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Obama Experiences Epic Meltdown as Romney Crushes Him in First Debate
GATE ^ | 10/4/12 | Chuck Wolk

Posted on 10/04/2012 6:59:37 AM PDT by OneVike



I have seen many debates in my life, but never before have I witnessed such a complete defeat of an opponent. Obama was so outmatched, that it was almost as if Romney was toying with the one term president at times. It even seemed like he was holding back a chuckle, as he watched Obama incoherently ramble on in a pathetic attempt to match wits with a man who's IQ is vastly superior to his. More then a few times Obama wanted to continue, but wasn't allowed to because I am sure Jim felt pity that he would just inflict more damage upon himself. Maybe that's when Jim Lehrer realized that Obama was going to get routed.

Near the end of the debate, when Mitt responded to the question of what he thought the role of the government was, you could almost sense him going in for the kill as he began reciting the constitution and what our founding fathers meant by the words they wrote. By then Lehrer must have known that he was witnessing a meltdown of his Manchurian President. From beginning to end, Obama was playing small ball against a big leaguer who spent 90 minutes schooling him on the fine art of debating. If it were a boxing match, Jim would have stopped the debate while awarding Romney a TKO.

What I witnessed was a real leader exposing Barrack Hussein Obama to be nothing more than a small time community organizer. A small time Chicago thug being crushed by a like a cheap tin can. It was the kind of defeat that many do not recover from, and only time will tell if the man-child who would be king can. Yes, in my opinion, it was that complete of a defeat.

Truth is, if I had not watched it myself, I would not have believed it, but I have never been so delighted to admit I was wrong. Yesterday I posted my opinion that regardless of how bad Obama did, the MSM would find a way to claim he won. However, even when Ranaldus Magnus handed Carter his ass on a platter, he didn't look as pathetic as Obama did last night. Now we can all sit back and watch the MSM begin their damage control. After all, Obama's own campaign was downplaying his chances long before the debate began, so I expect them to quickly change the subject as they get back on message that Obama is invincible.

On FOX news,(video below) Krauthammer may have stated that he thought Romney won big by two touchdowns, but he preferenced it by making excuses for Obama when he brought up the way George Bush lost to John Kerry in their first debate. He went on to say that, like Bush, he expects Obama to recover and do better in the next debate. So it seems like inside the beltway Charly has already began downplaying the significance of Obama's meltdown. (by the way, GW did not lose that first debate to Kerry)

As I scan the reports, it looks like most conservative and liberal pundits think Romney won decisively. Republican National Committee chairman, Reince Priebus, believes the debate will go down in history as "one of the most historically one-sided debates in history."

Liberal comedian and TV host, Bill Maher, tweeted: "Obama's not looking like he came for a job interview, Romney so far does." In another tweet he said,"Obama made a lot of great points tonight. Unfortunately, most of them were for Romney".

Bill Gasto, a senior fellow of the liberal think tank, Brookings Institute, commented that: "Romney did himself considerable good. ... I would not be surprised to learn that a majority of American people think he won it outright." Probably the most telling response came from MSNBC's uber liberal pundit Chris Matthews, who was so upset with Obama that he recommended the president begin watching more MSNBC:

"Where was Obama tonight? He should watch -- well not just Hardball, Rachel, he should watch you, the Reverend Al, Lawrence. There's a hot debate going on in this country, here on this network is where we're having the debate. We have our knives out, we go after the people and the facts. What was he doing tonight? He went in there disarmed."

I am guessing that Mathews has lost that tingling feeling he had in his legs for Obama, after he listened to a speech he gave during the 2008 Democrat primary.(video above)

I understand that somewhere between 55 and 60 million Americans were expected to tune into the debate. In a poll of 430 people by CNN/ORC International, 67% thought Romney won, compared to 25% for Obama. A CBS News instant poll, had uncommitted voters agreeing by 2 to 1 that Romney beat Obama, and in an experimental online poll by Google, 38.9% to 35.5% thought Obama was performing better early in the debate, but after the debate ended, the numbers were 47.8% to 25.4% in Romney's favor. All that being said, I expect that by the time they meet for the next debate on October 16, the media will have discovered enough problems with Romney's win to have convinced at least half the voters that that Obama had actually won.

Only time will tell, but it's no secret that I have thought this race was over before it began. That's why I am still upset with my fellow republicans who fell for the lie that only a moderate could beat Obama. I think any one of the Republican primary candidates would have done just as good against Obama, but we are stuck with Romney.

For those who are inclined to betting, two offshore gambling sites both have Obama losing ground. Pinnacle Sports, has Obama's at 73% odds of winning re-election, where as his chances were at 80% before the debate, that's a 7% drop. Intrade of Ireland has Obama's odds dropping to 66% for winning, down 12% from 78% before the debate. Finally, I wanted to share the video below of Sarah Palin's take on the debate with you. She almost felt sorry for Obama.


==================NEXT DEBATE==================

October 16, 2012
President Barack Obama and Governor Mitt Romney

    Topic: Town meeting format including foreign and domestic policy
    Air Time: 9:00-10:30 p.m. Eastern Time
    Location: Hofstra University in Hempstead, New York (Tickets)
    Sponsor: Commission on Presidential Debates
    Participants: President Barack Obama and Governor Mitt Romney
    Moderator: Candy Crowley (CNN Chief Political Correspondent)

    The second presidential debate will take the form of a town meeting,
    in which citizens will ask questions of the candidates on foreign
    and domestic issues. Candidates each will have two minutes to
    respond, and an additional minute for the moderator to facilitate
    a discussion. The town meeting participants will be undecided
    voters selected by the Gallup Organization.






TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2012debates; debate; election2012; obama; romney
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I woke up this morning, and still felt good about the debate last night. It was sweet!
1 posted on 10/04/2012 6:59:46 AM PDT by OneVike
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To: OneVike

Solid win for Romney. This will add even more momentum as we move into the last month of the campaign.


2 posted on 10/04/2012 7:02:39 AM PDT by Kharis13 (That noise you hear is our Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: OneVike

Yet, many of the defeatists on this site are convinced that this was a strategic move by Zero who will now mop the floor with Romney in the remaining two debates.

Sheesh!


3 posted on 10/04/2012 7:02:48 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Re-distribute my work ethic, not my wealth.)
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To: Arm_Bears

Zero’s best strategy for the next two debates is to stay home sick.........


4 posted on 10/04/2012 7:07:06 AM PDT by Stayfree (Find out how Obama is destroying America at White House Commie.com!!)
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To: Arm_Bears
That's ridiculous. Obama the narcissist would never allow himself to be defeated, even for some ploy to win further down the road.

Look for Obama to pull a switchblade on Romney now. Gutter politics is all Obama knows. Last night, he was out of his element because someone decided he should use civility in dealing with Mitt. That's foreign to Obama and it showed.

5 posted on 10/04/2012 7:11:09 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: Arm_Bears; Kharis13

It was a great win, and as far as the defeatists are concerned, nothing will make them happy.

I guess part of it is probably the way we all thought for sure GW would crush both Gore and Kerry, yet they managed to make the race tight. Gore had to be stopped by the courts. So part of me understands, yet I know way too many who voted for Obama in “08” that have told me they are voting for Romney.

Not that it matters in Ca, but it does speak volumes for voters across the country.

I need to head to work, so I hate to post and run, but I am blessed to still be employed in spite of Obama.

I’ll catch up on comments when I get to work.


6 posted on 10/04/2012 7:12:11 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike

It gets better....12 days until the next debate. Barry is going to have to devote considerable time to nursing his ego, and trying to get better prepared.

Its a different format (townhall)...but he’s got to be more than a little worried that he will fail again.


7 posted on 10/04/2012 7:15:03 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Arm_Bears

I am waiting for diogenes and the trolls to spew.


8 posted on 10/04/2012 7:15:09 AM PDT by DWC (historian)
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To: lacrew

Romney just needs to hold up a sign

“The ambassador is dead and Al Queda is alive”

Baraq debating on foreign policy should be a lot of fun.


9 posted on 10/04/2012 7:18:25 AM PDT by nascarnation (Defeat Baraq 2012. Deport Baraq 2013)
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To: OneVike
Greta had on a Democrat, Jen Psaki (?), who is either White House staff or an Obama campaign official (not that there is much difference), who was claiming that Obama scored lots of good points which will hurt Romney.

I have seen Psaki's name mentioned once or twice before but haven't learned which planet she is from.

10 posted on 10/04/2012 7:22:18 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: OneVike
I've been waiting for Proverbs 16:18 (Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty before a fall) to show obama his karma.

Apparently, the wait is over.

Given obama's character and integrity, things should get nasty from here on.

Have the mops and buckets ready. Clean-up needed in the White House aisle...once the storm has passed.

11 posted on 10/04/2012 7:26:00 AM PDT by GBA (The line is drawn, two choices left: We must pull back from the line or be forced to cross it.)
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To: Verginius Rufus
I have seen Psaki's name mentioned once or twice before but haven't learned which planet she is from.

Same planet the one term VP, O'Biteme, is living on, He claims Obama won big, and that the election is over.

Yea, right!

Off to work now, later.
12 posted on 10/04/2012 7:30:27 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike
Krauthammer is on record many times calling Obama "intelligent." When Krauthammer really means is that Krauthammer is intelligent, because he's intelligent enough to see that Obama is intelligent.

I never thought Obama was very bright at all. He's never expressed an original thought in an original way, even on teleprompter. What has surprised me over the past few years is that Obama is acutely lazy. He wouldn't prepare for this debate because he's just too shiftless and callow to put in the work!!

13 posted on 10/04/2012 7:35:30 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Arm_Bears
That's crazy talk.

Even if true, it's a huge gamble. Who can erase from their memory the image of the shrunken, ashen and angry obama we all saw last night?

Personally, I never want to because it's been the finest hour of this nightmare four years.

14 posted on 10/04/2012 7:35:29 AM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Mamzelle

Yup, I’d say Romney has around 40 IQ points on Obama.


15 posted on 10/04/2012 7:38:54 AM PDT by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: OneVike

16 posted on 10/04/2012 7:39:14 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Libs, dems, unions, leftist scum & murderous muzzies - are like bacteria: attack, attack, attack!)
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To: Stayfree
Zero’s best strategy for the next two debates is to stay home sick.........

Excuse will be "I'm too busy overseeing our anti-terrorist actions in Libya..."


17 posted on 10/04/2012 7:45:08 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Mamzelle
Krauthammer is on record many times calling Obama "intelligent."

Graduates of Ivy League schools can never bring themselves to concede that other graduates of Ivy League schools are anything less than brilliant.

Unless your last name is "Bush".


18 posted on 10/04/2012 7:47:53 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: OneVike

“with a man who’s IQ is vastly superior to his.”

English, R.I.P.


19 posted on 10/04/2012 7:50:33 AM PDT by Darth Reardon (No offense to drunken sailors)
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To: Verginius Rufus
"Greta had on a Democrat, Jen Psaki (?), who is either White House staff or an Obama campaign official (not that there is much difference), who was claiming that Obama scored lots of good points which will hurt Romney."

That idiot was on Fox earlier. She was an absolute babbling, delusional lunatic. Bill Hemmer could not get her to admit that Obama had a bad night, and he was openly incredulous. Lanny Davis was in the next segment, and he was in disbelief that the Obama campaign even let her out to speak.

20 posted on 10/04/2012 7:58:57 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Don't be afraid to see what you see. (Ronald Reagan))
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To: nascarnation
Ryan and Biden are up next week.

That's gonna be like watching the second half of a college football game after the team losing 45 - 0 gets their starting quartback knocked out of the game........You just pray they can at least gain a first down.

21 posted on 10/04/2012 8:07:22 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (')
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To: Hot Tabasco

It’ll be like the 4th inning of yesterday’s A’s-Rangers game.


22 posted on 10/04/2012 8:10:24 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: OneVike

obama has had a free ride from the media and gop no one has called him on his lies until now obama didnt know what to do when called on his lies he’s never experienced it...he got pummeled and looked like the lying clown he is


23 posted on 10/04/2012 8:20:36 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Arm_Bears

I can’t wait for Ryan to hammer biteme ....he better be careful though people might see him as beating up on an old person...


24 posted on 10/04/2012 8:33:08 AM PDT by databoss
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To: liberalh8ter
Obama the narcissist would never allow himself to be defeated, even for some ploy to win further down the road.

That's absolutely right. He lost last night not out of some brilliant master strategy - he lost because he's an incompetent boob. However, I will say that he can only go up in the media's estimation. His awful performance last night gives his lapdogs in the media plenty of room to talk about his comeback in the next two debates.

25 posted on 10/04/2012 8:37:21 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: DWC; Diogenes
...diogenes and the trolls...

Second time I've seen someone disparage that Freeper without giving him a courtesy ping to the comment. Has that become the new diss at Free Republic?

26 posted on 10/04/2012 8:52:19 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Mamzelle
What has surprised me over the past few years is that Obama is acutely lazy. He wouldn't prepare for this debate because he's just too shiftless and callow to put in the work!!

Obama hasn't shown up for work since day one of his presidency. No president has partied harder, golfed more, or vacationed so much on the public's dime. He can't properly debate the topics concerned with the job because he's mostly been playing hooky the last four years.

27 posted on 10/04/2012 8:56:10 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: old and tired
Normally I'd agree because there is nowhere to go but up, even if he loses because the press would say he performed better than in the first debate however, foreign policy is coming up; there's NOTHING he can say on that subject that can help him. The only issues the sycophantic press have been able to manipulate are the economy, health care and immigration. Two of the three were covered last night and on these subjects, Mitt removed decades of dirt from the venue floor with Obama last night.

Obama is toast; his only options are to continue to take the beatings from Mitt and in turn, watch his residency come to its rightful end or to come up with an creative means to avoid further debate.

28 posted on 10/04/2012 8:58:07 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: GBA
I've been waiting for Proverbs 16:18 to show Obama his karma. Given Obama's character and integrity......
things should get nasty from here on.

I saw the writing on the wall when the delegates at the DNC convention loudly denied God, not once, but three times.

If these fools only knew what they did that day. There was about 40% of the delegates that understood the ramifications, and they tried to drown the the "nay's", but there was just too many little anti-Christs in that stadium. I am reminded of what happened to Nebuchadnezzar after he arrogantly claimed,
"Is not this great Babylon, that I have built for a royal dwelling by my mighty power and for the honor of my majesty?" Daniel 4:30-37
God will not be mocked, and the Democrat party has set themselves up for something they are not even prepared to understand. That is why they and the media are so ignorantly believing their own cooked poll numbers.

The Bible is filled with arrogant people who mocked God, and it seems we are obviously living in the time that Paul spoke of when he wrote;
"The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness. 2Thessalonians 2:9-12

I am not claiming Obama is the lawless one, but it's evident that even a vast number of Americans are of the mindset that will one day willingly follow the lawless one. That makes this election all that much more important.

Be prepared for God to set the record straight one more time on November 6th, because it very well could be the last time Christian conservatives are truly happy after an election.

Lord Jesus come quickly,
OV
29 posted on 10/04/2012 9:02:32 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: Windflier
Obama hasn't shown up for work since day one of his presidency. No president has partied harder, golfed more, or vacationed so much on the public's dime

You fail to understand, he never was supposed to be working. He is just the front man for those who are really running things. They know he's an idiot, it's just that they truly thought Americans would roll over and die after his first term.

Like all enemies of America, from King George to Saddam, they vastly underestimated the American spirit.
30 posted on 10/04/2012 9:09:07 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: Darth Reardon
“with a man who’s IQ is vastly superior to his.”

English, R.I.P.

Dittos. I noticed the same thing.

31 posted on 10/04/2012 9:10:57 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: OneVike

I think the Chicago thugee is faking for Abigail come back.


32 posted on 10/04/2012 9:11:14 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: longfellow

The Chicago Thug doesn’t and never had the intelligence nor the wisdom to stand against anyone who knows what they are talking about. Without a teleprompter, a politician cannot cannot make up things on then fly they don’t believe in.

I am betting Obama will lose even worse next time. Have you ever beat someone at something you were told ahead of time that you did not have a chance to beat?

I have, and what happens is the next time you go against them, you actually smell blood. Romney did not just defeat Obama in a debate good enough, he decimated him.

I truly do not think Obama has ever been bitch-slapped like Romney did last night. It was the type of defeat that makes the loser actually question their own ability. That my friend, is something his handlers have protected him against throughout his short political.

Up until now, they always had his opponents defeated before they debated, and so his opponent was unable to fight, and that is what the last few weeks of cooked polling and negative media coverage was supposed to do to Romney. Someone forgot to tell Mitt he was supposed but rollover and quit like McCain and his other opponents in Illinois did.


33 posted on 10/04/2012 9:37:45 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike
Your post is full of good, old fashioned common sense.

It's hard not to watch events and remember our recent history and not be reminded of a sting operation or a crime spree.

The perp has crossed the line and attracted the attention of those in authority, only the kid doesn't know that and keeps on screwing up, building the case against him.

At some point, the damage is done and there is no turning back or stopping what's coming next. The wheels have begun to turn against him and once in motion, like a ship going over the waterfall, there's not a thing he can do to stop what's coming, only ride it out and hope to survive it.

Unfortunately, We, the People, are going over the falls with him. In this we truly are our brother's keepers, but not just for his sake, but for our own as well. What happens to the perp, happens to us all.

We need to undo some of our offenses, such as our legalizing infanticide, before it's too late to stop or moderate what's coming.

34 posted on 10/04/2012 10:03:28 AM PDT by GBA (The line is drawn, two choices left: We must pull back from the line or be forced to cross it.)
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To: GBA

You’re too kind.

I agree we need to get unified and reverse some of if not all of “our offenses” as you put it.

Unfortunately, now that we know Roberts is a mugwump worried about bad press, I doubt we will succeed.

Truth is, I expect the Supreme Court to legalize same sex marriage by next December, and you can forget about ending America’s greatest sin infanticide.

Let us remember to keep Romney in our prayers that he will have the wisdom to lead this nation back to where it needs to get.

I also pray that God opens his eyes and mind to the truth about Mormonism. He can either be a tool of God and bring millions into the fold, or a tool for Satan by normalizing it. If the later, then he could open the door for hundred of millions more souls to be condemned to an eternal damnation.

I support him, because we elect a political leader, not a religious leader, but leaders do have influence on people moral and faith.


35 posted on 10/04/2012 10:54:52 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike

I heard someone at work say that he was beaten like a runaway slave!


36 posted on 10/04/2012 10:57:25 AM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment (Is this field required?)
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To: OneVike

That is an interesting take on why Lehrer kept interrupting Obama to move on, because he was trying to protect him from himself. Hmmm.


37 posted on 10/04/2012 10:58:00 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit (School is prison for children who have commited the crime of being born. (attr: St_Thomas_Aquinas))
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To: OneVike

Liberal tears. The very sweetest of all tears. Mmm Mmm Mmm, Liberal tears!


38 posted on 10/04/2012 11:00:44 AM PDT by kevao (Is your ocean any lower than it was four years ago?)
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To: liberalh8ter
Normally I'd agree because there is nowhere to go but up, even if he loses because the press would say he performed better than in the first debate however, foreign policy is coming up; there's NOTHING he can say on that subject that can help him.

That's a good point. Mitt handled the Middle East fiasco so much better than I was expecting. I have to admit I'm very much enjoying watching the liberals and their lap dogs in the media defend Obama today.

I've never understood why everyone just accepted that Mr. Uh Uh Uh was some great orator. I never saw it - even when speaking flawlessly from the TOTUS, he always struck me as an arrogant, condescending SOB. And without it, he was all um um um. Obviously, I wasn't the only one thinking that - my guess is that Jon Stewart heard it plenty and that's why he's so quick to jump on the possibility that all those um's back in 2008 were stupidity and not deep thought.

39 posted on 10/04/2012 11:04:21 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: liberalh8ter

ON Fox they were discussing watching Obama for his typical body language showing he was frustrated, and how he had toned it down.


40 posted on 10/04/2012 11:05:39 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit (School is prison for children who have commited the crime of being born. (attr: St_Thomas_Aquinas))
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To: OneVike

Unfortunately for the Left, while Obama gets 2 weeks to prepare for the next round, Biden goes up against Ryan on Thursday the 11th (9-1030pm). It’s going to get worse before any chance of getting better for them.


41 posted on 10/04/2012 11:14:02 AM PDT by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: ican'tbelieveit
Yeah, he did tone down the body language but instead, he wore it all over his face. He's a petulant, spoiled child and it shows! Mitt was the adult who put him in the corner for telling lies.

Did you see the look of desperation as Obama looked to Lehrer for help? Obama was looking for his affirmative action lifeline last night and it was nowhere to be found.

42 posted on 10/04/2012 11:14:28 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: liberalh8ter

According to an article I read a few minutes ago, Lehrer let Obama have 4 minutes more than Romney. And, I felt the analysis is spot on, Lehrer was trying to do Obama a favor, cutting him off some times.


43 posted on 10/04/2012 11:29:58 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit (School is prison for children who have commited the crime of being born. (attr: St_Thomas_Aquinas))
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To: OneVike

I wish I could have been a fly on the wall last night to see how Obumble expressed his frustration. Hillary used to throw lamps. I wonder what he does? We know he can’t throw worth spit.


44 posted on 10/04/2012 11:31:18 AM PDT by Rainbow Rising (Hey hey, ho ho, in 2012 Obama's got to go!)
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To: ican'tbelieveit
There was definitely collusion there!
45 posted on 10/04/2012 11:34:02 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment
I heard someone at work say that he was beaten like a runaway slave!
Kunta Kinte? Is that you?
46 posted on 10/04/2012 11:44:23 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: Arm_Bears

Obama doesn’t have to mop the floor with Romney. After last night, any improvement will be lauded and gushed over by the media to the point that Obama will be the new Comeback Kid.


47 posted on 10/04/2012 11:55:38 AM PDT by Chaguito
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To: Windflier

The reason there is no ping is because he vanished.


48 posted on 10/04/2012 2:13:12 PM PDT by DWC (historian)
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To: DWC
The reason there is no ping is because he vanished.

Diogenes hasn't vanished. He posted just last Saturday, and his account is still active.

http://www.freerepublic.com/~diogenes/

Just because you don't see a Freeper on a thread doesn't mean it's ok to disparage them behind their back.

49 posted on 10/04/2012 4:32:53 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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OOPS. I miss his disparaging remarks about romney. Maybe he gave up.
50 posted on 10/04/2012 6:13:47 PM PDT by DWC (historian)
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