Posted on 10/11/2012 7:46:40 PM PDT by publius321
Biden has to be the biggest idiot to ever set foot on a presidential debate stage.
Chris Wallace is SLAMMING Biden right now for his condescending crap. Perhaps we jumped too soon to say Ryan lost. Biden may have just overdone it.
Elmer Gantry had clean white teeth and smiled a lot too. But spoke no truth......
...if Wallace is slamming biden...biden scooged the pooch
...if Wallace is slamming biden...biden scooged the pooch
Ryan won despite being tag-teamed by Biden and Martha Ratass.
“Biden’s non-stop, fake laughter was bizarre and painful to watch.”
His laughter was at inappropriate times - mental illness...does he drink?
The weirdness of his smile put me in mind of The Joker.
Every debate has a moderator who likes Democrats and hates Republicans. Maybe someday the GOP will insist on having a moderator who does not hate them.
Summary (also having listened to spin from the left, right, and middle)
Here’s what I think America will take from it:
Biden was hugely rude, obnoxious, childlike ... and ultimately said very little.
Ryan was arguably too quiet, but had facts, figures, a plan.
More importantly - Ryan quietly removed the ability for the Obama campaign to continue calling them liars. In all the sound and fury, Ryan never got dinged, he never got intellectually beat, he answered every question.
The story will be Biden, and it won’t be flattering - mostly will be played out on SNL. Slight win (in independents’ eyes) to Ryan because he held his own perfectly well.
Won’t move the polls, but has established Ryan as a solid national figure, re-enforced that RR is solid. That’s a win for RR. For the Dems - well, the base got to cheer for an idiot. Not much else.
Ryan looked very young, earnest, serious and determined.
The moderator was not bad and, in fact, put Biden on the spot several times. Her interruptions of Ryan were mostly after he had been speaking for a reasonable time.
Biden only had one moment of incoherent babbling which lasted for 10-15 seconds. But he didn’t step into it too badly given his realization that the media will cover the lie about the request for security from Libya.
I can say that Ryan did not lose at a minimum.
Might could fix that with a moderator's teleprompter. On theother hand Biden came across like he needed more brain surgery, possibly this very evening.
Haven't seen worse behavior out of a Democrat candidate since the Algore paraded around the stage in the 2000 debate mumbling to himself and making animal noises and squeals.
Thought they were over that part of their lives but I guess I was wrong.
This evening, vice presidential candidate Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) took on Vice President Joe Biden in a wide-ranging debate covering everything from Libya and Iran to the economy. Biden’s demeanor was the story of the evening: smirking, laughing, snorting, shaking his head. The strategy seems to have been to laugh off America’s problems, since the Obama administration has done nothing to solve them.
The debate itself was secondary to the demeanor of Biden. Biden had nothing to run on, so he decided to distract. And those pearly whites were a bizarre distraction from what could have been a substantive debate.
Biden interrupted Ryan repeatedly. He would not allow Ryan to finish an answer; where he stopped interrupting for even a few moments.
This was the big problem for Biden going in: the American people didn’t like him. His favorables were far lower than Ryan’s. This debate did him no favors. And if the vice presidential debate was any indicator of the new, aggressive strategy of the Obama/Biden ticket, it will be off-putting to Americans in a dramatic way. It appears blustery and unlikeable – and most of all, dramatically angry and unserious.
Biden did it because Obama was somnambulant during the first debate. So Biden came out swinging. And more than anything else, he came out like an enormous bully, determined not to let Ryan get in a word edgewise.
Local news covered people at a South of Market bar.
They thought old Joe kicked butt.
No one can explain the mission in Afghanistan.
The actions (or lack thereof) in Libya, Egypt, Iran and Syria are not compelling on either side.
Biden was just so condescending, arrogant and rude, I couldn’t believe it. Childish behavior unworthy of the position he currently holds.
Ryan was the only adult on the stage.
Ryan was a gentleman....I hope Romney brings a velvet steel glove
There is a pretty simple “explanation” for Afghanistan. It is an example of the necessary, if unpleasant, projection of American power in order to kill our enemies. Now the efficacy of that project can be questioned no doubt but not the intent.
My own view is that we need bases in Iraq and Afghanistan far into the future.
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