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Jobs Report Overstated by 123k Because Of Lockheed "Delay" Thanks to Obama Rigging the Report
Confounded Interest ^ | 11/03/2012 | Anthony B. Sanders

Posted on 11/03/2012 9:47:31 AM PDT by whitedog57

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the unemployment rate rose from 7.8% to 7.9% for October.

The number of unemployed in the US rose from 12,088,000 in September to 12,258,000 in October. An increase of 170,000. The good news is that non farm payrolls increased by +171,000.

Bear in mind that these numbers are misleading because Lockheed announced layoffs of 123,000, but was asked by the Obama Administration to delay the layoffs until after the election. So, add 123,000 to the number of unemployed and deduct 123,000 from the NFP jobs created of 171,000. So, the actual increase in NFP jobs was only 48,000.

And the duration of unemployment 27 weeks and over rose to 40.6%.

The employment to population ratio rose in October to 58.8, but still remains at a level near the beginning of the “Reagan Recovery.”

Since “recovery summer” of 2010, 262,000 more people have gone on disability than have dropped off unemployment. And 5.4 million more people are on food stamps (SNAP).

Food stamps grew 75x faster than job creation.

The unemployment rate among blacks/African Americans rose to 14.30%. There will be no joy in the Black/African American community over this pitiful unemployment rate.

On the wage front, changes in hourly earnings rose 1.6% (Year over Year), far below the Bush years. In fact, the rate fell in 2009 and has remained in the doldrums since.

This is the WORST recovery from a financial crisis since 1882.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: contractors; cultureofcorruption; defensespending; election; jobs; layoffs; lockheed; lockheedmartin; manipulation; obama
Obama cooked the books for the election,
1 posted on 11/03/2012 9:47:37 AM PDT by whitedog57
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To: whitedog57
Bear in mind that these numbers are misleading because Lockheed announced layoffs of 123,000, but was asked by the Obama Administration to delay the layoffs until after the election.

I didn't hear about this.. D anyone have a source? I call BS otherwise.

2 posted on 11/03/2012 9:54:50 AM PDT by Paradox (I want Obama defeated. Period.)
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To: whitedog57
Obama cooked the books for the election

Sure, but it doesn't matter. Reagan added 400,000 a month with an unemployed rate below 6%. No matter what anyone tries to tell you, 8% and 150,000 jobs added per month is not "normal." Real people are living the 0bama's regime disaster.

5.56mm

3 posted on 11/03/2012 9:55:29 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: whitedog57

Is this correct that the net increase in employment during the Obama presidency is something like 176,000? But wait. With this new revelation it would be less than 176,000.


4 posted on 11/03/2012 9:56:49 AM PDT by Jukeman (God help us for we are deep in trouble.)
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To: Paradox

I think the 123,000 number is false. That is the total number of Lockheed employees. It could be that they would need to send out a notice to every employee, but the layoff number would be much lower.


5 posted on 11/03/2012 9:57:53 AM PDT by MtnClimber (I did not vote for Zer0. Someone else did that.)
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To: whitedog57

You are half-right, but in principle I agree, Obama is a scumbag.

Lockheed was asked NOT to send possible layoff notices to all 123,000 employees by Obama in early october because those notices would have gone out just a few days before the election. You are required to give 60 days notice.

In return for not doing so, Obama offered to “pay all severance costs”, or attorney fees if they actually do have sequestration (which Obama said in a debate would NOT happen, next day to Des Moines Register, he said it would...sigh) and people sue Lockheed for not giving proper 60 day notice.

So, he said the taxpayers in essence would pick up the attorney fees in order for Lockheed not to freak people out about layoffs just before the election. But he said it isnt politically motivated! Are you kidding me? What a scumbag.

You are only half-right because no way would all 123,000 jobs been lost, so the net jobs report would not have gone down by 123,000, but that jobs report is B.S. anyway, as it seasonally adjusted.... by 1 million jobs in october! Ridiculous. The numbers means jack. This whole presidency and its “transparency” is a crock. I am amazed the American people do not see that.


6 posted on 11/03/2012 10:08:53 AM PDT by berkeleyman81
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To: MtnClimber
It could be that they would need to send out a notice to every employee, but the layoff number would be much lower.

These folks are getting canned because of the military cut backs. In Elmira, NY, a helicopter factory is shutting down. My sis says about 500 (? her guess) employees. According to her, it's a small town. Remember this is just ONE small company associated with the military cut backs.

7 posted on 11/03/2012 10:09:20 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: whitedog57
Are you really surprised? I heard this was coming for the past few months now. And it's not just Lockheed Martin, it's many other government contractors as well. I heard the number can reach over 500,000.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

8 posted on 11/03/2012 10:09:36 AM PDT by ducttape45
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To: whitedog57

How many times is this foolishness going to be put out there. Lockheed Martin only has 123,000 employees total. They are not got to layoff 100% of their work force. Not today, not tomorrow, not ever.

123,000 employees could in theory be notified of layoffs that potentially could effect them. That notification will generally tell them how many, type of employee, and sectors that are targeted for layoff. However, it’s not likely that all 123,000 would be notified if the layoffs are only targeted for a particular sector. In that case, only those employees in the targeted sector that could be effected would be notified.


9 posted on 11/03/2012 10:18:57 AM PDT by TBBT
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To: berkeleyman81

That makes it even worse. This should be a massive scandal. Between Libya and this, alone, Obama should be ousted on his ear. Can you imagine if Bush had done this, it would the lead story on every news outlet, blaring headlines in every newspaper! Unbelievable!


10 posted on 11/03/2012 10:25:04 AM PDT by Proudcongal
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To: Paradox

You are right to call BS. This is poor analysis.

Lockheed is required to issue notices by law 90 days before a layoff event when the layoff is large numbers. Lockheed, when this matter was discussed, was anticipating the Sequester in January. 90 days would be 1 October, but the people would not leave their jobs until January. They would still be employed during the survey week of 12 October.

So this is poor analysis.


11 posted on 11/03/2012 10:30:13 AM PDT by Owen
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To: whitedog57

Lockheed Martin employs about 123,000 people worldwide.


12 posted on 11/03/2012 10:31:21 AM PDT by scramjet (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous.)
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To: Proudcongal

It’s common knowledge, it hasn’t been buried. The mainstream media simply won’t run with it. It makes Obama look bad. Can’t have that.

If he is elected again (and I think it is at best 50/50 quite frankly, not 83% like Silver’s model predicts), this economy will quickly adjust in tone - unemployment will skyrocket based on the anti-business atmosphere that will continue to ensue.

If Romney is elected, you can bet that even before he is sworn in the economy will pick up, solely on the prediction that he will be robustly more pro-business.


13 posted on 11/03/2012 10:33:06 AM PDT by berkeleyman81
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To: whitedog57
You better recheck your figures. The total employees of Lockheed Martin, as of December 31, 2011, were 123,000. They are not going out of business. Someone has garbled the facts here.

William Flax

14 posted on 11/03/2012 10:43:44 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: concerned about politics

I think the total number of defense contractor layoffs could be huge. There will be a big ripple effect through suppliers and through other businesses in the community.


15 posted on 11/03/2012 10:46:46 AM PDT by MtnClimber (I did not vote for Zer0. Someone else did that.)
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To: whitedog57

Bad title. It should have read “Lockheed and other defense contractors” Lockheed only employs 123k, My bad. Not enough coffee.


16 posted on 11/03/2012 11:26:29 AM PDT by whitedog57
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To: Paradox

It’s true but I believe the notices are required well ahead of the actual layoffs, so those future job losses wouldn’t show up in October employment figures.


17 posted on 11/03/2012 12:03:44 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: whitedog57

How can we lose 360k every week to U/E while only 170K actually find employment in a month and then the Labor Board drops the U/E rate as a result .

MAGIC ,,,,, it’s magic I say . . .


18 posted on 11/03/2012 12:21:07 PM PDT by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism is the equal distribution of misery :-)
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