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Ailes responds to MSNBC: "You can have Shep Smith, but you've got to take Juan Williams also."
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Posted on 10/04/2012 5:19:46 PM PDT by ken5050

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Insiders at FOX have been complaining bitterly ever since FOX gave Williams a huge, multi-million, multi year deal, after he was fired from NPR over comments that allegedly were insentitive to Muslims.

One FOX on-air personality said, not for attribution, that "Basically, Williams is dumb as a rock. He drags down the level of discussion on the panel, and Brit Hume has a perpetual pain in his neck from glaring in astonishment at all the insipid, inane things Williams says."

"Geez" said another. "We can get Alan Colmes to do the same crap for 1/20 the price. And at least this way we keep in in the family." ( For those who aren't aware, Colmes is married to Monica Crowley's sister.)

Ailes is known to have regretted signing Williams to the big deal, especially since NPR senior management gloats about it all the time at industry gatherings. He'd just love to be able to move Juan's contract, but as yet has found no takers.

Would Ailes be willing to pick up some of the cost of William's contract to make the deal? When asked, he smiled, and said, "it's open. Anything and everything is always on the table in negotiations. But they'd have to give me something back in return. Maybe S.E. Cupp. She shows a lot of potential. Could be a major leaguer in the near future."

1 posted on 10/04/2012 5:19:53 PM PDT by ken5050
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To: maggief; Reaganite Republican

FYI


2 posted on 10/04/2012 5:20:49 PM PDT by ken5050 (Barack Obama: An empty suit sitting in an empty chair...)
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To: ken5050

Send the Chris Wallace too. He has gone from being an insufferable twit to and out and out Obama campaigner.

Fox should fire him.


3 posted on 10/04/2012 5:21:57 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: ken5050

LOL


4 posted on 10/04/2012 5:23:38 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: ken5050
"Geez" said another. "We can get Alan Colmes to do the same crap for 1/20 the price. And at least this way we keep in in the family." ( For those who aren't aware, Colmes is married to Monica Crowley's sister.)

Ideology aside, Colmes is a pretty good guy. He helped out John Derbyshire after the guy was booted from National Review. Ideology is one thing, but friends are people who'll help you out in times of trouble with more than just words.

5 posted on 10/04/2012 5:25:26 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: ken5050

Please, if you can’t arrange a twofer, let them please take Shep.


6 posted on 10/04/2012 5:30:14 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: MNJohnnie
Say did you notice Chris Wallace after the debate last night? he had a frown and sad face and looked pi$$ed..made me jump up and down and shout out...too funny.

and I would love to see shep Smith go, he would fit in there very well.

7 posted on 10/04/2012 5:31:55 PM PDT by haircutter (.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Wish they would replace Bill O with Lou Dobbs. Bill O treats grown men like they are 8 year olds.


8 posted on 10/04/2012 5:32:31 PM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: ken5050

Take Juan for crying out loud! He is absolutely insufferable. Bob Beckel is tolerable as is Alan Colmes but Juan needs to go!!!!!


9 posted on 10/04/2012 5:34:14 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: ken5050

Yes, by all means. And if they could also unload Whore Aldo it would be a trifecta.

Ailes should trade all three of these clowns for one of the janitors at PMSNBC.


10 posted on 10/04/2012 5:34:33 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: ken5050
They should just cut their losses with Juan. The guy is actually running off viewers!

I have a simple message for Mr. Ailes and it goes like this.

When the libs come on, the show goes off!!

I'm mainly talking about their guests but that also includes Juan Williams, Bob Beckel, etc. etc.

11 posted on 10/04/2012 5:45:22 PM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: dandiegirl

[ Wish they would replace Bill O with Lou Dobbs. Bill O treats grown men like they are 8 year olds. ]

I’m no O’really person BUT O’really is the best RINO they have..
Not a pretty as Dana Perino, Kirsten Powers, Lis Wiehl or Megyn Kelly but not as democrat as Shemp Smith.. or Juan Sharpton or whatever his name is..


12 posted on 10/04/2012 5:46:18 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: ken5050
One FOX on-air personality said, not for attribution, that "Basically, Williams is dumb as a rock. He drags down the level of discussion on the panel, and Brit Hume has a perpetual pain in his neck from glaring in astonishment at all the insipid, inane things Williams says."


But but but Juan represents Obama and Dems brilliantly!

13 posted on 10/04/2012 5:48:09 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: ken5050

Show Bob Beckel the door, too.


14 posted on 10/04/2012 5:51:07 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: ken5050
Juan's entire contribution seems to be brow-knitting, condescendingly smiling, and regurgitating boilerplate lefty dogma.

He's about engaging and intellectually challenging as a chronic yeast infection.

15 posted on 10/04/2012 5:54:00 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: ken5050

I’m definitely in favor of the schlep of Shep.


16 posted on 10/04/2012 5:59:12 PM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (We're an Oligrachy...Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ken5050

Anything to get Shep off Fox.


17 posted on 10/04/2012 6:00:53 PM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: Zhang Fei

...Colmes is a pretty good guy.

&&&
Would that be the same Colmes who described in such disgusting terms the way the Santorums’ mourned the death of their stillborn baby boy?


18 posted on 10/04/2012 6:02:21 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: Bigg Red

Santorums’= Santorums


19 posted on 10/04/2012 6:03:18 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: Bigg Red
I can agree with most of the "get rid ofs" on this thread, especially that insufferable Smith, but I am surprised no one mentioned the worst of them all: Geraldo.

When either of those 2 twits invades my screen the mute function is deployed.

20 posted on 10/04/2012 6:08:37 PM PDT by Robwin
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To: SharpRightTurn
And if they could also unload Whore Aldo it would be a trifecta.

I was a dedicated Fox watcher until 2001. Then they hired scumbag Geraldo. That day I turned off the TV and have literally never turned it back on since then. I don't miss it a bit.

21 posted on 10/04/2012 6:15:26 PM PDT by KevinB (We'll stop treating Obama like a dog when he stops treating us like a fire hydrant - Fred Grandy)
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To: Bigg Red

Not so professional behavior on Ailes part. Rather unbelievable, actually. He knew who Juan Williams was, and he is paid to be exactly that— a liberal, of a Republican son in addition.

Juan is mild mannered and to be taken seriously Brit Hume has to show him some irritability. Combs is a Marxist. Juan is not.

How else does Ailles justify “fair and balanced”?


22 posted on 10/04/2012 6:16:37 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY)
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To: ken5050

MSNBC should take the deal....Juan could replace the token black guy at MSNBC in Al Sharpron....

Someone might actually tune in that time slot into see Juan...at least he can speak proper english language....

also....At least Juan isn’t mildly retarded like Rev. Al...


23 posted on 10/04/2012 6:17:41 PM PDT by Popman (In a place you only dream of Where your soul is always free)
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To: ken5050
Maybe S.E. Cupp. She shows a lot of potential. Could be a major leaguer in the near future

S. E. Cupp is a major leaguer in my book

24 posted on 10/04/2012 6:19:42 PM PDT by varon (I remember when America was American.)
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To: ken5050

Colmes is married to a female?!! Who knew!!!


25 posted on 10/04/2012 6:19:49 PM PDT by llevrok (By comparison to Obama, at least Nero could play a fiddle.)
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To: KevinB

bttt


26 posted on 10/04/2012 6:20:14 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: ken5050

cant stand Williams..


27 posted on 10/04/2012 6:21:48 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: ken5050

Give them Bob Shmuckel and Bergaldo Rivera too please kthx.


28 posted on 10/04/2012 6:21:48 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: RitaOK

i AGREE WITH YOU.

Juan, Colmes, Beckel and even Whoraldo are what they say in sales..”Loss Leaders”. They bring in some independents and just some people who like the whoraldo drama..then those stay around long enough to hear some good conservatives.


29 posted on 10/04/2012 6:24:29 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: ken5050
"In his first response to the comments by the head of MSNBC, that the "one FOX on-air personality they would like to have is Sheppard Smith,"

MSNBC knows "gay" when they see gay. And they've seen Shep. Send them Shep. He'll fit right in over there.

30 posted on 10/04/2012 6:45:12 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

VERY good point!

I like Juan, and do NOT take him seriously. He is a good little role player, means no real harm, and plays straight guy to the blonde starlets and the big FOX names so they can look like rolled brilliance.

He is indebted to his friends at FOX, has expressed his gratitude and he is privately very close to Sean and O’Reilly.


31 posted on 10/04/2012 7:07:52 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY)
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To: ken5050

It is somewhat entertaining watching Juan getting bitch-slapped over and over again in roundtable discussions. I say toss in Geraldo and 3/5’s of The Five.


32 posted on 10/04/2012 7:14:01 PM PDT by maggief
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Dana Perrino said today that Juan was the ONLY person at FOX who thought that Oabma WON the debate last night..


33 posted on 10/04/2012 7:16:03 PM PDT by ken5050 (Barack Obama: An empty suit sitting in an empty chair...)
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To: ken5050

Colmes is married to Monica Crowley’s sister.)

Well we now know who got the Brains in the Crowley Family.....


34 posted on 10/04/2012 7:16:53 PM PDT by LtKerst
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To: MNJohnnie

Send the Chris Wallace too. He has gone from being an insufferable twit to and out and out Obama campaigner.

Fox should fire him.


Please please send Beckel too!


35 posted on 10/04/2012 7:27:08 PM PDT by DefeatCorruption
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To: ken5050
I truly do not watch Fox at all anymore - FoxBusiness is my on-channel on my DVR. Only time I watch Fox at all is on the weekend when FoxBiz is on infomercials, but then Fox is FoxBiz - so it works out. LOL
36 posted on 10/04/2012 7:35:18 PM PDT by mykroar (October race/religious riots bring November martial law. Voting postponed for your safety.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Please, if you can’t arrange a twofer, let them please take Shep.

Who will anchor?

37 posted on 10/04/2012 7:36:23 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Take two Aspirin and call me in November - Obama for Hindmost.)
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To: ken5050

Send PMSNBC Shep, he and Hissy Chrissy can hump each other while watching Obama videos.


38 posted on 10/04/2012 7:38:46 PM PDT by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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Williams is insufferable.

I thought with NPR he would have had his road to Damascus moment but, he didn’t. If nothing else his contract has given him free reign to act stupidly. He brings nothing to the table, really, nothing.

As much as I disagree with Beckel at least I know he has a very human side. He was one of the few on the left to publicly defend Rush Limbaugh during his drug addiction revelations. Beckel, a recovering alcoholic, said it is one human condition that does not discriminate by political leaning, education, background etc. and he was right. Because of that brave defense I cut the guy a lot of slack, more than he deserves often times.

I would love to see Shep off of Fox. I have always and I mean always thought he was nothing but a puff piece pretty boy anchor and couldn’t understand his appeal. I found him haughty, condescending and insufferably smug. That was an opinion I had of him from the first time I saw him when he may have been reporting on something as inane as a dog rescued from a storm sewer too.


39 posted on 10/04/2012 7:48:03 PM PDT by PittsburghAfterDark
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To: ken5050

I think Ailes should trade them to the Red Sox.


40 posted on 10/04/2012 7:54:13 PM PDT by upsdriver
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To: Thank You Rush

<Bob Beckel is tolerable as is Alan Colmes but Juan needs to go!!!!!

Juan can stay. Beckel is a liberal racist who makes me turn the channel when he is on. His comments go beyond just stating the liberal viewpoint into real racism. Sometimes the others call him on it, sometimes they don’t catch it, but whatever, the guy needs to go.


41 posted on 10/04/2012 7:56:36 PM PDT by radiohead (Buy ammo, store food, pray for the Republic.)
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To: ken5050
Would Ailes be willing to pick up some of the cost of William's contract to make the deal? When asked, he smiled, and said, "it's open. Anything and everything is always on the table in negotiations. But they'd have to give me something back in return. Maybe S.E. Cupp. She shows a lot of potential. Could be a major leaguer in the near future."

I really miss S.E. Cupp on Red Eye. I wondered what had happened to her, she used to be something of a regular. I didn't realize she had gone over to the "dark side." I'd forgive her in a second.

Mark

42 posted on 10/04/2012 8:28:11 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Bigg Red
Would that be the same Colmes who described in such disgusting terms the way the Santorums’ mourned the death of their stillborn baby boy?

Was he Santorum's personal friend? If Santorum used a miscarriage for political purposes, I can't blame Colmes for mocking the guy. I am a Santorum supporter, but there are just so many facets of the guy's personality that are simply contemptible, and I'd like to thank you for highlighting yet another one. I still think he was the least of all evils in the GOP field at the end, but Romney is personally a better man, ideology aside.

43 posted on 10/04/2012 9:15:12 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Thank You Rush

Bob Beckel is tolerable...

Bob Beckel is a bomb-throwing blowhard who is about as dumb as they come, and I have personal, inside knowledge of just how utterly uninformed this guy is.

He’s a token Libtard who’s there just to stir the pot.


44 posted on 10/04/2012 9:29:30 PM PDT by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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To: dandiegirl

“Bill O treats grown men like they are 8 year olds.”

Besides being an out-of-control egomaniac who just likes the sound of his own voice (he asks insufferably long questions, gives his guests mere seconds to respond, then interrupts them almost immediately!), O’Reilly’s show is really about little else than Bill O’Reilly and what he thinks.

He tells people what he thinks then (Talking Points) then spends the rest of the hour asking people what they thought of what he said. It’s all about Bill 24/7/365 and I can’t stand his schtick.


45 posted on 10/04/2012 9:36:03 PM PDT by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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To: Thank You Rush

I like Bob Beckel.

Pro-life. Christian. Intelligent.

Yup, he’s a complete liberal, but a good man. Colmes is too. Intellectually dishonest? Absolutely.


46 posted on 10/04/2012 9:48:06 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: hosepipe

Not a pretty as Dana Perino..”

Have been around Perino quite a bit. She is a snarky twit and just one of the reasons I only watch FOX Business now.


47 posted on 10/04/2012 10:02:28 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: ken5050

while nothing would make me happier, that is a bit harsh on the feelings of Juan Williams....who I would not miss for a second, but even some liberals have feelings


48 posted on 10/05/2012 4:46:59 AM PDT by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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To: MarkL

FYI..she’s on MSNBC at 3PM...a four way panel discussion similar to The FIve of FOX..she’s the lone conservative..MSNBC’s Bob Beckel


49 posted on 10/05/2012 4:47:38 AM PDT by ken5050 (Barack Obama: An empty suit sitting in an empty chair...)
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To: Thank You Rush

no way, Alan is horribly partisan


50 posted on 10/05/2012 4:49:55 AM PDT by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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