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Romney Now Beating Obama among Jewish Voters [Affiliation 39%D-30R!]
frontpagemag.com/the-point ^ | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 10/12/2012 4:40:32 AM PDT by expat1000

That sizable percent of undecided Jewish voters who broke away from Obama appear to have made a decision.

Romney now leads Obama 44-40 among likely Jewish voters. This is a post-poll debate, so Obama’s loss there was likely a factor, but the large number of undecideds predating the debate suggest that it wasn’t so much Obama’s weak performance as it was Romney’s strong performance.

A few notes. This is a small sample size. Numbers like this may vanish just as quickly as they came, but other polls do suggest that there has been a shift. I wouldn’t bet on Romney winning the Jewish vote straight out, but he’ll probably win more of it than anyone would have expected two months ago. So I wouldn’t get too excited just yet.

Polls of likely voters often tilt Republican because the Democratic base tends to be semi-literate and can barely drag itself to the polling station without free beer and forty interpreters. This is not the case with the Jewish vote where the core of the lefty crowd is prosperous and educated. So if this is an accurate reading of the likely Jewish voter, then that’s big news.

And the defection of the Jewish vote means that Obama has lost every major religion in the country. The Protestant vote is heavily going against him and he’s hanging on to the Catholic vote by a few percent, meaningless within the margin of error. The only religion he’s decisively winning amongst is “No Religion”. I would also assume he’s romping home with the Muslim vote, but unlike Europe, that’s not too much of a factor here yet.



TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; jewishvote; romney2012

1 posted on 10/12/2012 4:40:36 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: justiceseeker93; Vendome; arasina

Jewish vote ping


2 posted on 10/12/2012 4:41:40 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: expat1000; sf4dubya

I can certainly believe this of the Orthodox Jewish community. I will never understand their past support for Hillary Clinton, though.


3 posted on 10/12/2012 4:54:49 AM PDT by arasina (Communism is EVIL. So there.)
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To: expat1000

Good to see Romney crack that nut.


4 posted on 10/12/2012 4:58:23 AM PDT by Michigander222
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To: expat1000
And the defection of the Jewish vote means that Obama has lost every major religion in the country. The Protestant vote is heavily going against him and he’s hanging on to the Catholic vote by a few percent, meaningless within the margin of error. The only religion he’s decisively winning amongst is “No Religion”. I would also assume he’s romping home with the Muslim vote, but unlike Europe, that’s not too much of a factor here yet.

Hah! I posted a moment ago without having read beyond the headline. (tsk tsk) Only when I went back to read it did I realize it was written in the inimitable style of Daniel Greenfield. He's one person I would love to meet someday. What a mind!

5 posted on 10/12/2012 5:02:27 AM PDT by arasina (Communism is EVIL. So there.)
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To: expat1000

Its about time that my co-religionists woke up and realized that there are huge differences between these 2 people - differences that correlate perfectly to the different approaches of the parties on issues of import to Jewish voters.


6 posted on 10/12/2012 5:03:56 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (Why do libs think that a half-white multi-millionairre really cares about them?)
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To: arasina

In that case, the Klintonistas got to one highly influential rabbi and basically bribed him with the idea of state supprt for his supporters’ schools. Shame on him for giving in to the temptation.


7 posted on 10/12/2012 5:06:57 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (Why do libs think that a half-white multi-millionairre really cares about them?)
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To: arasina
Only when I went back to read it did I realize it was written in the inimitable style of Daniel Greenfield

Daniel is such a treasure trove of information. Check out "The Point" (I think I called it The Front in error on this link) at frontpage.com, which is where this came from. I don't post everything from there - don't want to hog too much space, but it's all worth a look.

8 posted on 10/12/2012 5:09:28 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: Ancesthntr

We live in hope, but somehow I fear this poll is incorrect.


9 posted on 10/12/2012 5:19:10 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: babble-on

I live in a Philly suburban township that is 25 percent Jewish. In 2008 I saw Obama signs everywhere, including some in Hebrew. I see almost no Obama signs this year - including some yards where there are signs for other Dem candidates such as Casey but not Obama.


10 posted on 10/12/2012 5:25:49 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: expat1000

I live in a red half suburban, half semi-rural area of FL. The only bank of Obama signs I’ve seen so far is the line in front of the gay bar on one of our main roads. It sticks out like a sore thumb. So Obama has the depravity vote.

I’m sure there are some in front of Dem HQ but I haven’t driven past there recently.


11 posted on 10/12/2012 5:26:25 AM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: expat1000

What do ya suppose woke ‘en up?


12 posted on 10/12/2012 5:46:51 AM PDT by chesley (Vast deserts of political ignorance makes liberalism possible - James Lewis)
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To: All

Yeah, well....Rush mentioned yesterday he would not rule out a bombing with Israel on Iran, before the election....a desperate gimmick for votes...


13 posted on 10/12/2012 5:59:35 AM PDT by Fawn (DEAR JESUS....PLEASE LET OBAMA LOSE.....AMEN.)
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To: arasina
I can certainly believe this of the Orthodox Jewish community. I will never understand their past support for Hillary Clinton, though.

This article explains it.

14 posted on 10/12/2012 6:14:38 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (When the Obama poster fades, the portrait of Che Guevara beneath it shows through.)
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To: expat1000

With past voting tendencies, Republican Jews are over-sampled. :) If true, however, it is doom for Dims’ chances.


15 posted on 10/12/2012 6:16:38 AM PDT by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: Fawn

At first I thought the administration wouldn’t do anything without Muslim blessings but if Muslims kill each other without any qualms the idea is actually possible. Anything to keep the Muslim Brotherhood within the U.S. government.

“Muslim Brotherhood Infiltrates US Government”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HshoZv_ngi4


16 posted on 10/12/2012 6:24:50 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

Fascinating stuff. This is all totally new to me. Thanks for posting.


17 posted on 10/12/2012 6:47:55 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: expat1000

I believe you can sense a seismic shift in the long-term preference of Jews for the democratic party.

The social issues they heavily prefer (abortion for example) still prevent them from a full swing to the GOP, but when a influential and generous part of the Democratic base moves away or to neutral, then the Dems have to be scared and be prepared to throw Obama overboard.

Dems cannot afford to have heavy political donors, influential citizens in many areas of our culture, and sure-to-vote folks decide to change or turn neutral.


18 posted on 10/12/2012 7:17:05 AM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk oMnly to me.)
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To: expat1000

This is pleasantly surprising, if true.

A million votes here, a million votes there... it looks like it’s starting to pile up in R/R’s favor.


19 posted on 10/12/2012 7:17:18 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: expat1000
Sorry, but this is a nonsensical poll with a MOE of probably >15% due to the small sample size. I don't think we should believe this kind of extreme nonsense.

I am certain 0 will get less Jewish support this time than he did in 2008, but would be shocked if he got fewer than 70% of the Jewish vote in 2012. In 2008, he won 78%.

20 posted on 10/12/2012 7:22:29 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: expat1000

In the 2011 Canadian election the Conservative Party wooed and finally won over the small (smaller than the US) but influential Jewish vote. It resulted in the first majority Conservative government since the 1988 election. Consider that a foreshadowing perhaps of this years election if this news is accurate. Another foreshadowing might be the Republican victory of the house seat that Anthony Weiner vacated. It was dismissed by the usual suspects in the MSM at the time except for the comment by Bill Maher that the pubs had stolen the dims Jewish vote.


21 posted on 10/12/2012 7:35:17 AM PDT by xp38
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To: nwrep
Sorry, but this is a nonsensical poll with a MOE of probably >15% due to the small sample size. I don't think we should believe this kind of extreme nonsense.

From the article, in case you missed it.

A few notes. This is a small sample size. Numbers like this may vanish just as quickly as they came, but other polls do suggest that there has been a shift. I wouldn’t bet on Romney winning the Jewish vote straight out, but he’ll probably win more of it than anyone would have expected two months ago. So I wouldn’t get too excited just yet.

"Extreme nonsense?" Really?

22 posted on 10/12/2012 7:42:02 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: expat1000
"Extreme nonsense?" Really?

Yes, it is like someone claiming that 0 will win the white NRA vote. It just won't happen.

However, 0 will lose a significant fraction of his 2008 share of the Jewish vote, and will lose Florida....

23 posted on 10/12/2012 8:00:17 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
Thank you. I remember that. I was thinking more of the 2008 election campaign, when a prominent Frum businessman hosted a fundraiser for Hillary Clinton. Many in the community gave him a lot of grief for doing so. I think then-Governor Corzine attended that event.

It saddens me to say that I believe some support will still go to Obama if he promises a different pardon this time: Jonathan Pollard.

24 posted on 10/12/2012 8:02:06 AM PDT by arasina (Communism is EVIL. So there.)
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To: expat1000; Impala64ssa; Bluestocking; CaptainAmiigaf; Netz; eddiespaghetti; jjotto; redpoll; ...
Much too small a sample of Jews for these numbers to mean anything. If there are only 812 voters sampled and Jews are, for the sake of argument, something like 3-4% of the national electorate, that makes the total number of Jews sampled around 30, much too low to make any statistically valid generalized assessment of the national Jewish vote.

The intuitive guess here is that the national Jewish vote will be approximately 60% for Obama, 40% for Romney.

This shift of Jewish voters toward the GOP - in comparison to 2004 - will help put Florida back in the Republican column. Not surprising that Romney now has a seven-point lead in that crucial state according to a (left-leaning) newspaper-sponsored poll released yesterday.

25 posted on 10/12/2012 11:36:55 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93
The intuitive guess here is that the national Jewish vote will be approximately 60% for Obama, 40% for Romney.

That's probably closer to reality, although it might even be 55/45. I can only speak for own Jewish family members, every single one of whom, to my knowledge, is going to vote for Romney. I am rather sure that some of them have never before voted for a Republican.

But even a 60/40 result would represent a significant shift away from Obama and it will likely be accompanied by similar moves among Catholics and metropolitan area suburban voters.

In any event, it is very good news for Romney and bad news for Obama.

26 posted on 10/12/2012 12:12:46 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Cogito, ergo armatum sum.)
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To: arasina; All
I can certainly believe this of the Orthodox Jewish community. I will never understand their past support for Hillary Clinton, though.

The Orthodox Jewish community will vote for Romney much more decisively than this 44-40, but they are only perhaps 10-15 percent of the American Jewish electorate.

As for the alleged Orthodox Jewish past support for Hillary Clinton, I think you are referring to an isolated incident where one Hasidic community in Rockland County, NY voted almost unanimously for "Her Royal Thighness" when she ran for US Senate. You have to realize that these insular Hasidic communities are small segments of the Orthodox Jewish community, and have a pattern and historic custom of acting in unison according to the wishes of their community rabbi who, amongst his other functions, mediates various interactions of his community with the outside world. In the Hillary Clinton case, IIRC, the near unanimous vote of the particular Hasidic community for her was a payback for a pardon she had assisted in obtaining for one of the community's members.

27 posted on 10/12/2012 12:14:59 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: dirtboy
I see almost no Obama signs this year - including some yards where there are signs for other Dem candidates such as Casey but not Obama.

Any Romney signs?

28 posted on 10/12/2012 1:42:12 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: babble-on
We live in hope, but somehow I fear this poll is incorrect.

Please see my post # 25.

29 posted on 10/12/2012 1:43:26 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: wildbill
Dems cannot afford to have heavy political donors, influential citizens in many areas of our culture, and sure-to-vote folks decide to change or turn neutral.

Most especially in Florida, and perhaps in other battleground states like Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Nevada.

30 posted on 10/12/2012 1:49:27 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks justiceseeker93. Another reason for Lew Rockwell fans to oppose Romney.


31 posted on 10/12/2012 7:32:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: arasina

Thanks for ping.

There is absolutely no reason why anyone with even the smallest spiritual relationship for Israel would vote for Obama.

The RJC is doing its job. Now conservatives have to teach our new friends what conservatism is, because it doesn’t look like we’re going to get the Senate.

I am so taking a vacation after this election.


32 posted on 10/13/2012 2:28:08 AM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative. REJECT THEN STOP SOCIALISM THIS NOV!)
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To: justiceseeker93

I think I’ve seen one Romney sign, saw more McCain signs in 2008.


33 posted on 10/13/2012 7:04:12 AM PDT by dirtboy
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