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Schooled: Classmate of both candidates stumped by debate outcome
The Daily ^ | October 5, 2012 | Mara Gay

Posted on 10/04/2012 6:06:57 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The man who went to school with both Barack Obama and Mitt Romney and predicted the president would "smoke" the Republican nominee says he is dumbfounded by Obama's poor showing in the first debate.

"I'm surprised. I was shocked, actually," Sidney Barthwell, a district court magistrate in Michigan who attended Cranbrook with Romney and Harvard Law School with Obama, told The Daily. "That was not the Barack Obama I’ve seen through the years. I’m thinking the man might have had the flu or something."

Barthwell, who has remained friendly with both candidates over the years and is staying neutral in the presidential race, said earlier this year that he expected Obama to dominate in the face-offs.

“When they debate, Barack will smoke Romney,” Barthwell, 64, told The Daily in May. “Mitt Romney is smart,” he said at the time. “Having said all that, I still think he’s going to get smoked. The best he can do is hopefully come out not looking like a fool. Mitt will find out the hard way as soon as they have their first debate: You don’t debate Obama.”

Barthwell, the only black graduate of Mitt Romney's 1965 class at Cranbrook Schools, the prestigious boarding school in suburban Detroit, said Romney's former classmates have been pulling for the president.

"There’s been a lot of emails going back and forth between people in my class. The vast majority of them are very supportive of Barack and not Mitt Romney," he said. "It’s surprising to me because Cranbrook was a very conservative type of place."

Thursday, Barthwell said he barely recognized the president who appeared on stage at the first presidential debate this week in Denver. The Michigan man said his former law school classmate seemed out of it. "You never see Barack looking down all the time," he said of the president's performance Wednesday night, widely panned as lackluster, at best. "He was actually stumbling over his words. That was not the real Barack Obama in my opinion."

Barthwell also said the president was unusually reserved, even in the face of full-on attacks from Romney - a possible sign, he suggested, of Obama's acute awareness of the politics of race. "It’s possible he doesn't want to appear to be the angry-black man type," Barthwell said.

And the magistrate said it's likely that Romney -- who he described back in May as "not an athlete," "not a student leader" and "not a scholar" -- was simply better prepared for the debate. "Mitt Romney is a smart guy," he said. "He must have prepared for this debate and it was obvious."


TOPICS: Education; Politics
KEYWORDS: blacks; debates; idiot; obama; romney

1 posted on 10/04/2012 6:07:07 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“When they debate, Barack will smoke Romney,”

I never thought so. I don't think the Down Low club would accept Romney as a member.

2 posted on 10/04/2012 6:13:29 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

3 posted on 10/04/2012 6:14:59 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe Algore was right it was the "Rocky Mountain High"!

4 posted on 10/04/2012 6:18:56 PM PDT by Brandonmark (2012: Our Hope IS Change!)
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To: Raycpa

Atlantis, Paradise Island Bahamas, perhaps?


5 posted on 10/04/2012 6:19:01 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A two bit magistrate “judge” thinks that Barry is “da bomb”. LOL! Figures. That’s some real news right there.


6 posted on 10/04/2012 6:21:27 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Vote early and vote often.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The man who went to school with both Barack Obama and Mitt Romney and predicted the president would "smoke" the Republican nominee as long as no one forgets to pack TOTUS.

There....fixed it!

7 posted on 10/04/2012 6:22:43 PM PDT by IrishPennant (Are you behind a "Blade of Grass?")
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To: skeeter

Me thinks the judge is remembering the Bamster through billowing clouds of smoke that didn’t come from no cigar...


8 posted on 10/04/2012 6:23:37 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“...”That was not the Barack Obama I’ve seen through the years. I’m thinking the man might have had the flu or something.”

OK. This was predicted earlier this morning. The libs have to have an excuse for why BHO2 did so poorly in the first debate.

How truly pathetic.


9 posted on 10/04/2012 6:25:32 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The flu...the altitude...the harsh bullying...Oh my gosh...poor Obama!


10 posted on 10/04/2012 6:26:02 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"and is staying neutral"

Yeah, sure, right, whatever you say.

"That was not the real Barack Obama in my opinion."

The delusion runs deep with these people.

11 posted on 10/04/2012 6:30:59 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

O Brother! This is pure BS if I ever heard it. Let’s call it what it was to all who watched, epic fail.


12 posted on 10/04/2012 6:34:33 PM PDT by marygam (#Hurry November 2012, we might not make it#)
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To: Dallas59
the altitude

Algore's theory of high altitude causing the Won to trip up is a real laugher.

Isn't Hussein the messiah who descended from on high to walk among mere mortals? He was going too lower the sea, or at least stop them from rising further????
13 posted on 10/04/2012 6:35:04 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What do you want to bet that they allow APPLAUSE in the next debate? I think lack of applause for the One REALLY FLUSTERED HIM.


14 posted on 10/04/2012 6:36:08 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Cheerio

Romney needs to whip out a big old yardstick at the next debate and say

“I checked the sea level, Baraq, it wasn’t changing in the first place”


15 posted on 10/04/2012 6:37:10 PM PDT by nascarnation (Defeat Baraq 2012. Deport Baraq 2013)
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To: Calvin Locke

“”There’s been a lot of emails going back and forth between people in my class. The vast majority of them are very supportive of Barack and not Mitt Romney,” he said. “It’s surprising to me because Cranbrook was a very conservative type of place.”

Well,,,, all of us at University School considered the Cranbrook guys as complete Pussi-—erhhh— wimps!


16 posted on 10/04/2012 6:37:16 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Barthwell, the only BLACK graduate of Mitt Romney’s 1965 class at Cranbrook Schools..”

How predictable...and I doubt he speaks for all of Romney’s classmates. Just another black koolaid drinker.


17 posted on 10/04/2012 6:40:31 PM PDT by BlessingsofLiberty (Remember Brian Terry...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"I’m thinking the man might have had the flu or something."

The flu? Well, if Obama IS sick, I'm guessing it's a different virus...like HIV.

Still, the excuses are getting pretty pathetic.

18 posted on 10/04/2012 6:40:57 PM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

For a guy with the flu or something he looked just fine today...

Amazing how healthy he looks when giving bullshit speeches to adoring zombies.


19 posted on 10/04/2012 6:41:18 PM PDT by MNlurker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is BS


20 posted on 10/04/2012 6:43:17 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Maybe Obama got news that something big is going to emerge that will kill his chances for reelection.

Right now the meme is that the Chicago thugs will be staging an October surprise. It may be the other way around.

21 posted on 10/04/2012 6:44:59 PM PDT by kabar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Most people aren’t really aware of some likely economic changes ahead. That shouldn’t have anything to do with a politician’s drama performance in a debate, but it could.


22 posted on 10/04/2012 6:56:36 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"...I’m thinking the man might have had the flu or something." -Sidney Barthwell, Obama butt-boy

hey... it was the altitude, the lack of oxygen up there, Sid-ney.

23 posted on 10/04/2012 6:57:25 PM PDT by theDentist (FUBO; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It was Romney TURN last night..
The next debate closer to the election Obama will eviscerate Romney..
Maybe Romney will lie down, or some other excuse.. BUT Obama will WIN....

The whole thing is choreographed.. maybe a tie..
BUT the last debate Obama will win handily.. i.e. two more debates..
This election is a Cartoon.. and the voters republican as well are infantile cartoon watchers.. (generally)

George Bush won (twice) because it was the republicans TURN..
Obama according to the elite will have to have two terms “to be fair”..

Even FOX News is cinematography.. its the movies..
America is so brain washed they even believe POLLS..
Which even a moron can see is propaganda.. ALL OF THEM..


24 posted on 10/04/2012 6:58:50 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sidney Barthwell, Jr., chair, EACPHS Diversity Advisory Board  

25 posted on 10/04/2012 6:59:58 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: freekitty

This is BS! Romney graduated from Harvard Law School and Harvard Business School taking both curriculum at the same time and graduated with honors from the school of Business!


26 posted on 10/04/2012 7:02:39 PM PDT by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The best he can do is hopefully come out not looking like a fool. Mitt will find out the hard way as soon as they have their first debate: You don’t debate Obama.”

I never understood how all these people think president Eye Candy is such a brilliant debater and speaker. Don't forget he lost a debate with Joe the Plumber in 2008 and he's never been without TOTUS and a fawning media since that encounter. Good Lord! The man needed TOTUS to speak in front of a middle school class! Romney did just what he had to do and what NOBODY in the media would do, he refuted the lies and hit back with actual facts. My particular favorite was when 0boober said Exxon gets $4 bln/year in tax breaks and Romney told him that he spent 25 times that amount on failed green companies like Solyndra that went bankrupt.

President Eye Candy thought it was going to be another softball interview like Letterman or the gals on the view. Instead, Romney showed up loaded with facts.

27 posted on 10/04/2012 7:16:49 PM PDT by YankeeReb (The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.” B.H. 0bama)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
"A two bit magistrate “judge” thinks that Barry is “da bomb”. LOL! Figures. That’s some real news right there."

I'm sure that the fact he's black has nothing to do with it!

28 posted on 10/04/2012 7:30:23 PM PDT by LADY J (You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have. - Author Unknown)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Mack has had an easy life. He debated like someone who’s never had to work hard for anything. Doesn’t understand working hard for a living, fighting hard for a cause. It must drive manchelle crazy.


29 posted on 10/04/2012 7:35:20 PM PDT by gotribe (WTF?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think he has “something” allright, but it ain’t the flu. He looks like he has lost about 25 lbs, among other things.


30 posted on 10/04/2012 7:56:29 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Barry should leave the crack alone before a debate.


31 posted on 10/04/2012 7:56:41 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Congrats to Ted Kennedy! He's been sober for two years now!!)
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To: greeneyes

In Chicago, they say he has “The Slims” which is just what you think it is.

Prominent Members of Chicago Black Community: Those closest to Obama know there’s no 2nd term
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/2931779/posts


32 posted on 10/04/2012 8:09:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: VeniVidiVici
Barry should leave the crack alone before a debate.

Hey, whatever gets him through the next debate, man.


33 posted on 10/04/2012 8:15:53 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There are so many of the progressives that are surprised that the Food Stamp President, without a teleprompter or not being able to orchestrate the event, is a bumbling incompetent. The MSM pimps began to believe their own BS. There were no MSM pimps there to carry water for him, he had to do it on his own and failed miserably.


34 posted on 10/04/2012 8:30:01 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (God is a victim of identity theft by anointed progressive academics and intellectuals)
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To: carcraft

Glad you researched


35 posted on 10/04/2012 10:10:04 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Mitt will find out the hard way as soon as they have their first debate: You don’t debate Obama.”

LOL! Yeah, well, John McCain wasn't that much of a challenge, so Obama looked good, in comparison.

It's clear, thought, that Obama isn't that much of a speechifier without a teleprompter. ;o)

36 posted on 10/05/2012 5:50:30 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SatinDoll

If the SOB Obama had the flu, it was over the next morning because he was out calling Romney a liar the very next morning. That was after he had snorted a line, of course. LOL


37 posted on 10/05/2012 5:57:11 PM PDT by dforest
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