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New TIPP Poll shows 46/44 lead for Obama but internals say he canít possibly be ahead
coachisright.com ^ | Oct. 9, 2012 | Kevin "Coach" Collins

Posted on 10/09/2012 7:00:41 AM PDT by jmaroneps37

Barack Obama leads 46/44 in new Investor’s Business Daily/Christian Science Monitor/TIPP Poll. Well that’s what they are saying anyway.

The TIPP poll shows Mitt Romney has closed up a 7 point deficit …..TIPP’s accompanying internals that supports its headline numbers.

From the earliest days of this campaign the truth of Barack Obama’s numbers has remained the same: he is not winning any group he lost and not doing better with any group he did win in 2008.

These numbers are black and white and not subject to interpretation.

The sampling errors that seem to be build-in to all of today’s polls are of course present here. TIPP used 36% Democrats, 31% Republicans and 30 Independents If we use the Rasmussen report on actual Party registrations the numbers would be 36.8% Republican, 34.2% Democrat. The Independents are 30% and they used 30%.

These numbers add up to a sampling skew of 6.7%, but that doesn’t even factor in the 16 enthusiasm edge for Republicans reported by Gallup.

Taking each category of voter and comparing what TIPP is reporting today with what Obama got in 2008, we see that Obama is NOT doing better with any voting bloc – not even those he carried.

Among the largest blocs Obama won, here are the “then and now” numbers.

Women (53% of voters); Obama won 56/43 – a 13 point margin. Today he is down to 51/40.

Men (47% of voters) were won by Obama 49/48 and today he is losing 48/40.

Obama won African Americans 95/4; today he is at 88%.

Obama won Jews with 78%; today he is down to 59%. Among young voters 18 – 44 Obama is winning 49/39; in 2008 he took 57% of their votes.

In 2008 Obama won Catholics 54/45 now he’s at 46/44%.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; tipppoll
The meltdown is in full swing.
1 posted on 10/09/2012 7:00:48 AM PDT by jmaroneps37
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To: jmaroneps37

I would rather be the challenger at 44 than the incumbent at 46.


2 posted on 10/09/2012 7:06:45 AM PDT by rushmom
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To: jmaroneps37

What is wrong with catholics? That’s if this survey is correct.


3 posted on 10/09/2012 7:16:31 AM PDT by saturn
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To: jmaroneps37
This poll is dated September 10, 2012.

I mean, really?

4 posted on 10/09/2012 7:20:46 AM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: jmaroneps37

The poll linked is from September 10!


5 posted on 10/09/2012 7:22:39 AM PDT by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: saturn

“What is wrong with catholics..?”

The liberal/union/blue collar social justice wing of the catholic church votes democrat no matter what. They are CINO’s because a true catholic does not support gov’t funded abortion. It is very sad, and many if not most of the bishops are pro democrat as well. I am happy to see the number of “catholic” Obama supporters has decreased although no catholic can be excused for voting for Obama and the democrat abortion platform, not to mention the HHS mandate; for a catholic, to pull the lever for a democrat is material cooperation in evil.


6 posted on 10/09/2012 7:28:27 AM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: saturn

“What is wrong with catholics..?”

The liberal/union/blue collar social justice wing of the catholic church votes democrat no matter what. They are CINO’s because a true catholic does not support gov’t funded abortion. It is very sad, and many if not most of the bishops are pro democrat as well. I am happy to see the number of “catholic” Obama supporters has decreased although no catholic can be excused for voting for Obama and the democrat abortion platform, not to mention the HHS mandate; for a catholic, to pull the lever for a democrat is material cooperation in evil.


7 posted on 10/09/2012 7:28:34 AM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: saturn

My inlaws are Catholics but havent been to mass in over 30 years. The title Catholic for polls really means little. They vote for rats everytime. Are they Catholic? please


8 posted on 10/09/2012 7:28:58 AM PDT by italianquaker (The 47 pct need to pay their fair share)
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To: stonehouse01

sorry! hit post twice by accident


9 posted on 10/09/2012 7:29:18 AM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: jmaroneps37
In 2008 Obama won Catholics 54/45 now he’s at 46/44%.

For the life of me, I can't believe Catholics still want this guy to be President. Just plain dumb!

10 posted on 10/09/2012 7:35:56 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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According to investors.com IBD/TIPP begins daily tracking polls today. This will be interesting, as IMHO they and Ras are the most accurate.


11 posted on 10/09/2012 7:36:37 AM PDT by Marathoner (If the bastard were to win reelection, let America burn. IDGAF anymore.)
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To: OrioleFan
For the life of me, I can't believe Catholics still want this guy to be President. Just plain dumb!

these are Catholics a la the Kennedys type of Catholics... i come from a family of this type... believe in God... even go to mass... but very liberal politically... anti death penalty, pro union, pro government programs to help those less fortunate... in their eyes, the Dems are always for the regular guy... Repubs are for the rich...

12 posted on 10/09/2012 7:43:09 AM PDT by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: saturn

A much, much, much more recent poll (Battleground) shows Catholics going from Romney only 50-47, BUT ACTIVE CATHOLICS going for Romney 63-35.

Protestants support Romney by a much larger 55-42, but ACTIVE PROTESTANTS by a very similar 59-37.

That’s right: ACTIVE CATHOLICS vote MORE Republican than ACTIVE PROTESTANTS.

What’s up?

Most Catholics live in regions dominated by ultra-left-wing media, politics, and government, such as Mass., NY., NJ., Maryland, R.I., Connecticut, Calif., etc. Even in the midwest, they live in large, ultra-liberal cities. The only place they’ll ever hear a reason not to vote for the most insane, left-wing lunatic is in their church. So when a non-religious Catholic (i.e., a non-Christian of Irish, Hispanic, Mediterranean or Central European extraction) votes, he votes the way of those who surround him: Democrat. When a non-religious Protestant votes, he votes the way of those who surround him which is more likely Republican.


13 posted on 10/09/2012 8:25:46 AM PDT by dangus
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To: jmaroneps37

“Hey... don’t make me look bad!”


14 posted on 10/09/2012 8:31:36 AM PDT by Mashood
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