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Well, that's what happens with an affirmative-action debate team...
one man's opinion.....

Posted on 10/06/2012 7:50:57 AM PDT by ken5050

The first debate is over. Obama had his hat handed to him by Mitt. James Taranto, in an excellent piece in the WSJ this week, suggests that Obama's failure was inevitable, because he's been coddled, pampered by the MSM for more than 4 years, and thus the first time he faced an articulate, prepared, challenger, Obama wasn't ready.

The problem with this argument is that it suggests that next time Obama will be much better prepared, bring his A-game.

What if that's just plain wrong? What if what we saw Wednesday night is the best that Obama has to offer?


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To: RoosterRedux
You're right. Hillary went easy on Obama because she knew that if she insulted him in any way, she would lose the black vote...and she very much needed that vote.

that would be foolish for her, as there is no way a white person - male or female would ever win any black votes over even the most stupid, effete black person.

21 posted on 10/06/2012 8:45:02 AM PDT by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: ken5050

Axlegrease said that BO would probably not prepare any more than he did for the first one. He still can’t defend his record when he’s one on one with anyone.


22 posted on 10/06/2012 8:45:34 AM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: Sacajaweau
I just read an article at HuffPo by Bob Herbert (formerly of the NYTimes) entitled "No More Excuses"...he dumps all over Obama.

The comments are amazing because so many of them are in favor of Romney.

If Romney is beginning to attract not just independents but fed up Libs...this upcoming election is going to be a rout.

23 posted on 10/06/2012 8:48:12 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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To: Bon mots
She wasn't trying to win black votes over Obama but trying not to discourage them if she could beat Obama in the primary (which she actually did...before Obama stole he nomination from her).
24 posted on 10/06/2012 8:50:38 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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To: RoosterRedux; Sacajaweau
I read the Herbert piece also, and was astonished..thwe worm is beginning to turn.

You have to remember that the libs are convinced that their political philosophy of governance is correct..that's why they won in 2008, of course. Therefore, the ONLY reason the can lose in 2012 is if Obama does a lousy job as a candidate...IOW, it's NOT the message, therefore, it's gotta be the messenger.

25 posted on 10/06/2012 8:51:18 AM PDT by ken5050 (Barack Obama: An empty suit sitting in an empty chair...)
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To: ken5050

I think Obama will do a little better because he will be pre-programmed with a few more zingers. He can deliver a speech, but I have NEVER thought him to be particularly intelligent. He just uses a good vocabulary and an attractive delivery cadence, and marries it with faked demeanor of a “cool”, smart a$$ punk to give the appearance of competence and confidence..

Obama has neither history, sound policy, nor fact on his side. His arguments for his governance, four more years and Romney’s shortcomings are ALL based on a pack of lies. My prediction: he will have more fight in him at the next debate, but he will be out-gunned by the truth, logic and sound, reasonable policy proposals.


26 posted on 10/06/2012 8:55:26 AM PDT by RatRipper (Obama, YOU LIE!!! . . .again and again and again and again, ad infinitum. . . .)
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To: ETL
Re: Post #10:
Obama is the empty chair, empty suit president.

It would be great if an empty suit (a la the Invisible Man movie) would be sitting in that chair. Photoshop anybody?

27 posted on 10/06/2012 8:57:35 AM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: ETL

Or might there be an explanation associated with that visibly long scar on the back of his head. One would think that such a feature would bring a host of questions and some kind of explanation.


28 posted on 10/06/2012 9:02:16 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: ken5050
With a caveat that almost every prediction for debate #1 was flat wrong ---in that no one expected a Romney romp---and that future predictions are likewise useless, I'll predict another surprise.

Romney will back off, and try to look firmly presidential. Less aggressive. He'll get as many touchy feely questions as they can throw at the uncaring creepy Republican.

For Obie's part, the format won't allow him to be his best, which is 100% teleprompter. He has no best in this townhall debate, which I assume is a similar debate, but with questions from the audience. He'll be able to spew his platitude to the fawning questioner, but Mitt will bring him back to reality in short order.

29 posted on 10/06/2012 9:06:40 AM PDT by chiller (First check the poll's Dem/Rep/Ind sampling numbers, then re-think.)
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To: ken5050
"Again, remember, the ONE and ONLY time he faced a capable, organized, candidate, Obama lost badly."

And to top it off Romney was rather kind and gentlemanly. He really stuck to basic facts and economic principles.

Romney barely scratched the surface.

30 posted on 10/06/2012 9:28:47 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: ken5050
Ubama will be allowed to use a TelePrompTer for the next debate.

It is racist to hold Ubama to the same set of rules as Romney.

31 posted on 10/06/2012 9:55:05 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the psychopath.)
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To: ken5050
[ What we saw was indeed Obama at his best. That's it...that's ALL he has to offer, to bring...and it's just not enough. ]

Thats simply not so.. your analysis is deeply flawed.. Obama did not mention any of the things his campaign has invented

and promoted with hundreds of millions of dollars.. even up to the day of the debate..
...ON PURPOSE...

Its is/was scripted for Romney to WIN.. (to save face)
because Obama will eviscerate him in the next two..
(You know... the two just before the election..)

Its mind boggling how slow republicans can be..
Not even embarrassed by playing PollyAnnas GLAD-Game..

**Note: No doubt about it Saul Alinsky was so far ahead of republicans they have no defense against his schemes.. and machinations..

32 posted on 10/06/2012 10:26:31 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Sirius Lee

I expect Obama will throw Hillary under the bus at the next debate. Her fault foreign policy has collapsed.


33 posted on 10/06/2012 10:37:07 AM PDT by satan (Plumbing new depths of worthlessness on a daily basis.)
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To: Sacajaweau
Right now...he's on a Big Bird roll...typical lib - more worried about a puppet than a real human being - Jim Lehrer, whom Romney also fired.....
34 posted on 10/06/2012 10:50:09 AM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: RatRipper

***he will have more fight in him at the next debate***

Or will be even more stoned, just so he can make it through.


35 posted on 10/06/2012 12:36:09 PM PDT by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed Catholic Texan)
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To: hosepipe

That is a deep, dark,cynical, and scary viewpoint...we shall see


36 posted on 10/06/2012 12:44:52 PM PDT by ken5050 (Barack Obama: An empty suit sitting in an empty chair...)
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To: ken5050

No, Obama is like a typical Communist apparatchik, a gensec, full of Marxist ideology and nothing else.

The irony of course is that by the advanced stage of the Soviet Empire the apparatchiks spouting the empty phrases no longer believed them, unlike the academic marxists of the West who remain true believers having never experienced the consequences of the radical policies they propose, or having somebody to blame for their failures, unlike again those gensecs who could no longer blame the Western Imperialists.

With Obama, James Taranto may be too polite to say it, but there is no there there.


37 posted on 10/06/2012 12:52:44 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: noinfringers2

“an explanation associated with that visibly long scar on the back of his head”

Kimberly Guilfoyle said that Hussein is a robot programmed with a certain number of phrases by his handlers. You stick a quarter in his mouth and junk like “fair share” spews forth. That scar could be where a chip has been inserted.


38 posted on 10/06/2012 1:14:59 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: ken5050

can’t argue the analysis. :)


39 posted on 10/06/2012 3:28:44 PM PDT by Christian4Bush (PSA. As of 10/06/12, 31/107 days 'til we vote out/take out the trash. (11/6/12, 1/21/13))
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To: Sacajaweau

I don’t think we’d be any better off with Hillary!. The monumental failures in the Middle East have shown what an abysmal politician she really is.

Highly, highly overrated, even compared to Obama.


40 posted on 10/06/2012 3:33:41 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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