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America could be ‘taken over,’ warns Ross Perot
The Ticket ^ | 10/1/12 | Brendan James

Posted on 10/01/2012 11:59:20 AM PDT by AmericanSamurai

Former presidential contender and billionaire Ross Perot is worried that America is a sitting duck for an unnamed foreign invader. In an interview for his new autobiography, Perot said the nation's weak economy has left us open for a hostile takeover—and neither presidential candidate is the man to save the country.

Citing an impending fiscal cliff, Perot warned of disaster. "If we are that weak, just think of who wants to come here first and take us over," the former CEO of info-tech company Perot Systems told USA Today on Monday.

"The last thing I ever want to see is our country taken over because we're so financially weak, we can't do anything," Perot says.

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1 posted on 10/01/2012 11:59:23 AM PDT by AmericanSamurai
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To: AmericanSamurai

Mr. Perot, thanks for your help in bringing on Bill Clinton, the midwife of the housing bubble that made it all possible. You treasonous old myna bird.


2 posted on 10/01/2012 12:03:15 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: SamuraiScot

Mr. Perot, just shut up, fool! Thanks for electing Bill Clinton.


3 posted on 10/01/2012 12:05:26 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: AmericanSamurai

Well, isn’t that special...he’s just about two-three effed up elections removed from electoral hell perpetrated by crazy assed interference from the likes of him and his ilk. I liked it better when I thought this krazy was dead.


4 posted on 10/01/2012 12:05:26 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: SamuraiScot

WE have been taken over.

By Obama, the Manchurian candidate Palestinian syjmpathizer
Marxist, Alinskyite.


5 posted on 10/01/2012 12:05:34 PM PDT by preamble
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To: AmericanSamurai
The only reason Ross ever does anything, including open his yap, is because there's a buck in it for him.
6 posted on 10/01/2012 12:05:43 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: AmericanSamurai

Is he still worried that the GOP will disrupt his daughter’s wedding or is it his granddaughter’s 4th grade graduation ceremony that they are going to disrupt this time???


7 posted on 10/01/2012 12:07:34 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

ping


8 posted on 10/01/2012 12:08:23 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the psychopath.)
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To: SamuraiScot

BTTT!


10 posted on 10/01/2012 12:15:14 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: AmericanSamurai

Pound sand, pe rot.


11 posted on 10/01/2012 12:19:40 PM PDT by Sivad (Nor Cal Red Turf)
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To: AmericanSamurai

Perot’s Puppeteer has risen again!


12 posted on 10/01/2012 12:20:30 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: AmericanSamurai

It’s already going on. The more you see muslims in the military, city councils, mayors, police officers, elected officials, etc., the more you see this country being taken over. When they reach critical mass, they will start legislating and ruling by sharia law, and then who you gonna’ call?


13 posted on 10/01/2012 12:20:44 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: AmericanSamurai

“The last thing I ever want to see is our country taken over because we’re so financially weak, we can’t do anything,” Perot says.

* * * * * * * * * * * *

Then we better start govening the nation by the Constitution.

No more global handouts, no more foreign aid. Tax revenue is the people’s money, not for politicians to give away.

No nation building. Terrorists and pirates must be treated the same - find them, hang them, and then move on.

No more global policing. Bring our troops home. WWII was over a long, long time ago, and we’re STILL in Germany and Japan. Those nations can take of themselves. If attacked, we’ll of course help our allies but stationing hundreds of thousands of US troops overseas? No.

Get out of the United Nations, and order the UN out of the United States.


14 posted on 10/01/2012 12:21:02 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: AmericanSamurai
"Could be taken over?"

Have you had a look at what's been living in the White House for the last 4 years???

Forward

15 posted on 10/01/2012 12:21:27 PM PDT by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: preamble

Indeed. The country was already taken over by a foreign invader in 2008.


16 posted on 10/01/2012 12:21:54 PM PDT by greene66
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To: AmericanSamurai
Shows how out-of-touch the Texas dud is. America has already been taken over by a foreign enemy invader. His name is Barack Obama.
17 posted on 10/01/2012 12:25:14 PM PDT by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine.)
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To: jeffc

We need a modern day Charles Martel!


18 posted on 10/01/2012 12:26:17 PM PDT by AmericanSamurai
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To: SatinDoll
Terrorists and pirates must be treated the same - find them, hang them

Yeah, that's a lot of time and trouble. Can't we just blow them up? (death by explosive combustion) That would solve the hassle of disposal as well.

19 posted on 10/01/2012 12:27:20 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: AmericanSamurai

We ARE being taken over. His name is Barack Hussein 0bama or Barry Soetoro or whatever.. His past is unknown. We’re not really sure who his handlers are; Could be Russia, the Saudi’s, or a shadowy U.N. group. He uses a stolen birth certificate, stolen Social Security number and proven forged Selective Service card. Page 11 from his mother’s (Ann Dunham) divorce papers is missing. Flight manifest records for his mother’s flight from Indonesia to Hawaii for the date range of his birth are also missing. Some hospital records from the week of 0bama’s alleged birth date are missing. His book was written by someone else, there is no proof he ever attended Columbia University. He hasn’t gone to their reunions nor has he been asked to speak at any reunion there.. no one remembers him being there and he isn’t shown in any alumni lists from that university.


20 posted on 10/01/2012 12:27:57 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: AmericanSamurai

also, I can’t remember the Commander’s name, but he led his troops in the Philippines against the Morros, shot the muslims dead and then doused them in pig’s fat/guts. Anyone remember his name?


21 posted on 10/01/2012 12:28:05 PM PDT by AmericanSamurai
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To: AmericanSamurai

He was right about the giant sucking sound.


22 posted on 10/01/2012 12:28:17 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: AmericanSamurai
H. Ross Perot = that Giant Stupid Sound!

thanks for 8 years of Clinton you pathetic, mewling piece of crap!

23 posted on 10/01/2012 12:28:59 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: AmericanSamurai
As I posted on an earlier Perot thread;

According to all I read here at FR, the votes for Perot in '92 came from people who would otherwise have voted for Bush. Has the GOP ever stopped to think just WHY they lost 19% of the electorate in '92?

24 posted on 10/01/2012 12:31:45 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: AmericanSamurai

What an idiot. HE could have easily become president had he just stayed in the race. Instead he got Clinton elected by pulling out the day of his DNC speech. Damn him to hell for that.


25 posted on 10/01/2012 12:33:09 PM PDT by montag813
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To: greene66

And he’s using single females, homosexuals and lesbians, Hispanics/illegal aliens, blacks with ‘free phones’ to crush Americans who “cling to their guns and Bibles (religion)”.


26 posted on 10/01/2012 12:33:35 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: AmericanSamurai

Hey Perot, we thought you was a toad. Do not seek the treasure and, and drop dead you old POS.


27 posted on 10/01/2012 12:34:00 PM PDT by Gator113 (I would have voted for NEWT, now it's Ryan and the other guy.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: Uncle Chip
his daughter’s wedding or is it his granddaughter’s 4th grade graduation ceremony

Maybe it's the other way around.

28 posted on 10/01/2012 12:35:34 PM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (A moral wrong is not a civil right: No religious sanction of an irreligious act.)
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To: AmericanSamurai
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29 posted on 10/01/2012 12:35:36 PM PDT by CodeToad (Padmé: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: AmericanSamurai

we are being taken over and the invasion has been going on for a while. We even fund them and set up sanctuary cities to provide them bases


30 posted on 10/01/2012 12:36:15 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Roccus
Has the GOP ever stopped to think just WHY they lost 19% of the electorate in '92?

I'm sure they have and if the rest of the 19% is anything like the Perot voters I knew it was because Ross appealed to the more idiotic.

Truly...these people were captivated by the "charisma" of Perot and nothing else...no reason involved.

Perot peddled no memorable policy changes...he peddled snake oil.

31 posted on 10/01/2012 12:45:23 PM PDT by what's up
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To: AmericanSamurai

Shut up & sit down, Perot. You’ve already shown how much you care about this country.


32 posted on 10/01/2012 12:49:27 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: AmericanSamurai

Ross is an idiot. But then he’s always been an idiot.

The US conventional military is at least as powerful as that of the rest of the world put together. While we couldn’t conquer the rest of the world with our present conventional forces, we most certainly could repel an invasion by the rest of the world. And of course there is no way the rest of the world would join into a coalition against us.

Our Navy is quite literally beyond compare. A recent thread was obsessing about the Chinese getting a single carrier, which they may or may not be able to use effectively. Operating a carrier group is perhaps the most complex routine operation ever undertaken in the history of mankind. I believe we have 11 or 12 fully functional carrier groups.

If a country has nukes, which we do, then conventional military forces are more or less irrelevant when it comes to resisting invasion.

Unless either Canada or Mexico is going to invade and conquer us, which doesn’t seem particularly likely, anybody who invades will have to come by sea. How they gonna get here? It’s an awful long way on an inner tube or an oil tanker.

Assuming he’s talking about a US fiscal collapse, which is of course quite possible, then the world economy will go down with us. There is no conceivable scenario by which the US economy collapses but the Chinese economy thrives, at least in the short term.

When it comes to foreign debt, I always think of some comedian who was discussing the Chinese buying up our debt and what might happen when they try to collect it when we go past due.

China: We want our money.

US: We don’t have it.

China: We want our money. If you don’t give it to us we’ll take it. What did you spend it all on anyway?

US: Well, mostly on all these missiles with nuclear warheads...

China: Never mind.

Exactly how is anyone going to go about “collecting” a debt we can’t or won’t pay?


33 posted on 10/01/2012 12:49:50 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: what's up
I'm sure they have...

Looking at the candidates fielded by the GOP since '92, I just don't see it.

(and yes, I voted for each of them....not as a measure of suport, but only as a vote against the Rats)

34 posted on 10/01/2012 12:57:09 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: AmericanSamurai

They say it was Black Jack Pershing.


35 posted on 10/01/2012 1:04:22 PM PDT by RochesterNYconservative (ROMNEY/RYAN 20121)
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To: AmericanSamurai
Ross has insider information on this subject.


36 posted on 10/01/2012 1:14:35 PM PDT by goron (Let's get this done!)
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To: AmericanSamurai
America could be ‘taken over,’ warns Ross Perot

You're a day late and a dollar short, Roscoe!

Pat Caddell slams the media: They have become an “enemy of the people” (video 26:00)

We were taken from within.

37 posted on 10/01/2012 1:15:53 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: wideminded

He sure was.


38 posted on 10/01/2012 1:22:30 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi)
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To: AmericanSamurai

Quick. Enter the presidential race before the Republicans conspire to interrupt your daughter’s wedding. There’s still time. The country needs you./s


39 posted on 10/01/2012 1:22:50 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: wideminded
He was right about the giant sucking sound.

Actually, he was wrong about that also. (Unless he said "in 15 years," which I don't recall he did).

40 posted on 10/01/2012 1:35:05 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: AmericanSamurai
We need a modern day Charles Martel!

Would be nice. I think a Vlad the Impaler would be wonders too. He definitely knew how to handle invaders.

41 posted on 10/01/2012 1:50:38 PM PDT by sand88
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To: Sherman Logan

I’m with you on the military power of the USA. What we need to watch for is creeping socialism. It’s boiling the pot now.

If the other frogs in the pot don’t jump out with the rest of us then they will be become lunch.


42 posted on 10/01/2012 1:54:29 PM PDT by soycd
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To: Sherman Logan

“If a country has nukes, which we do”

Of course if Hussein gets his way we’ll be left with 300 - 400 warheads.


43 posted on 10/01/2012 2:01:35 PM PDT by ScottfromNJ
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To: AmericanSamurai

Thank you Captain Obvious.


44 posted on 10/01/2012 2:08:56 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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To: soycd
Abe Lincoln in 1838:

Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant, to step the Ocean, and crush us at a blow? Never!--All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest; with a Buonaparte for a commander, could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in a trial of a thousand years.

It was true in 1838, it is far more true today.

He also pointed out how we could fail, and it's not by foreign conquest.

At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide.

http://showcase.netins.net/web/creative/lincoln/speeches/lyceum.htm

45 posted on 10/01/2012 2:11:17 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: Sherman Logan; AmericanSamurai; SamuraiScot; The_Media_never_lie; Gaffer; preamble; ...
When it comes to foreign debt, I always think of some comedian who was discussing the Chinese buying up our debt and what might happen when they try to collect it when we go past due. China: We want our money. US: We don’t have it. China: We want our money. If you don’t give it to us we’ll take it. What did you spend it all on anyway? US: Well, mostly on all these missiles with nuclear warheads... China: Never mind.

Exactly how is anyone going to go about “collecting” a debt we can’t or won’t pay?

You are posting exactly my thoughts of just a few years ago. But now things look a bit different.

Let's game this out from one other possible avenue.

First off, we don't own property if we owe property taxes.

We are merely renting it. Stop paying property tax (in federal dollars) and the local sheriff will come evict you.

Now suppose that Bernanke inflates us enough to where local towns have to raise property taxes to extraordinary levels you can't afford.

Well, they won't evict everyone, but the feds will certainly come in to "save the day" with a bailout just like every other crisis, to solve a problem that they created.

This will be a bailout or perhaps a collateral swap which will pay local governments lost tax revenue (to keep the sheriff busy confiscating) and which might also be crafted to magically pay down federal obligations to foreign creditors.

US: Hey China, we'll swap your bonds for a tranche of these New Fangled Property Tax Debt Obligations.

CHINA: Or what?

US: Or we'll keep inflating higher and erase your debt without a trace.

CHINA: OK, but what if the property owners default anyhow? Can I have the land?

US: No, that'd be like some invasion thing. We couldn't sell it overtly.

US: No worries, though. We can structure that anyhow. We'll just consolidate it here to a US-based bank balance sheet or such, and pay you from the next owner's equity. You're golden.

There's a lot of valuable "rental" property in America to be "had" this way. Foreign powers can't take it directly, and they don't want to have to destroy it (other than the muzzies), but they'd love to be co-landlords with the USGOV, Inc.--enforced by the US National Guard etc.

WWII began with a bunch of novel sneak attack tactics (Blitzkreig, Pearl Harbor). WWIII may not require any military, but it will be a sudden "how'd that happen" attack, I suspect.

46 posted on 10/01/2012 2:13:25 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: jeffc

“and then who you gonna’ call?”

Holy ghostbusters?


47 posted on 10/01/2012 2:19:33 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: ScottfromNJ

300 warheads would be more than enough to repel any possible invasion. Probably 100 would or even 50.

The reason for having a lot of warheads was never to use them to repel a conventional invasion. It was to have enough left over after a surprise first strike nuclear attack to ensure the attacker would also be destroyed. MADD.

It is doubtful even Russia has enough functioning nukes to launch a successful first strike.

I think a lot of people get confused about military power. It is always relative. It’s not absolute power that counts, it’s your military force relative to that of a potential enemy. While we may holler at each other, nobody seriously believes Britain or any of the western or central European countries would attack us.

So our potential enemies who have both possible intent and capability of attacking us with nukes are very limited.

Russia could, if willing to be destroyed itself, pretty much destroy the US at any time. I think it’s highly unlikely they’re nuts enough to do so. And there are serious doubts about how many of their missiles and warheads would actually function.

China has enough nukes to do major damage to USA, again if willing to be destroyed in return. They don’t have missile capacity to hit most of US.

No other potentially hostile (Pakistan, Iran, N Korea) nuclear power has both nukes and missile capacity. So like China they’d have to smuggle them into US. While by no means impossible, this is obviously a lot more likely to fail than a missile attack. And it would by definition pretty much be a terrorist attack, not a realistic attempt to destroy us. Nobody is going to be able to smuggle in 100 warheads.

While Iran (or rather the Iranian leaders) might very well be willing to be destroyed in response, I don’t think the others are, though Lord only knows who’ll be in control in Pakistan next week.

I really don’t think either India or Israel, like the European powers, would consider attacking us.


48 posted on 10/01/2012 2:28:35 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: AmericanSamurai

Last time I checked we stol had hikes. Plus, a gun behind every blade of grass, or however it is put.


49 posted on 10/01/2012 2:29:20 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: sam_paine

“Invasion” references sovereignty.

What you are talking about is who has “ownership” of a piece of property within that sovereignty. Very different concepts.

I recall how back in the 80s the Japanese were going to “take over” America by buying all the property. LOL


50 posted on 10/01/2012 2:32:08 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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