
The results of the test are likely related to the rate of illiteracy and innumeracy in the various populations.

Well of course they are. And those results, reflecting poorly on a protected class, must never see the light of day.
27 posted on 09/30/2012 10:57:20 AM PDT by 762X51
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