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What's the Point of Donating If We Can't Access This Site at Peak Times?
October 12, 2012 | Self

Posted on 10/11/2012 9:54:00 PM PDT by PittsburghAfterDark

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To: Jim Robinson; All

I had trouble getting in last night, too, just like the last general election night.

I hate to talk about feelings when facing an issue, BUT,
FreeRepublic is feels like a child to me - I love it dearly even though it screws up occasionally.

My name is on the list of monthly donors and suspect it will remain so until you have to post me on the Memorial Wall.

Hugs, Jim, ya’ll will figure it out!


51 posted on 10/12/2012 6:13:50 AM PDT by FrogMom (Chicken Little is coming, and he's right!)
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To: Jim Robinson

I would suspect it’s not a horsepower issue, it’s a caching issue. Websites with a lot of users have to cache database hits, they can’t do a live query every time.


52 posted on 10/12/2012 6:23:21 AM PDT by mlo
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To: Jim Robinson
Sorry, I’m fresh out of ideas. I’m sure John will get it solved, but I don’t know when.

We have a ton of IT professionals on this site. My problem is that I do not know the configuration or the setup of what FR is running. We can't troubleshoot without information.

Can we get information on number/type of servers, type of internet connection, NICS per server, traffic each NIC is seeing, Apache/database/OS versions? Firewall setup?

53 posted on 10/12/2012 6:33:09 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Jim Robinson
I used to be a $1+/day contributor, at first anonymously and later posted, even during the increased levy that was supposed to get the hamsters up to speed. Just as FR slowed to a crawl right before the present FReepathon, it did so before the previous one. THAT was the one where I decided to stop donating. Now I'll grant you that I get very few 404 pages anymore, but the incessant slowness I find off-putting. I haven't been here as long as many, but in the early days I only had WebTV and FR was a nightmare to navigate back then. When I tried again in 04, your format (or whatever) had changed and my joining was possible. Dial-up was slow, images made the wait seem interminable, but I accepted that. I knew my equipment was chisel and rock. In 06 I finally got a computer and except for the porn attacks that used to show up, I was pleased. The last couple of years though, ESPECIALLY the weeks before the FReepathons, FR is in the mud.

Get FR up to snuff, and I will be MORE than happy to resume my contributions......otherwise it feels like I'm just throwing money at a problem that never seems to end and I am averse to doing that.

PS, I stay logged on to FR 24/7. I know MANY FReepers do this also. If this is part of the problem, PLEASE make an announcement to that effect.

54 posted on 10/12/2012 6:59:56 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
They weren't tossed, they left.

Not true.

55 posted on 10/12/2012 9:08:08 AM PDT by epic stache
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
Many of us were doing all we could do to get a real conservative nominated, others insisted on undermining the effort, and they got called out on it, got their feelings hurt and left.

The most vicious purgings took place after Romney had effectively wrapped up the nomination.

56 posted on 10/12/2012 9:13:24 AM PDT by epic stache
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To: epic stache

It is too true. I saw idiots swearing at Jim, and they didn’t get “tossed”. They Opused out. Some even told him to cancel their accounts, and he didn’t.


57 posted on 10/12/2012 12:59:10 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Liberalism. Ideas so great they have to be mandatory.-FReeper Osage Orange)
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To: BereanBrain
Being an IT professional, I would suggest that he run it in the cloud, that way it scales, is reliable, and it can add servers dynamically....I do this all the time for customers who have much bigger problems.....

And the cloud has your data, and it's easier to put pressure on a cloud company to shut you down.

58 posted on 10/12/2012 1:03:45 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: mlo

bingo.....the cache, search and routing is the problem

had it looked at 3 months ago by the best of the best IT folk.....

told the powers that be and was told no thx to any help

FOR FREE


59 posted on 10/12/2012 1:07:08 PM PDT by advertising guy (" that lie has it's own sleep number " David Feherty PGA Championship 2012)
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To: advertising guy; John Robinson

If you have some concrete advice to offer, please be my guest. But freepmail it to John Robinson not me. Does no good to offer it to me. It’s all over my head. Thanks


60 posted on 10/12/2012 1:15:02 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Ingtar; John Robinson

Your post was interesting in that it reminded me of something that's constantly showing up above my status bar (firefox 15) as FR is trying to load or reload a page.

Connected to www.google-analytics.com

Though when that specific addy is manually entered into Firefox, it redirects to http://www.google.com/analytics/

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(preface the following with the fact I'm in central PA, and these anecdotal observations are irrespective of whether or not a HOSTS file is active)

I tried disconnecting that (google analytics) IP with my little CurrPorts app as close to instantaneously as possible, but it didn't seem to make any difference on my end.

Perhaps by the time it shows up in CurrPorts' list, the interference is already in progress ?

Or perhaps if all, or a (geographically ?) significant portion of FR's incoming traffic is being routed thru that Google addy before content can be served, it could be hosing things up ?

I parenthetically mention geographically because, in times past, when FR was glacial, I did some tracerts and found a huge (and consistent) latency bump at the .. wait for it .. CHICAGO hop !

Perhaps mine isn't an isolated incident .. I'm real curious if the slowness symptom might be limited to those of us east of the Mississippi ?

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Obviously, I'm no kinda network guy .. my brief stint as a professional geek was as a (novice) SysAdmin back in the mists of the Y2K era.

And maybe I just wasted a half hour typing up a buncha stuff that has absolutely no bearing on anything at all . . LOL !

But something is vey f*d up here on 'big' nights, and I fear that our beloved FR will be, for all intents and purposes, unserviceable come 6 Nov.

61 posted on 10/12/2012 1:20:26 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: tomkat

Perhaps mine isn’t an isolated incident .. I’m real curious if the slowness symptom might be limited to those of us east of the Mississippi ?


I’m west of the Mississippi River by one state and it’s useless to attempt to get on FR when a big event is happening. I have no idea of the causation but it does occur to the West also.


62 posted on 10/12/2012 1:31:18 PM PDT by deport
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To: deport
Could be that, not being THAT far west, you're still being routed thru Chicongo (assuming that my observed latency drag there is an actual problem) ?

My memory benchmark for FR performance hearkens back to 9.11 when this site handled massive traffic for days with nothing like the current speed issues.

But my memory's not what it used to be, so maybe it was more problematic back than recall recalls . . .

63 posted on 10/12/2012 1:44:23 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: tomkat

For information purposes.......

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2943561/posts?page=1169#1169


64 posted on 10/12/2012 1:54:27 PM PDT by deport
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To: Jim Robinson

just did......now the ball is in your court


65 posted on 10/12/2012 2:09:51 PM PDT by advertising guy (" that lie has it's own sleep number " David Feherty PGA Championship 2012)
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To: deport; CedarDave; Jim Robinson; John Robinson
Yeah, thanks for that .. CedarDave pointed me to it late last night .. I'd already turned this box off and gone to bed .. found/read it this morning.

It's my impression that some of the finest techie minds in the world can be found on the membership rolls of FR.

I really wish John could/would avail himself of some of them, even given the pitfalls inherent with 'committees'.

There IS a workable solution out there somewhere !

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Speaking of membership rolls, and assuming a current membership of, say, 100,000:

$1/month for posting privileges, plus whatever the CC companies charge for a transaction fee .. so say total user cost of $2 per month, yields $1,200,000 per year for FR to become THE fastest site on earth.

And even if only half the membership agreed to that pittance, $600,000/yr is still about double the site's current income, and should keep us cutting edge and vey zippy.

Lurking would, as always, remain free of charge (other than the guilt cost incurred via freeloading   ;-)

66 posted on 10/12/2012 2:18:10 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: advertising guy

Thanks. Maybe yours will shine through out of all the suggestions he gets.


67 posted on 10/12/2012 2:18:39 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: tomkat
www.google-analytics.com

Open your "hosts" file and add a redirect to your local port 127.0.0.1 and that stops any transfer between you and Google's Analytics collector. If you want nothing to do with Google, add "google.com" as well. ;^)

68 posted on 10/12/2012 2:26:50 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: Jim Robinson

it will like I shared before with you

just call the number


69 posted on 10/12/2012 2:27:33 PM PDT by advertising guy (" that lie has it's own sleep number " David Feherty PGA Championship 2012)
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To: goat granny
Do what quite a few female freepers do....clean house, use the washing machine, take the clothes out of the dryer and fold. If its a real long time, scrub the kitchen floor.....:

And take away all my wife's fun?

70 posted on 10/12/2012 2:35:36 PM PDT by tnlibertarian (Hope isn't a strategy.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom
I've been on here since 2000 and only very rarely have I had access trouble.

Ditto. Not more than half a dozen times in twelve years seems pretty good to me.

71 posted on 10/12/2012 2:46:53 PM PDT by KevinB (We'll stop treating Obama like a dog when he stops treating us like a fire hydrant - Fred Grandy)
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To: ottbmare; Jim Robinson; John Robinson
Are we sure that this is all the fault of FR?

I too am a dummy with most of this stuff, but I do know that whatever the hardware/software FR is running on bears a big portion of the blame.

I'm just up from you outside Philly, on Verizon's DSL, and have no problem or unexplainable slowdowns on other sites. I can see when my line throttles at 3MB download - FR never reaches that level, some of YouTube's frequently do. At link selection it usually takes from 5 - 15 seconds before the window starts to paint the data, and that is if it's held in the cache. If the server has to search out a link from months ago that's gone quiet, it can run 45 - 75 seconds to see a return. That's to be expected, as it's not cached.

Slow as it is, FR is still the best place to grab info on just about anything you desire. Keep it up, Jim and John. And thanks!

72 posted on 10/12/2012 2:51:43 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: brityank
Thanks for that brityank .. already had 'em in there.

Both 'google-analytics.com' and 'www.google-analytics.com'

That's why it's struck me as strange that either of those addies should be flashing (very quickly) in Firefox's site loading info above the status bar.

Presumably the HOSTS file is blocking connections to all the other sites on that list too, but none of them show up in that info area the way g-a does, at least not that I recall noticing.

Almost as tho it's nothing to do with my machine or my connection request to FR, but somehow part of John's coding that routes traffic out of FR's pipe provider ?

Regardless, it's giving me a headache .. I'm a furnituremaker, not a network guru .. LOL

73 posted on 10/12/2012 3:02:07 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: tomkat
... struck me as strange those addies should be flashing (very quickly) in Firefox's site loading info ...

I don't see that, but it may be the way I have my FF set.

Got AdBlock Plus, NoScript, BetterPrivacy, and Ghostery all active. With those even on sites like Drudge I see very little ads or junk. I know it slows me down slightly, but not to the extent I see on FR.

74 posted on 10/12/2012 3:27:29 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: brityank
I run ABP and Flashblock, along with Malwarebytes and MSE.

Except for the local rag's site, this is about the only news site I frequent .. FR's only lag time competitor I've experienced is Imgur on occasion, which sometimes 'runs around with our hair on fire'.

Speaking of headaches, NoScript often induced them, so it's turned off .. lol

75 posted on 10/12/2012 3:36:51 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: tnlibertarian

LOL does your wife read free republic....


76 posted on 10/12/2012 3:58:27 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

It happens during every fundraising. I am used to it.


77 posted on 10/12/2012 4:18:55 PM PDT by Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage (Have you hugged your garbage man today?)
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To: tomkat

I’m a monthly donor, have been for a very long time, so I hope I’m not too over the line in offering an observation.

There is only one person on the face of the planet who has access to and expertise in FR’s “guts,” most of which I understand is proprietary and custom. Unless a substantial increase in the salary and/or benefits of that one and only person would somehow provide the impetus, time, and expertise required to fix this, more money won’t solve it.


78 posted on 10/13/2012 1:55:35 PM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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