Skip to comments.Where's The Line America?
Posted on 09/30/2012 12:21:46 PM PDT by goodnesswins
Utah is Leading America in taking back STATES rights...get YOUR State Senators and Reps to follow suit....
Pete Hoekstra recently took some heat for saying that he’d like to see the 17th amendment overturned. I personally think it would be a major step in the right direction.
The line was crossed decades ago. The collapse is both inevitable and nigh.
You won't believe the stealth..
Ms Rosa Koire (Democrats Against Agenda 21) was a guest on a "nonpartisan" radio show very recently and did a terrific job exposing Agenda 21 and the literally hundreds of disguises it wears.. she is personable and an excellent presenter. Don't let "Democrats" turn you off.. she became a Democrat back when the Democratic Party was a traditional, patriotic political party and friend of America (my description).
Another very knowledgeable source is William Jasper ( the John Birch Society -- I remember the New American book stores which in the 1950s and 1960s were my talk radio and Internet. The comsymp, pinko progressives owned TV network news, most newspapers and magazines.) Jasper is also an excellent presenter and actually has been on this since being at the Rio conference in 1992 as likely the only conservative (truthful) journalist there.
The effectiveness of a patriotic organization is directly proportional to the amount of fear it causes progressives and the hatred it receives from progressives. I remember Robert Welch and the John Birch Society and how they drove the left beyond nuttiness.. that explains today's Rat Party.
I was reading that the city near me has lowered their standards to condemn houses more easily so they can tear them down and reduce the number of rental properties. I don’t recall the name of the program but it was another sustainability scam.
Seems that houses bought in the cities are most often bought to turn them into rental units.
Been all over that for a year...see www.ISPYRADIO.com
Ken Ivory says (I heard him speak yesterday) that if you mention “Agenda 21,” legislators as a rule, count you immediately as a weirdo....we have to find better ways to fight, and States Rights seems the better way....besides he says Agenda 21 was late to the party...this all started in the 1960’s by Jane Jacobs who wanted us all to live in places modeled after Greenwich Village....
Hum? I thought you were presenting a comparative study not all Utah all the time study.
The state assemblies are even more loaded with enviro-regulator commies who are harder to unseat. We’ll see freedom again, when we can see those “smokestack industries” so hated by them from nearly any place in every state.
You thought wrong...and I probably didn’t make it clear. Utah seems to be the leader....Arizona seems to be working in the same direction, as well as others, but I don’t think any state has formalized their intentions as much as Utah.
Tell me about IT! I’m in Oregon.
Ok, maybe. I did not see any comparison, just information about Utah.
I’ll look again.
I didn’t post it as a comparison...so the only comparison you will likely find is the research you’ve seen elsewhere
The 17th was one of the progressive planks designed to corrupt a once free republic. It worked. Democracy and the administrative state are killing us.
Mitts father wrote an article condemning the John Burch Society and Goldwater who was endorsed by JBS. He walked out of the convention when Goldwater was nominated. I might be mistaken but I thought that Salt Lake City was an amnesty city.
While I’m not thrilled with the idea of the state legislature choosing our senators, I do think it held them more accountable to the state.
I do know that Michigan would have two republican senators today if it weren’t for the 17th amendment.
Yes I remembered it. I was a member of the JBS and campaigned for Goldwater. I am afraid the Tea Party will go the way of the JBS and be labeled as extremist to under mind their goals. Right now the dems. are doing it but I am afraid soon the GOP RINOs will join.
Not if you make the argument with them about Constitutional Government...and make them argue against it!!!!
Yes I remember George Romney.. and the 1964 convention. I am still searching for that photo of Nelson Rockefeller at the podium giving the finger to Goldwater delegates booing him.
I believe Mitt and the RINOS will do the same thing to the Tea Party that was done to the JBS.
Which will it be? Co-opt or destroy the Tea Party?
IMO Dick Armey tried and failed to co-opt the tea party movement.. there is precedent and some might argue that the California recall of Gov. Davis was a tea party effort. California Republicans co-opted the recall effort after months of opposing it.
Once it was clear that California citizens' recall-the-governor effort was going to succeed and there would be a recall election the Republican Party abandoned the support of the Democrat governor, stopped trashing the citizens, and elbowed the citizens aside and claimed the effort was theirs.
The RNC take over of the Tea Party movement failed, so on to plan B. There is precedent for that
You are right the Republican establishment in the past did not try to take over Goldwater and the emerging modern conservative movement; instead..
Nelson Rockefeller according to Stuart Spencer (Rockefeller's public relations head) said, "We had to destroy Barry Goldwater as a member of the human race."
I believe they will try to destroy the Tea Party. They will co-opt only if forced to. I think the attacks on Palin and other conservatives will continue and the GOP will continue to distance them selves from conservatives. This may be the reason Palin was not seen at the convention or at any rallies.