Skip to comments.Where are the Communications from Ambassador Stevens During the Attack?
Posted on 10/26/2012 5:17:49 AM PDT by marktwain
Where are the communications that were sent from the mission in Benghazi just before and during the attack? Are we to believe that Ambassador Stevens and his highly trained men never let anyone know what was going on, or asked for help?
It is hard for me to believe that there was a live feed of the attack back to the situation room of the White House, but that there was no information sent by the people who were under attack, and that there were no requests from them.
What did they say? What did they ask? What were they denied?
Are we to believe that Ambassador Stevens and the other defenders did not even have a cell phone? Are we to believe that the defenders held out for six or seven hours, and never asked for reinforcements or assistance?
What did they ask for, and what were they told?
OBAMA WENT TO BED
Matt Bracken 10-25-2012
The biggest stench from the Benghazi fiasco is that it is beginning to smell like Obama went “nighty-night” to rest up for Las Vegas, instead of manning up in the Situation Room and seeing the crisis through and (had he only been awake) ordering a rescue mission.
In Benghazi, after 6-8 hours enduring a few Fort Apaches, with running street battles in ...between, (like a mini Blackhawk Down), the living Americans must have been thinking, Any minute now, here come the helicopters! Just hang on!
But they didnt. So even though Delta had forward staged to Sigonella Sicily (rumint) from base in Germany, nobody was willing or able to pull the trigger and send a rescue force. Or even a few F-18 supersonic flybys, to bust windows and warn, Here comes American airpower, and you camel jockeys know what that means. Just as a morale booster it would have helped the besieged staffers.
But it was never sent, not even a lousy supersonic low-level flyby. One hour from bases in Italy, max.
Here is the deal. The military automatically does a lot on its own, under standing orders and SOPs. The minute they see that the consulate is under attack, and the ambassador and others are in a “safe room” hiding, it becomes TOP priority. Every other mission aborts or slaves over to support any possible rescue.
At that moment when the critical incident alarm messages start ringing, military steps happen on autopilot in real time. Everybody in the Navy and USAF chain of command swings into a crisis contingency plan mode. What ships are closest? Helicopters? Marines? Delta is in Germany? Get them moving right now. Where is closest? Sigonella, for now. Its NATO, no permission needed, just fly.
En route in C-17s, the D-boys would even be prepping for an immediate action rescue mission, that is, the C-17s will fly directly to some desert road outside of Benghazi, and here comes The Raid On Entebbe, done in crisis mode, canned actions, but they would do it. They practice for these exact scenarios, and leave gear staged for them.
They would coordinate with fighters out of Italy, mid-air-refueling platforms start shifting, it’s a huge show that swings into action for thousands of miles around Behghazi. The ongoing consulate attack is JOB ONE, the only job. VIPs will be tossed off of planes at remote runways if they need that platform.
Or Marines on amphibious ships in the central Med, (if any were available), would also be put on the real-time options board. We used to have a “Amphibious Ready Group” of about 3-5 USN gator freighters, including a helo carrier like a Tarawa class. They carry an entire battalion of USMC, plus SEALs etc, with helos and Ospreys to carry them all. (But not at once.) Where was our ARG? Does our Navy have enough ships for that mission any more?
But while all of that military staging would have happened/did happen during the 6-8 hour battle at the consulate and annex, what the military cannot do on their own say-so is cross an international border without an order from the NCA, the National Command Authority, and that means POTUS, Obama.
Only POTUS can authorize a cross-border hostile mission. That is, guns clear, no official permission from the Tripoli govt (if it really exists outside State Dept fantasies.)
Only one man can pull that trigger and say, “GO!” Obama.
(But for America to act “unilaterally” would have meant the bogus Libyan Arab Spring and so-called new Libyan Unity Govt. that we were propping up didnt really exist. Libyan sovereignty must be held sacrosanct, even the false image of one, where in reality, Al Queda is top dog in Libya. Even when an Al Queda offshoot is your external “security,” namely, “The 17th of February Martyrs Brigade.” IOW, the White House thought they had a “deal” with AQ in Behghazi, since we were helping to run weaponry from Libya to their pals in Syria. So there was an “institutional bias” at State against crossing the border on a rescue operation sin permisso.)
Anyway, be that as it may, no General or Admiral will order the Marines ashore, or a Delta raid or even an F-18 or F-16 low-level supersonic flyby. They can not and will not cross a border without a clear-cut order from POTUS via the NCA. Not even Hillary can make that decision. Only Obama.
But no order came, as of midnight in DC. And then none would come. Because the POTUS retired for the night with a do not disturb sign on his door, punted, and went to bed, to be well rested for Las Vegas.
While his ambassador was off the U.S. radar, missing, at that moment possibly being dragged down a Benghazi street or even raped. But that is when Obama went to bed. Midnight in DC is 0600 in Beghazi.
That is the greatest scandal of Benghazi. The POTUS slept through it, while all around the world, military forces were poised for the Raid on Entebbe or any other damn thing the POTUS ordered them to do. (And the were raring to go, believe me.)
But the POTUS said, Well discuss it further in the morning, and then he went to bed around midnight in DC, 0600 in Benghazi, with a missing ambassador and a full-blown crisis in full mega flap.
He punted. He went to bed.
God help us.
I think thats the big secret they are keeping. The President went to bed, with his lost Ambassador being dragged through streets.
Obama went to bed.
You would need John Edward (not Edwards) to get communication from Stevens.
He was cowering in the back room. But that is what diplomats do.
It seems like ALL the “bad decisions” from this situation go directly to Barack Obama. Hillary asked for additional security for Stevens, and my understanding is that Obama is the only one who could - and did - veto that. As you’ve outlined, the military response is automatic and would have been stopped by only one thing: Obama.
Obama’s actions were consistent before and after the attack. It’s no wonder he couldn’t look the father of the slain SEAL in the eyes.
Yeah, but he can brag about doing an all nighter 24/7 campaign swing.
Obama, Biden, Clintons - they are all cold fish - that’s how Charles Woods father of the slain Seal, Tyrone Woods, described them.
You are probably correct. I have a hard time believing that he was not on the phone in that room, desperately asking for assistance and for updates on when it would arrive.
Ping to 3.
Probably in the same place 0bama's REAL BC is.
1. A “deal” with Al Qaeda in Benghazi (17th Feb Martyr's Brigade for outside security!) in return for
2. Running guns from the Libyan stockpiles to Al Qaeda groups in Syria.
3. Obama couldn't pull the trigger on a rescue and upset the above-outlined disgusting applecart,
4. So he punted and went to bed, while his ambassador was missing and was being dragged in the streets, because resting up for Las Vegas was more important to him.
5. And finally, to cover up his malfeasance and dereliction of duty, he cooked up the “The Mohamed Video Did It” cover and excuse, even taking this pro-sharia “we understand your anger” apology message to the U.N. on Sept. 25, two weeks later.
Direct link to interview:
Col. David Hunt explains how at least 12 command centers got near INSTANTANEOUS info when the Benghazi consulate was attacked, including a manned WH situation room. Hundreds of government personnel listened/watched for 6 hours in real time as the attack ensued. Hunt says it is standard operating procedure when an embassy is attacked.
WH gave no military order to intervene.
They knew almost immediately that there was NO protest, NO mob- just a surgical jihad operation viewed instantaneously in real time by governmental operations centers all over the world, including CIA, Dept of State and WH situation room, for over 6 hours.
In short, everyone knew, almost immediately, what happened in Benghazi was an act of war.
Given the recent events, that New Yorker cover seems positively prescient.
...”Here is the deal. The military automatically does a lot on its own, under standing orders and SOPs. The minute they see that the consulate is under attack, and the ambassador and others are in a safe room hiding, it becomes TOP priority. Every other mission aborts or slaves over to support any possible rescue.
“At that moment when the critical incident alarm messages start ringing, military steps happen on autopilot in real time. Everybody in the Navy and USAF chain of command swings into a crisis contingency plan mode. What ships are closest? Helicopters? Marines? Delta is in Germany? Get them moving right now. Where is closest? Sigonella, for now. Its NATO, no permission needed, just fly.”
Thank you for this post. It needs to be broadcast
Can you send this please share this info with Romney, Rush and Drudge?
And thank you for your service helping to keep my family and our Country safe.
It will come out that there were phone calls, radios, emergency lines, sat uplinks, you name it. The comm guys LIVE for those moments, all of their comm plans come down to “what if TSHTF and we need help.” They plan to be jammed, power cut off, etc, with secure and robust comes in the “safe room.”
Personally, I am waiting for some Colonel to appear on a Sunday morning talking head show and blow this scandal wide open, like Col David Hackworth did circa 1971. There are 100s of Americans in possessino of the 9-11 message traffic, who know exactly what happened, and why no rescue was ordered.
I have little hope that any “flag ranks” (admirals or generals) will do the honorable thing and expose this shameful fiasco. They are mostly political prostitutes who would sell their own soldiers to arab rape gangs for another star on their shoulders.
I believe it is plausible the DoD was not privy to this paramilitary adventure and therefore unable to respond with any timely military backup
the CIA guys running this operation would have been talking to someone in the WH when the SHFT, someone who has not yet been named or questioned. Someone who sees his primary job as protecting obama
Yes Stevens had a cell phone but whether it worked in his “safe room”, or whether he was unrestrained enough to use it, is tbd.
An open source report which probably has disappeared indicated that a Libyan national at the hospital where Stevens’ battered body was deposited, the next day (over 7 hours after the attack) “found” his cell phone and started dialing numbers until someone answered
That is how the USG found the Ambassador's body
Very interesting time line if it is ever revealed ..maybe in Harvey Weinstein’s next movie (sarc)
I just saw a headline at Drudge, that the Pentagon is claiming they knew too little to send troops to Benghazi. Maybe they’re parsing words, talking about ground troops when the contingency plan would call for something else. But if they knew that Stevens was in a safe room that’s all they need to know for a contingency plan to kick in, if I’m understanding what you said. This is what drills are for. This is what equipment and troops are stationed in various places for.
Seems to me that what Obama should have said in the debate was that it makes no sense to have an adequate military when the foreign enemy combatant in the White House will never let us use what we’ve got anyway. All the money spent on the military is a waste if the guy at the head isn’t willing to let the military do what it is created and trained to do.
Obama has disposed of the Constitution and the rule of law. Now it’s becoming increasingly clear that he is disposing of the US military. What’s sad is that the leadership of that military seems to be going right along with it. And they of all people should know better.
The fact that the dad of this SEAL immediately knew that the stories coming out sounded like BS - simply because he knew some of the military protocols - tells me that the military people have all got to know something is very, very wrong here.
And the fact that this slain SEAL’s dad said his son had misgivings about this last mission he was supposed to do suggests that even before the attack, this SEAL knew something was wrong there.
Good question; good post. BTTT!
The brave patriots in the situation room room were doing everything in their power to get the film-maker, the real culprit in this “bump in the road”. Right Hillary?
TREASON...in real time...right now...ongoing.
I think it is difficult to play the “The Secretary Will Disavow All Knowledge” card with a U.S. Ambassador.
The SEALs were able to get communications asking for help. And the emails went out to hundreds of places. How could the CIA lawfully undo the US military?
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