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Just Who is that Intelligence Community Team Obama Keeps Mentioning
The Virginian ^ | 10/12/2012 | Moneyrunner

Posted on 10/13/2012 6:28:26 AM PDT by moneyrunner

Who or what is this “intelligence community” that the Obama is administration is quoting when they tell us that this shadowy “intelligence community” told them that the attack in Libya was the result of a demonstration about a video.

Let’s be clear, the only people who have told the American people that the our ambassador and three others were killed in Benghazi as the result of a demonstration that got a little rowdy are people who claim that they’re only telling us what they were told.

Isn’t it convenient that the members of the intelligence community that gave such a spectacularly incorrect assessment of what went on in Benghazi are not identified? I would really like to know who these people are and how they managed to mislead the entire Obama administration for a full month. It is particularly telling that they stuck to their story despite the fact that people in the State Department were actually listening in on the attack. That other member of the State Department knew that it was a terrorist attack within 24 hours. That members or congress and the press knew that it was a terrorist attack even as Ambassador Rice went out to five Sunday morning news shows to lie. That even today Joe Biden tries to keep the lie alive that “we” didn’t know what the truth was. I guess it all depends on the meaning of the word “we.”

I hope someone in the press corpse asks the question: just who were these member of the “intelligence community” that were able to mislead the smartest President the world has ever known. We want names. We want to know if these same people also provide “intelligence” on exactly when Iran will have a nuclear weapon. It will give us an idea of just how worried we should be.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Politics
KEYWORDS: benghazi; biden; libya; obama
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1 posted on 10/13/2012 6:28:33 AM PDT by moneyrunner
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2 posted on 10/13/2012 6:29:04 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

We already know the answer. Petraeus told the House after the attack that it was due to out of control protests over a video.


3 posted on 10/13/2012 6:37:49 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: moneyrunner

The Executive Branch under this pResident apparently has no organization chart for those involved with national security.

Especially regarding a precise list of who advises and informs the pResident.


4 posted on 10/13/2012 6:39:17 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: moneyrunner
Since we know the zer0 crowd lied from the beginning, one has to believe they are lying in the present. Am doubtful it would amount to the truth. To answer your question ... one (or rather I here) has to believe it is a ruse, or false flag. Someone, in the intelligence community would be out there, if this was true. Nobody is out there except biden and rice. I do not believe biden or rice.
5 posted on 10/13/2012 6:40:34 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: RummyChick

My suspect is that guy Crapper, or whatever — the one who said the Muslim Brother hood was just a nice bunch of philanthropists.


6 posted on 10/13/2012 6:41:47 AM PDT by expat2
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To: RummyChick
Former General Petraeus has a lot of 'splaining to do, if he wants to retain a shred of his former reputation.

We now know they were watching the consulate attack in real time. No mob, no protest, just a military attack. And Petraeus knew it in real time.

He threw away his integrity so easily. He's almost in Dempsey's Quisling class now.

7 posted on 10/13/2012 6:41:57 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: moneyrunner
Interesting thread from yesterday, especially the last paragraph at AmericanThinker.com:


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It could be popcorn-worthy: The Chicago Thuggery vs The Washington Bureaucracies.
8 posted on 10/13/2012 6:42:51 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: moneyrunner

Maybe it’s the same intelligence team that is advising obama and biden on the status of Iran’s nuclear program, Syrian WMD, Chinese nuclear, cyberwar and space weapon development,and Russian compliance with its strategic arms treaties

Not to worry, they got a handle on things


9 posted on 10/13/2012 6:43:06 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: moneyrunner
Translated.....Administration is citing the proverbial "They".

This thing is unraveling quicker than a 39 cent rope.

10 posted on 10/13/2012 6:43:55 AM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: moneyrunner
We want to know if these same people also provide “intelligence” on exactly when Iran will have a nuclear weapon.

Damn straight we do!!!

11 posted on 10/13/2012 6:44:55 AM PDT by varon (I remember when America was American.)
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To: Travis McGee
The democRATS have always planned ahead. General Petraeus was once called, the name, by democRATS General Betrayus. Am thinking as has been stated, at this site, that General Petraeus was addressing empty chairs in a briefing of the truth. A prayer there is a video.
12 posted on 10/13/2012 6:45:43 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: TomGuy

Yeah buddy..... I think we are within a week of “What did the president know, and when did he know it?” moment.


13 posted on 10/13/2012 6:47:54 AM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: RummyChick

He had the correct information as to the cause...do you really believe he told the administration this lame excuse...Waiting for the other shoe to drop


14 posted on 10/13/2012 6:48:03 AM PDT by rxtn41
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To: silverleaf

At some point, under Clinton’s administration...the only “intelligence” that the White House was getting...was from a State Department team that came in a couple of times a week. I suspect that if you dug into this....it’s again mostly State Department guys briefing the President.


15 posted on 10/13/2012 6:51:26 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: moneyrunner
people in the State Department were actually listening in on the attack

Obama cannot even claim that it was a 3:00 a.m. phone call.

According to the timeline, the attack started about 9:40 p.m. (Libyan time).

Libyan time is 6 hours ahead of Washington's, depending on the Daylight Savings Time differential. That would still put the attack in mid-afternoon, Washington time and even earlier, Mountain [Colorado]/Pacific [Vegas] Daylight Time.


16 posted on 10/13/2012 6:55:26 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: rxtn41

Yes, I do believe it. A congressional source told Fox News that is EXACTLY the excuse he used 3 days after the attack.


17 posted on 10/13/2012 6:56:49 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: rxtn41

There are four senators who have written a letter (Oct 9) to Petraeus, Brennan, and Clapper asking them to clarify exactly what they told the administration. They have asked it be reported in an unclassified format.

Fox reported that a Congressional source indicated Petraeus’ briefing did use the “video” excuse logic.


18 posted on 10/13/2012 6:57:01 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: Travis McGee

I read yesterday Petraus, head of the CIA, said it was a demonstration over the video and I read that General Dempsey called Rev. Jones to warn him not to distribute the video. It was on you-tube and Rev. Jones does not have any control over you-tube - the distributor of the video.

This is from foxnews documentating intellegence community (Petraus) was in on the lie:

“Further, an official said, “No one ... believed that the mortars, indirect and direct fire, and the RPGs were just the work of a mob — no one.”

Yet a congressional source told Fox News that CIA Director David Petraeus, during a briefing with members of the House Intelligence Committee three days after the attack, espoused the view that Benghazi was an out-of-control demonstration prompted by the YouTube video. According to the source, this was “shocking” to some members who were present and saw the same intelligence pointing toward a terrorist attack.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/27/us-officials-knew-libya-attack-was-terrorism-within-24-hours-sources-confirm/

Here is Dempsey shaking his lying leg:

“WASHINGTON, Sept 12 (Reuters) - General Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the U.S. military’s Joint Chiefs of Staff, spoke with Pastor Terry Jones by phone on Wednesday and asked him to withdraw his support for a film whose portrayal of the Prophet Mohammad has sparked violent protests - including one that ended with the death of America’s envoy to Libya... “

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/12/libya-attack-martin-dempsey_n_1878394.html

Who in the intellegence community gave false intellegence on this matter? General Dempsey and General Petraus, just to name two. Did they hide the intellegence from the State Department and President before the attack or did they just lie to everyone after the attack?

Why did they lie after the attack? Were they protecting Obammy and Hillary or were they trying to spin their own pro jihadi policy and stance in sympathy with the enemy from the public eye? They have been killing soldiers with their lies about Islam...putting jihadists on their bases to murder them. Murdering the ambassador through the same negligence/deceipt about Islam, is not that out of step with everything else they are doing.

Their lies are going to get the homeland hit again.


19 posted on 10/13/2012 6:57:39 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: RummyChick

Oh wait, well maybe the answer to your post is that he didn’t tell the Administration the lame excuse - he only lied to Congress.


20 posted on 10/13/2012 6:58:32 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: expat2

James R. Clapper, Jr. is a retired lieutenant general in the United States Air Force and is currently the Director of National Intelligence.

FYI


21 posted on 10/13/2012 6:59:08 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: moneyrunner
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22 posted on 10/13/2012 7:00:59 AM PDT by CMailBag
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To: SaraJohnson

Disagree, SaraJ.

Petraeus does not betray his country.

Remember, he has been a target of Soros’ and allies for years.

Please see my posts from #33 on.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2943865/posts


23 posted on 10/13/2012 7:01:12 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: RummyChick

How far has the MB infiltrated?

45 resumes
Muslim Staffers Assn

Which Congressional source? WHO is THAT?


24 posted on 10/13/2012 7:04:15 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: SaraJohnson
Yet we are supposed to trust the CIA that they are on top of the Iranian nuke timetable.

They can't even protect a consulate, and lie to our faces when it's overrun by a military attack.

They even call a terrorist jihad attack in Fort Hood a "workplace incident."

25 posted on 10/13/2012 7:06:36 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: RummyChick
Petraeus told the House after the attack that it was due to out of control protests over a video.

Hmmmm. I recall earlier in the spring many on FR hoping Petraeus would enter politics on the Republican side. Probably, many of them were touting Colin Powell a decade ago, too.

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26 posted on 10/13/2012 7:06:49 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: combat_boots


27 posted on 10/13/2012 7:10:15 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: combat_boots

“Petraeus does not betray his country.”

It depends on the meaning of “Betray”

Does it mean he doesn’t betray his country if he does the job he is asked to do - even if it means arming terrorists with our weapons. The terrorists who want to take us out.

Does he “betray” our country if he is just doing what he is told but that order includes lying to Congress.

The heads of the CIA are Medusas with snakes attached to their head.

Their history is ripe with overthrowing governments. It’s their forte. They also have a history of whacko operations that make no sense that blow up in their faces.

He might be doing what he is told but that doesn’t mean he isn’t betraying the trust of the American Public.

Ask the American People what they think about giving weapons that can take out airlines to Al Qaeda.


28 posted on 10/13/2012 7:10:35 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: moneyrunner

John Brennan, chief counterterrorism advisor to Obama?


29 posted on 10/13/2012 7:13:04 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: moneyrunner
Does Patraeus answer to Panetta? Do Military heads of the CIA have a statutory obligation to take orders from the Director of the DoD?
30 posted on 10/13/2012 7:17:35 AM PDT by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: RummyChick

Maybe the AQ target in Benghazi actually wasn’t Stevens. Maybe it was the NOC list. So, whoever knows that is the next target.


31 posted on 10/13/2012 7:24:28 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: moneyrunner

Has anyone ever head of term, Serve at the Discretion of? Have all of us understood the meaning of the term? It boils down sometimes to how many lies will the one serving tell to cover for those who are stating tell lies. Turns my stomach. There is more than one whistle-blower in this instance. My belief is from the passion exhibited at the hearing, a few days ago, the documents and proof go to the top. The meeting between zer0 and hillary tells me both are on the hook, and the lies are still being spun and people are being told to lie, or lose their job. The fun, if one can call this fun, is the truth is being held by those not lying. Those presently in charge plan, as has been stated by others, is to run out the clock, win the election and sweep this under the rug. This is where the American People must rise and pull back the rug. Politicians are politicians. All politicians should never be trusted. Even though there should be no politics involved, there is. It is regrettable because people in the highest offices of our land have lied, and this time people died. I’ll wait for the truth, vote first, and pray the American people sweep those in charge of the Executive Branch from office. Then should it be done and those in the Executive Branch are swept from office, will pray some more. First things first. Then during the time from the election to January 20 all must be on guard, for the fox will still be in the hen-house till that date of January 20, as all know. If the election is lost, will prepare, pray, prepare, and pray. America’s future has never been in greater doubt than today. Can see November from this house!


32 posted on 10/13/2012 7:26:41 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: RummyChick
“I hope someone in the press corpse asks the question: just who were these member of the “intelligence community” that were able to mislead the smartest President the world has ever known. We want names. We want to know if these same people also provide “intelligence” on exactly when Iran will have a nuclear weapon. It will give us an idea of just how worried we should be.”

The press are part of what I would call the ‘Government, Media-Entertainment, Academic Complex’ that has as it's foremost goal the perpetuation of its own stature and power, and as a secondary goal the transformation of American society into something that looks like socialist Europe (only more socialist).

I think it's really important to break things down into their fundamental elements, and the common thread among the all of those in the ‘Government, Media-Entertainment, Academic Complex’ is ego. Ego is the number one motivating force behind liberalism - at least at the level of the leadership, organizers, and visible sycophants in the media, entertainment industry, and academics. Never doubt that.

People like Streisand, Penn, Couric, Krugman, O’Brien etc. etc. etc. don't need more money - they have plenty. They don't need to be liberal activists to ‘help others’ - they could do plenty behind the scenes to help those in need financially and otherwise. They do what they do because they think it makes them bigger, and more important in some way. They think of themselves as part of the ‘special’ elite guiders of the world - smarter and more wise than the rest of the ‘masses’, and ordained to guide the masses - and be adored by the masses.

This is absolutely, without doubt, a big part of what drives the media today. They think they are an important component of the guiding elite - and they will ultimately not report or pursue things that support those who want to give more power back to ‘the masses’ and diminish the power of the ‘Government, Media-Entertainment, Academic Complex’ - with which they identify and from which they derive their ‘specialness’.

33 posted on 10/13/2012 7:37:03 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: swamprebel

No and No.


34 posted on 10/13/2012 7:37:46 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: swamprebel

CIA Director Petraeus does not answer to Secretary of Defense Panetta. Petraeus’ boss is Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, who reports to the President.

However, either the DNI or his Principle Deputy must be a commissioned military officer.


35 posted on 10/13/2012 7:39:38 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

who were these member of the ‘intelligence community’”

Just as Paul Ryan couldn’t counter or comment on Biden’s lie about the “intelligence didn’t tell” comment, due to Ryan’s position in Congress, we have no need to know, either.

We have a duty to protect our national security. Even here.


36 posted on 10/13/2012 7:43:25 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: TomGuy

Yes, that’s the guy who probably told them what they wanted to hear, IMO.


37 posted on 10/13/2012 7:43:43 AM PDT by expat2
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
We want names.

It would be great to have the names, thus am in agreement. Do not anticipate the names being brought forth because zer0, hillary, panetta, and the media are in full spin mode and then there is an election coming soon. Watch for maybe a name or two, though best guess is those who have the finger pointed at them will be only to cover for zer0, hillary, panetta, and the media. The primary four suspects are running for cover and a cover-up. They (zer0, hillary, panetta, and the media) will have help beyond belief, as all here know.

38 posted on 10/13/2012 7:44:06 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Travis McGee

I have never been a fan of Petraeus. It must be my suspicion of the big ballyhoo that made him into some kind of a super military genius when his appearance did not convince me of such. All that along with so many people thinking the guy was the answer to the political problems of the USA. I’ll be glad on the day all the Obama toe sucking military persons have to publicly face the dishonor of holding onto Obama. Shame is not strong enough for those persons.


39 posted on 10/13/2012 7:50:34 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: noinfringers2
How about this ... does not someone in the Military have to keep an eye on this zer0 crowd? The truth is difficult to find, in this day. I trust our Military to seek the truth everyday.
40 posted on 10/13/2012 7:55:51 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: combat_boots

I don’t blame you for being suspect of this unnamed source in the congress.

But, I tend to give credit to the story since Petraus came out publically and denounced the freedom of speech when Rev. Jones burned the koran in protest of the Victory Mosque. Also Dempsey would not go out out on a limb with his little jihadi lying drama referenced in my post above, if he was not being backed up by Petraus.

The globalists are sympathic to jihad and both Petraus and Dempsey are globalists. We are screwed if the GOP does not wake up. They are going to hit us on US soil again because the guard is down with the Muslim Brotherhood and Soros.


41 posted on 10/13/2012 7:57:34 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson; combat_boots
both Petraus and Dempsey are globalists

First, my apology boots for butting in.
Sara, that is a statement of conjecture, an unknown.
Sometimes, one must rely on faith, then trust but verify.

42 posted on 10/13/2012 8:06:26 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: expat2

That Crapper hack needs to be fired. Before doing so put him under oath.


43 posted on 10/13/2012 8:07:11 AM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: 103198

mark...


44 posted on 10/13/2012 8:11:02 AM PDT by 103198
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To: jjotto
Then I can't understand why Petraeus would brief the Congressional Committee that it was a protest gone awry over a video, when their was real time evidence to the contrary. Somebody put politic’s over the facts at hand, and I can't see what Petraeus stood to gain by such a scheme.
45 posted on 10/13/2012 8:14:15 AM PDT by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: tennmountainman
Why lose sight of those (zer0, hillary, panetta, the media) who actually caused the deed to take place? At this point would prefer to remain focused, and not go chasing any unknowns. If it turns out this person is involved, give it time FRiend, the truth is eventually going to come out and probably is already there, if this election is not lost.
46 posted on 10/13/2012 8:14:50 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: no-to-illegals

I hear ya fellow freeper. But why hasn’t the House hearings actually called
Hillary, Clapper, Jay Carney, Betraus and put them under oath? Why haven’t
they called Susan Rice and put her under oath? Who told these hacks the
video was the reason for the attack? What memo was sent out to these hacks.
The GOP is dancing around the issue. Not looking for the real truth.
Put these high level hacks under oath.


47 posted on 10/13/2012 8:21:07 AM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: no-to-illegals

trust but verify


I go by evidence; not hope or trust in men.

The evidence is that these men are getting soldiers and civilians murdered by jihadists and they lie about it trying to cover up for the jihadists and place blame on Americans, rather than change course to protect Americans.

They have both stood up against the constitution’s first amendment (blaming freedom for jihad) in submission to Islam and it’s jihad and against America.


48 posted on 10/13/2012 8:25:37 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: tennmountainman
Regrettably FRiend, it is election time. Wish the time-line was different and there was more time before the election. democRATS plan well. This was done for another reason by those at the top than the ones being brought forth, is best guess. The date was planned also 9-11-2012. It takes time to get to the truth. If the election is lost, so will be the truth, though best guess (and I hate to type this) the truth could be lost whether the election is won or lost. Prayerfully, may I be wrong.
49 posted on 10/13/2012 8:30:45 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: swamprebel
I am beginning to suspect the whole Benghazi affair was a planned “rally to the flag,” “September surprise” that backfired.
50 posted on 10/13/2012 8:33:52 AM PDT by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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