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New York Wants $6 Billion In Printed Money to Help Them Rebuild
November 1, 2012 | PittsburghAfterDark

Posted on 11/01/2012 12:24:37 PM PDT by PittsburghAfterDark

I am just sitting here in a bizarre sense of smug self-satisfaction reading about New York governor Andrew Cuomo and various Democratic senators and politicians asking the Federal government to pick up 100% of the costs in rebuilding their state and "the greatest city in the world".

Their line of thought? They can't print money like the Federal government can so, buddy, get those printing presses up to speed.

This is one of those road to Damascus moments. What exactly is the role of government? Well we've seen what it is, government is the ultimate tool and the ultimate control for keeping a population dependent across all segments of society.

Governor Chris Christie has asked for a whopping 7 day change in fuel distribution rules to allow New Jersey retailers to be allowed to buy gasoline from outside the state. The EPA is waiving gasoline blend regulations in an attempt to refill tanks in the state with fuel that works, regardless of any other consideration. President Obama has thrown down the gauntlet and said no red tape, just get it done.

Now, isn't it just amazing that suddenly government rules, regulations and stipulations are being acknowledged as problems? Oh, but only for a week or two. Don't get used to it.

Personally I think the thing that I am most personally offended by is that these bluest of blue states are now crying to the rest of the country that they need us to pay for, not now of course but someday (I mean what's $6 billion on top of $17,000,000,000,000.) their reconstruction.

Well folks, lets remember what you poor red state suckers have been told. Without the blue states paying for you you wouldn't exist. The red states are net takers from the Federal pie with more money going to your states than coming from your states. Now remember something, those red states house military bases, those red states build your national defense hardware, those red states grow your food and raise your livestock. That's the majority of the surplus if not its etirety.

In return for doing that for those New Yorkers, they mock you. Sometimes its innocent and annoying belittling you as living in fly over country or living in the sticks. Other times it's just downright hostile. You're a racist, bigoted, homophobe, knuckle dragging teabagger, Reich Winger, Replikkkan et all.

However now, you owe them. You owe them $6,000,000,000 today. You owe them the privilege of paying for rebuilding Tribeca home to Robery DiNiro. You owe them to rebuild the Village where you would be likely spit on and chased out of any establishment for wearing a Romney Ryan t-shirt even today as their elected representatives demand your cash.

You see, I just know how I can really react in a positive manner to such a request. Give us your money, but f you, all of you and the horses you rode in on to give us the check.

You see the mayor of New York has been very concerned with childhood obesity, limiting trans fats New York City restaurants and selling 16 ounce sodas instead of Big Gulps. Protecting lower Manhattan from the sea? Building flood controls for the Brooklyn Battery, PATH and subway tunnels? No, not important. But dammit get those reps from KFC, McDonald's, Coke and Hershey in here! There's a hearing to be had on fat kids!

"New York State is upside down and backwards; high taxes and low performance. The New York State government was at one time a national model. Now, unfortunately, it's a national disgrace. Sometimes, the corruption in Albany could even make Boss Tweed blush." Andrew Cuomo

I don't need to say it, their own governor did. Now you bold, new leader. Lead and figure out a way to pay for it on your own.

We've had it, our sympathy is all used up.


TOPICS: Government; Society; Weather
KEYWORDS: cuomo; nj; nyc; sandy

1 posted on 11/01/2012 12:24:43 PM PDT by PittsburghAfterDark
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

Hahahaha. LOL!

What a bunch! NYtimes say it’s a surprise announcement.

Mayor Bloomberg Endorses Obama for Re-election, Citing Climate Change


2 posted on 11/01/2012 12:29:47 PM PDT by FryingPan101 (2016 looms)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark
Warren Buffett on holding gold:

Gold gets dug out of the ground in Africa, or someplace. Then we melt it down, dig another hole, bury it again and pay people to stand around guarding it. It has no utility. Anyone watching from Mars would be scratching their head.

But those Martians would fully understand printing up more and more $$$ to pay for the projects of politically connected Governors in the financial capital of the Empire? If not Martians, at least the Romans would understand it!

3 posted on 11/01/2012 12:32:23 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

Why would the greatest city needs other peoples money??


4 posted on 11/01/2012 12:34:58 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

Why not put this OFF until After the election..???
Even after the Bengazi investigation..


5 posted on 11/01/2012 12:35:20 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

Every natural disaster that occurs in every state results in federal aid. This will never change.

I have always failed to understand the Tea Party stance on this. Of course, every Republican governor and Tea Party patriot has also failed to understand this line of thought the very second their state is destroyed by a natural disaster.

The Gulf and SE coasts will see more hurricanes and the deep south will see more tornadoes. and we’ll see more federal aide flowing into those areas. It’s just absurd to rail against FEMA and Federal aid for such things. You can nuance it all you want, but it’s still absurd.

In addition, I’m not understanding your point about the states that pay more into the federal coffers than they take. You’re saying that while it’s indeed true (it is), that it’s bullcrap because the biggest “taker” states house our military bases and farms?

Do you agree with massive farm subsidies?


6 posted on 11/01/2012 12:38:59 PM PDT by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

This is close to Freeper Editorial standards. If you tweaked it just a little, this is quality work.


7 posted on 11/01/2012 12:40:17 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The Pravda Press has gone from 'biased' straight on through to 'utterly bizarre'.)
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To: whattajoke

What did all these states do before FEMA was around to come to the rescue?


8 posted on 11/01/2012 12:41:10 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: whattajoke
"Every natural disaster that occurs in every state results in federal aid. This will never change."

Disaster aid to help people suffering from the immediate aftermath of a disaster is one thing. Subsidizing the rebuilding of a city that built an elaborate tunnel netowrk on an island is a whole different thing. People who decide to live on the coast, and enjoy the benefits thereof, should pay for the consequences in rebuilding on their own. That's what insurance and/or saving is for.

9 posted on 11/01/2012 12:43:37 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: PGR88
"Gold... it has no utility."

But connections to lawmakers and electronic credits, that's where the real utility is to create wealth and power...

10 posted on 11/01/2012 12:46:07 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: whattajoke
Every natural disaster that occurs in every state results in federal aid.

Oh? Like the emergency declaration for the State of Texas for the wildfires? Wait... that didn't happen.

/johnny

11 posted on 11/01/2012 12:46:14 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: whattajoke

To clarify a bit, I am all for states and locales being ensured a politically neutral across the board we’re hurting, we need help so help is on the way.

What I am not in favor of is New York and New Jersey politicians crying for a 100% blank check. The standard has been the feds pay 75% the states and locales pay the rest. Elected and appointed officials are wanting their 25% to also be picked up by the Federal government.

This is unacceptable.

This is not a rail against FEMA and Federal aid but the arrogance of those in New York and New Jersey political ranks.

What irks me about the red states being net takers argument is that defense is never taken into account as a reason why. Do I agree with farm subsidies? No. Especially when the majority of them are paid out to foolishly turn our food supply into gasoline substitutes.


12 posted on 11/01/2012 12:47:25 PM PDT by PittsburghAfterDark
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To: Alberta's Child
What did all these states do before FEMA was around to come to the rescue?

The US has a long, long history of helping our own post-disaster. There's a bunch here, including Herbert Hoover's nascent attempts at a FEMA-like organization. Until FEMA, the feds helped out the same ways, but it was a monumental mess of different orgs doing it piecemeal.

In the 1800's, everythign was handled ad hoc, but it was handled by the feds.

You're making me sound like a FEMA apologist, which I'm not. I'm a FEMA-realist that has seen them help out tornado/hurricane ravaged areas who supposedly hate FEMA and federal aid too many times to ignore.
13 posted on 11/01/2012 12:48:35 PM PDT by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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To: circlecity
Disaster aid to help people suffering from the immediate aftermath of a disaster is one thing. Subsidizing the rebuilding of a city that built an elaborate tunnel netowrk on an island is a whole different thing. People who decide to live on the coast, and enjoy the benefits thereof, should pay for the consequences in rebuilding on their own. That's what insurance and/or saving is for.

I agree with this 100%. Well, maybe 90% as those tunnel networks on an island do propel the economy.
14 posted on 11/01/2012 12:50:42 PM PDT by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark
Now look what you started, rofl.

BTW: I agree with everything you said.

This is going to be a VERY long thread. lol

15 posted on 11/01/2012 12:51:38 PM PDT by annieokie
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

Ok, then I’m cool with your piece. I just misread the tone. Freegards.


16 posted on 11/01/2012 12:51:59 PM PDT by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark
WHATEVER IT TAKES, WHATEVER IT TAKES
17 posted on 11/01/2012 12:52:17 PM PDT by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

I can’t find it now, but I read somewhere that after the 1906 earthquake devastated San Francisco, Teddy Roosevelt offered federal aid to the city. The Governor replied (paraphrased) “We’ll let you know if we need help.”

If true, we’ve come a long way, baby.


18 posted on 11/01/2012 12:57:27 PM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: whattajoke
I was reading through a historical account of all the hurricanes that have affected New Jersey since the mid-1800s. Until recently there was no involvement of the Federal government at all, with the exception of the National Weather Service. In fact, the article about one hurricane back in the first few decades of the 20th Century indicated that the hurricane recovery efforts along the Jersey Shore were financed by private contributions -- the largest of which was a big donation from a major Philadelphia newspaper.

With Hurricane Sandy, FEMA will likely be extraneous. These two states in this region are perfectly capable of handling most aspects of the storm recovery themselves. The only area where Federal involvement is likely to be absolutely necessary will be for the channels and berths around the Port of New York & New Jersey, where the Army Corps of Engineers will have to check the water depths to ensure that large ships can still fit into the port facilities.

Beyond that, I can pretty much guarantee you that an awful lot of the Federal money will be simply be used to pay overtime for police who are out directing traffic and guarding gas stations from looters and angry customers.

19 posted on 11/01/2012 12:57:27 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Alberta's Child

They didn’t keep rebuilding in flood prone places for one thing.

“Confessions of a Welfare Queen-
How rich bastards like me rip off taxpayers for millions of dollars”

http://reason.com/archives/2004/03/01/confessions-of-a-welfare-queen


20 posted on 11/01/2012 1:04:10 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Oatka
Good point -- but keep in mind that any "Federal help" for San Francisco in 1906 was likely to be weeks away, as the only way to transport large quantities of materials there was by ship.

At any rate, you can be sure that Teddy Roosevelt wasn't about to hop on a horse and ride to California for a photo-op with the governor!

21 posted on 11/01/2012 1:05:20 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

Maybe N.Y. should have thought that maybe, just maybe they may need money for ANOTHER disaster before they spent it on bullsh!t projects and government largesse.


22 posted on 11/01/2012 1:10:49 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

“What makes the Big Sh*tty so spoecial?

Let the Liberal Democrtats rebuild their own city. They have certainly stolen many megabucks over the years.

Obama and the Democrats talked about “shovel ready jobs” - and not they are living in one.

Start digging, folks, start digging.

PS You had this happen a few times before, so you had historic warnings and should have bought insurance.

PPS Had you not disarmed yourselves, you would not be cowering in the dark, afraid of the Urban Ferals your Liberalism created.


23 posted on 11/01/2012 1:20:17 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

i just heard this on the radio and came here to verify it. i pay for insurance to cover lose. if i was on a flood plain i would have flood insurance. if i was renting i would have renters’ insurance. it’s the responsible thing to do. if they want 100% they can kiss my flyover country white conservvative patriotic butt. let them pay for their own rebuilding. given it’s been 11 years and the WTC is still not finished, rebuilding after sandy should only take 100 years. corrupt arrogant bastards.


24 posted on 11/01/2012 2:12:26 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (if the little things really annoy you, maybe it's because the big things are going well.)
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To: FryingPan101

I don’t see why NYC doesn’t just go straight to the Chicoms and cut out the middleman. Probably get a better rate, or maybe just put up the Brooklyn bridge and the WTC as collateral.

Sure, borrow money from China to rebuild from a storm..I wonder what we did in the 1880’s? I guess there weren’t storms back then, or did people take care of themselves. That’s kind of a novel idea, isn’t it?


25 posted on 11/01/2012 2:13:49 PM PDT by nobamanomore
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To: PGR88

“It has no utility”

How can successful and apparently intelligent people be so stupid? Gold has utility as among other things currency. In fact it is the most useful currency in human history. It’s a good thing that we have to go dig it up in Africa, because that means thieves with economic degrees from Harvard can’t conjure it up on a computer and steal people’s savings. We guard it because other people want to steal it, which is further proof of it’s usefulness.

The Martian thing is the old John Rawls trick. There lack of knowledge is supposed to be some sort of advantage. Well, if I could explain the laws of human economics to them maybe they’d get it. Why Buffett doesn’t is hard to explain outside of dishonesty.


26 posted on 11/01/2012 3:08:37 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: PGR88

“It has no utility”

How can successful and apparently intelligent people be so stupid? Gold has utility as among other things currency. In fact it is the most useful currency in human history. It’s a good thing that we have to go dig it up in Africa, because that means thieves with economic degrees from Harvard can’t conjure it up on a computer and steal people’s savings. We guard it because other people want to steal it, which is further proof of it’s usefulness.

The Martian thing is the old John Rawls trick. Their lack of knowledge is supposed to be some sort of advantage. Well, if I could explain the laws of human economics to them maybe they’d get it. Why Buffett doesn’t is hard to explain outside of dishonesty.


27 posted on 11/01/2012 3:08:48 PM PDT by Tublecane
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