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GAFFNEY: The real reason behind Benghazigate
The Virginian ^ | 10/24/2012 | Moneyrunner

Posted on 10/24/2012 6:38:42 PM PDT by moneyrunner

Was Benghazi the base from which Team Obama was funneling arms to Jihads seeking to overthrow Syria and establish another radical Islamist State? Suddenly Ambassador Stevens presence there and his meeting with a Turkish diplomat begins to make sense.

GAFFNEY:

Was Obama gun-walking arms to jihadists?

Thanks to intrepid investigative reporting — notably by Bret Baier and Catherine Herridge at Fox News, Aaron Klein at WND.com and Clare Lopez at RadicalIslam.org — and information developed by congressional investigators, the mystery is beginning to unravel with regard to what happened that night and the reason for the subsequent, clumsy official cover-up now known as Benghazigate.

The evidence suggests that the Obama administration has not simply been engaging, legitimating, enriching and emboldening Islamists who have taken over or are ascendant in much of the Middle East. Starting in March 2011, when American diplomat J. Christopher Stevens was designated the liaison to the “opposition” in Libya, the Obama administration has been arming them, including jihadists like Abdelhakim Belhadj, leader of the al Qaeda franchise known as the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group.

Once Moammar Gadhafi was overthrown, Stevens was appointed ambassador to the new Libya run by Mr. Belhadj and his friends. Not surprisingly, one of the most important priorities for someone in that position would be to try to find and secure the immense amount of armaments that had been cached by the dictator around the country and systematically looted during and after the revolution.

Investigative journalist Aaron Klein has reported that the “consulate in Benghazi” actually was no such thing. He observes that although administration officials have done nothing to correct that oft-repeated characterization of the facility where the murderous attack on Stevens and his colleagues was launched, they call it a “mission.” What Mr. Klein describes as a “shabby, nondescript building” that lacked any “major public security presence” was, according to an unnamed Middle Eastern security official, “routinely used by Stevens and others to coordinate with the Turkish, Saudi and Qatari governments on supporting the insurgencies in the Middle East, most prominently the rebels opposing Assad’s regime in Syria.”

We know that Stevens‘ last official act was to hold such a meeting with an unidentified “Turkish diplomat.” Presumably, the conversation involved additional arms shipments to al Qaeda and its allies in Syria. It also may have involved getting more jihadi fighters there. After all, Mr. Klein reported last month that, according to sources in Egyptian security, our ambassador was playing a “central role in recruiting jihadists to fight Bashar al-Assad’s regime in Syria.”

It gets worse. Last week, Center for Security Policy senior fellow and former career CIA officer Clare Lopez observed that there were two large warehouse-type buildings associated with the so-called “consulate” whose purpose has yet to be disclosed. As their contents were raided in the course of the attack, we may never know for sure whether they housed — and were known by the local jihadis to house — arms, perhaps administered by the two former Navy SEALs killed along with Stevens.

It's also part of a pattern that's emerging about Obama's policies in the Middle East. Note that all of countries that have experienced the so-called "Arab Spring" have produced radical Islamist leaders. Which leads to a common question when you see the results of the Obama policies: are the policies failures or are they deliberately designed to do what they have done? Some have asked this about Obama's domestic "failures" and now it's worth asking about the destruction of American interests overseas.

It also leads to another interesting question: what group is actually responsible for the attack? The Islamists who were getting the weapons don't have an obvious motive for the attack. Syria's Assad regime would benefit from the destruction of the Benghazi compound. We won’t get a truthful answer if Obama is re-elected, and a Romney administration may not want to open that can of worms.

This could also explain why the CIA and the State Department are both willing to fall on their swords and claim that the attack was all about a You Tube video. The discussion about who knew what and when they knew it diverts attention from alternative reason behind the attack. Once you eliminate the video as the spark that led to the attack you are left with no stated motive. The default motive: that Jihadists don't like us and would attack us, just as they would any enemy, is plausible on the surface, ... but under closer scrutiny doesn't pass the smell test.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: benghazi; benghazicoverup; benghazigate; benghazisecurity; cia; obama; obamabehghazi

1 posted on 10/24/2012 6:38:42 PM PDT by moneyrunner
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To: moneyrunner

Ambassador Chris Stevens Knew his Killers. He Ran Them As Double Agents
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2939310/posts


2 posted on 10/24/2012 6:46:25 PM PDT by drewh
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To: moneyrunner

I’ve been saying all along that the story of various government agencies buying ammo was really cover for ammo and weapons going elsewhere.


3 posted on 10/24/2012 6:48:37 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: moneyrunner; zot; Interesting Times

Gaffney’s scenario and reasons are plausible to me. Gaffney is very experienced in the defense area and I’ve never seen him run off with conspiracy theories.


4 posted on 10/24/2012 6:49:02 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: moneyrunner

OK. I get Syria. They’ve been enemies for years. But Libya and Egypt? The Democrats wet themselves worrying about Reagan trying to run the communists out of our back yard in Nicaragua. Now, they’re going to be imperialists with Libya and Egypt and Syria? Doesn’t make sense. There’s money involved. These Democrats are getting money from somebody.


5 posted on 10/24/2012 6:49:10 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: cripplecreek

except for 9mm, I don’t think any of the govt buys in the news would fit the predominantly Soviet/Warsaw Pact supplied weapons the Libyans used/stockpiled.


6 posted on 10/24/2012 6:54:33 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: GreyFriar

Depends on whether what they were reporting that they wee buying was really what they were buying.

They certainly weren’t arming the postal service and social security office.


7 posted on 10/24/2012 6:56:51 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: moneyrunner

Well, gee, maybe Mr. John Boner should use the 1/2 of 1/3 of governmental power he has to investigate the issue.

Or he can just continue to rotate on his thumb like he has done for the past two years...


8 posted on 10/24/2012 7:04:53 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: moneyrunner

It really doesn’t matter much. No USG official should be travelling 400 miles from the embassy without proper security on the ground (unless you’re a properly trained operator). Especially not the ambassador himself and especially not in such an unsettled environment where there are always threats. The idea that these were rioters shouldn’t have been pushed by Rice. They should simply have stated the facts (that the US contingent was attacked and the amb, among others, was dead) and stated that the rest is as of this moment not fully resolved.


9 posted on 10/24/2012 7:22:34 PM PDT by GodfearingTexan
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To: moneyrunner

We the People no longer can say we run our government.


10 posted on 10/24/2012 7:27:06 PM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: cripplecreek

“I’ve been saying all along that the story of various government agencies buying ammo was really cover for ammo and weapons going elsewhere.”

I don’t think that works for the middle east. The huge HSA purchase was .40 caliber JHP. AK-47’s don’t shoot .40 caliber. Unless we’re arming them with .40 caliber pistols . . .


11 posted on 10/24/2012 7:28:11 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: GreyFriar

Maybe the Jihadis in Libya got pissed because we were sending their weapons to the Jihadis in Syria.


12 posted on 10/24/2012 7:50:13 PM PDT by zot
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To: drewh
Damn... Looks like Fast&Furious isn't just along OUR border! AntiObamaSticker.com
13 posted on 10/24/2012 7:53:08 PM PDT by Timm007
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To: zot

Discovering the real reason for the attack prior to the election would be interesting.


14 posted on 10/24/2012 7:57:44 PM PDT by agincourt1415 (Tired of the current State, and Federal Tax System go here: APTTAX.com)
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To: moneyrunner

TREASON - aid, comfort and weapons to enemies and pre-meditated lies in the form of direct attacks on amendment 1.

In other words...taqiyya and sharia law in one fell swoop.

TREASON like this republic has never seen before.

“The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of islam.” - U.S.A. president

FUBO
Fislam
Ftheexcusemakers


15 posted on 10/24/2012 8:00:01 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: moneyrunner
Remember Saddam's martyrs, ‘Men of Sacrifice’ or Fedayeen. Well it sure looks like Obama has his own ‘fedayeen’ and some of them went rogue because of Obama’s drones. Obama cannot serve two masters.
16 posted on 10/24/2012 8:00:12 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Please help Todd Akin defeat Claire and the GOP-e send money!!!!!)
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To: moneyrunner

Yeah, I’ve noticed the use of the word “mission” instead of consolate.


17 posted on 10/24/2012 8:08:07 PM PDT by Yardstick
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18 posted on 10/24/2012 8:12:13 PM PDT by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: agincourt1415
"The Islamists who were getting the weapons don't have an obvious motive for the attack. Syria's Assad regime would benefit from the destruction of the Benghazi compound."

I know! I know! I know who done it! Putin.

LBJ and Nixon covered up the Soviet destruction of deaths of all aboard our USS Scorpion.

19 posted on 10/24/2012 8:12:49 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: moneyrunner

Why was there no military back-up once our commanders knew of this attack?


20 posted on 10/24/2012 8:13:15 PM PDT by mia
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To: PGalt
“The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of islam.” - U.S.A. president""""".......

THERE IT IS. America is lost........

When will Issa, Chaffetz and all of Congress GET ON THIS? What are they doing?

They had one hearing and they promised more, WHEN? What are they waiting for? Why are they in not speaking to the Media?

We don't need this to break open after NOV 6th. We need it now and before Obama and crew can SCRUB that video.

I think I am going to be sick, waiting for results NOW.

If this was a Republican president, I can guarantee you that Pelosi, Reid, etc.,etc.,etc.,, would have FULL 24/7 face time with the media.

21 posted on 10/24/2012 8:21:44 PM PDT by annieokie (O)
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To: moneyrunner
Investigative journalist Aaron Klein has reported that the “consulate in Benghazi” actually was no such thing.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2949789/posts
"This Is What Benghazi ‘Consulate’ Really Was" by Aaron Klein

22 posted on 10/24/2012 8:42:02 PM PDT by Dajjal (Justice Robert Jackson was wrong -- the Constitution IS a suicide pact.)
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To: moneyrunner

Maybe the Jihadis in Libya got pissed because Ambassador Chris Stevens was trying to get those Stinger missiles back. We will get them back all right—when they shoot down another TWA 800.


23 posted on 10/24/2012 9:22:20 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: moneyrunner
It also leads to another interesting question: what group is actually responsible for the attack? The Islamists who were getting the weapons don't have an obvious motive for the attack. Syria's Assad regime would benefit from the destruction of the Benghazi compound.

It now begs another question. Were the 'leaked' e-mails today that name Al Qaeda just another cover story for yet another 0bama lie?

24 posted on 10/24/2012 11:41:46 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Yardstick

That’s pretty common. I recall embassies and consulates being referred to as missions as far back as the ‘70s.


25 posted on 10/25/2012 12:13:09 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: moneyrunner

And Dims still try to make hay about Iran Contra....


26 posted on 10/25/2012 2:39:58 AM PDT by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: cripplecreek
I’ve been saying all along that the story of various government agencies buying ammo was really cover for ammo and weapons going elsewhere.

Perhaps. But you really don't need to export arms and ammo to Libya; the country is awash in them. But collecting them and sending shipments of arms to Syrian "rebels" via Turkey is logical. What isn't logical is arming fanatical Jihadists. We did that in Afghanistan and that helped defeat the USSR, but it also turned poorly armed fanatics into well armed fanatics who hated us as much as they did the Russians.

27 posted on 10/25/2012 4:25:03 AM PDT by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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To: GreyFriar
Gaffney’s scenario and reasons are plausible to me. Gaffney is very experienced in the defense area and I’ve never seen him run off with conspiracy theories.

I agree that Gaffney makes a compelling case. The theory about Syrian involvement is my addition to it. It seems to me that you need more than general hatred for us to put together a well planned attack on several buildings separated by a mile. They used more than rifles and RPGs; they used mortars and that takes set-up time and spotters. The attackers also included blocking units that tried to ambush our personnel as they traveled between the buildings. This sounds very professional, definitely not something cobbled together on the spur of the moment.

28 posted on 10/25/2012 4:34:34 AM PDT by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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To: blueunicorn6
OK. I get Syria. They’ve been enemies for years. But Libya and Egypt? The Democrats wet themselves worrying about Reagan trying to run the communists out of our back yard in Nicaragua. Now, they’re going to be imperialists with Libya and Egypt and Syria? Doesn’t make sense. There’s money involved. These Democrats are getting money from somebody.

Imagine that you are a Leftist who doesn't like America because America has been "dictating" to the rest of the world. Imagine that you want America to have less influence in the Middle East and the region is in turmoil. Imagine that you actually admire the Muslim Brotherhood because you are sympathetic to Islam and are also sympathetic to their anti-Americanism. If you think like that wouldn't you support, with money and arms, regimes like the one that has taken over Egypt and may well take over Syria if Assad falls? Would you not avoid aiding the protesters in the streets of Iran a few years ago? If you were Obama, wouldn't that make sense?

29 posted on 10/25/2012 4:44:33 AM PDT by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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To: GodfearingTexan
It really doesn’t matter much. No USG official should be travelling 400 miles from the embassy without proper security on the ground (unless you’re a properly trained operator). Especially not the ambassador himself and especially not in such an unsettled environment where there are always threats. The idea that these were rioters shouldn’t have been pushed by Rice. They should simply have stated the facts (that the US contingent was attacked and the amb, among others, was dead) and stated that the rest is as of this moment not fully resolved.

I agree, that would have worked out better for them than the lie they told. The problem is that this interfered with Team Obama's claim that with Osama dead al Qaeda was finished off. So they came up with a story they figured the MSM would buy. Remember, for 3 days after the attack the "story" was that Romney's comments were a gaffe. Very little attention was paid to the attack with all the MSM's fire trained on Romney. Team Obama was so convinced that the MSM would cover for them and would broadcast any lie that they got very, very stupid.

30 posted on 10/25/2012 4:53:40 AM PDT by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
I know! I know! I know who done it! Putin.

Well, Putin is an ally of Assad. It's actually a possibility.

31 posted on 10/25/2012 4:56:01 AM PDT by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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To: moneyrunner

32 posted on 10/25/2012 4:59:48 AM PDT by New Perspective (Proud father of a 8 yr old son with Down Syndrome and fighting to keep him off Obama's death panels.)
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To: mia
Why was there no military back-up once our commanders knew of this attack?

Not to get too conspiratorial, but if you are hiding the fact that you have warehouses of weapons going to Syria, would you think long and hard about sending a bunch of troops there who may blow your cover?

Then again, keep in mind that Obama was on his way to a fundraiser in Las Vegas and could not be reached for a decision.

33 posted on 10/25/2012 5:01:17 AM PDT by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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