Skip to comments.GOP Voter Apathy Cost Romney: Would have won with McCain's vote total
Posted on 11/07/2012 7:46:24 AM PST by jilliane
4. With overall voter turnout down, shockingly Romney got 2 million less votes than McCain! If Romney got as many votes as McCain, 59.6 million, he could have won.
The story of this election is voter turnout!
Precisely what we feared when Romney was the nominee, they stayed home in droves.
I’m sorry....our candidate could have been Mickey Mouse, and any GOP voter who would not have shown up to vote for him over Obama either does not care about the country or needs to have their head examined.
Romney lost Florida by 25,000 votes.
Liberal Republican vs Liberal Democrat = Democrat winning. Everytime.
We peaked. Face it, we are becoming the minority.
there are a lot more votes to be counted, so need to wait until all of those are counted, but yeah, GOP turnout was down. I believe the evangelicals stayed home by about 7% according to something I heard, probably due to mormonism.
“What happened to the GOP turnout?”
I guess that “Massachusetts Moderate” thing didn’t sell.
“I believe the evangelicals stayed home by about 7% according to something I heard, probably due to mormonism.”
Yeah. That is why Obama carried the Bible Belt so handily.
Free shit trumps Liberty every time.
I got so sick of hearing people jump on us, we were never the probelm, we voted for the creep, but the rest of the country that doesn't live and die politics were sickened by him. Rove and his co-horts need to be run out of town on a rail and we all need to stop watching FOXNews.
As per a June 21st UPI poll, ten percent of Republicans indicated they would not vote for a Mormon. Romney only lost by 1% of the vote. Do the math.
So who stayed home?
Let's look at this rationally. The Democrats went down 10 mil. They do that again, the Republican need only achieve what McCain achieved and they have a landslide on their hands!
I'd suggest Sarah Palin might turn cartwheels.
Sadly, it looks like a lot of Republicans are now sitting home with Obama as their prez for the next four years, but at least their “spotless” voting record is intact. Better to sit home than vote for a less-than-perfect candidate doncha know. They sure showed us. They taught us a lesson, didn’t they. Yeah, well get ready, they’re going to be taught a lesson as well.
All day long, I heard (and saw personally once) about the massive turnout in Ohio’s suburbs.
It doesn’t make sense.
I wonder if my vote was even counted?
Can’t wait until Iran rolls out that first nuke, America’s credit rating hits C-, and the first EBT cards start to show a zero balance.
She should have run then. It is her fault that she did not run for President not anyone else’s.
That’s what happens when you have 2 candidates that lots of people do not want to be president.
For all of you who stayed at home, for whatever reason, are you happy with the result? Do you think McCain was a better candidate than Romney? Was McCain more “principled”? Did he have a better resume? Did you stay home because Romney wasn’t “conservative” enough? Do you think Romney is “less Conservative” than McCain? Did you stay home because Gov. Romney is a Mormon? Whatever the reason, WE ALL HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT! Simply, you turned down an opportunity to vote for a good man, with principles and a solid grasp of the economy. A “leader” with the working knowledge of how to delegate authority. Was Gov. Romney my first choice? Far from it, but for those who stayed home.....YOU BLEW IT! THE CHOICE WAS CLEAR! IT MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN THE CHOICE YOU WANTED TO MAKE, BUT BY NOT PARTICIPATING. YOU LET THE COUNTRY DOWN.
>>I wonder if my vote was even counted?
Yes, and then it was edited.
State - McCain '08 - Obama '12
NH - 317k - 355K
WI - 1,262K - 1,600K
FL - 4,046K - 4,129K
PA - 2,656K - 2,894K
Yes, some he may have picked up: IA, Ohio probably others.
This is not a complete list, but illistrates the point. No way Romney can win, if he does not take Florida.
BTW: Ohio is 2,674K vs. 2,672K, that is a .07% difference.
Long time experienced political operators, common joe voters, all claiming that that the turnout was the biggest they had ever seen and yet the numbers were down.
WERE THEY ALL JUST IMAGINING THAT?
Something just does not smell right!!!
Not quite, there are still millions of uncounted votes (mail ballots) in CA, WA and OR, also provisionals in other states.
At the end, it will be Obama 62.5 mil, Romney 59.5 mil or close to that. Still, this is under McCain’s 60 million votes, or W’s 62 mil in 2004.
Demographically (starting with W’s numbers), there were 66-67 million GOP votes available for Romney. He did not get the base to the polls, and he should be judged as the weakest GOP candidate in recent memory (weaker than McCain, who actually performed admirably in hopeless conditions).
Will head doctors be covered under obamacare?
Don’t blame me, I voted for Romney. But that doesn’t change the fact that he was a poor candidate, like McLame.
When I talk to Democrats, the majority are just like us, but they identify with Democrats because the republican’s have been painted as anti anti anti anti and not for anything.
Democrats offer free stuff, till this country hits the wall, we are on a course to watch this continue.
Romney did what he needed to do. The GOP party is organized by a bunch of old country club farts planning elections over martinis. Been the problem with the GOP for years. They fight the Republican base and are inept at running campaigns.
See if the GOP House gets a spine....NOT.
All GOP convictions go out the door the day after the election. They will move left or sit on their hands in effort to hang onto their seats and declining power base.
Maybe. I saw it as follows:
Socialist RINO versus Communist Democrat = Continued expansion of the Federal Welfare Entitlement Plantation.
IOW, whoever won, we would still be working for “The Man” in the “Big (White) House” at 1600 Plantation Avenue.
And Virginia by 100K.
So much for Scott Rasmussen's "data" that showed a 5.8% party ID advantage for the GOP.
This cycle, pundits were full of more sh*t than a Christmas goose.
>> Long time experienced political operators, common joe voters, all claiming that that the turnout was the biggest they had ever seen and yet the numbers were down. WERE THEY ALL JUST IMAGINING THAT?
Yes, there were imagining that. People see what they want to see, especially the political operators, who are paid to spin and pretend. The Dems saw the great signs in 2004, the GOP was spinning in 2012.
Perhaps Kerry-Romney can run a join loser ticket in 2016? But who is on the top of the ticket, and who is on the bottom?
Sorry to say this, but Republicans who did not show up to vote have to shoulder some of the blame of Obama getting re-elected.
Sitting around like bullheaded fools with a “I’ll show them” attitude and not voting for Romney. As a result, due to less turnout, their non vote was a default vote for obama. Sorry, but it really does come down to the math. Which is why they do the counts.
Just as with them not showing up for McCain, the only point they proved is they were too foolish to have even the slightest bit of foresight and see how bad obama hurts this nation.
Sorry, but I love my country too much. Romney was the only option to protect my nation from obama in the general election.
Also, all the tea party guys we got into the House in 2010. They have not been the conservatives they claimed to be (mainly by sticking Tea Party on a sign and having folks follow them like blind sheep). But they are still better than the alternative. So not voting for someone who may not be a tea party person, when the other option is obama, shows an inability to see the big picture.
People can flame me all they want, but last night proves me right. At some point people need to use some common sense.
GOP dropped the ball. Need to invest in ground game. Early voting has radically changed elections in America.
We are running TV blast the masses campaigns and we need to laser focus on our hip pocket voters.
Those margins were all doable. RNC dropped the ball.
“Yeah. That is why Obama carried the Bible Belt so handily.”
I would beg to differ - he barely won NC, lost VA,(home of Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell) and Ohio, which has a huge evangelical population in southern part of the state. I am an evangelical, and I had argued with many here in Ohio that a mormon would be better than the alternative, but many said there was “no difference.” I had hoped when Billy Graham gave his blessing that we would all turnout, but I don’t think we did.
I don’t get Florida at all. Not at all.
The margin of victory in VA is a shock too.
I wonder how many disillusioned Republicans voted Libertarian, Constitution or something else.
My wife and I were both unhappy (to put it mildly) with Romney. We finally voted for Romney after listening to Obama and his minions. I suspect others didn’t and just stayed home. The political fabric is irreparably torn and the progressives hold both parties. In the short term, there is no hope.
Hate of Obama prompted us to vote for Romney.
GOP-e and you guys would have trashed her to the point of distraction if she'd run this year.
Now that your approach to running against Democrats is totally discredited, she has an open highway ahead of her.
Here is my theory.
After watching the Obamanation on the boob tube for a couple of years, watching giant spending measures, trillions added to the debt, passage of Obamacare, the downgrade of the USA, class warfare, the administration telling one lie after another with a straight face and no one calling them out, nothing but praise for the magic negro...
Many conservatives started tuning out. They started turning off their television sets and started taking their kids to the zoo, playing fetch with the dog, watching old movies, reading classic works of literature, camping, ANYTHING but watching the vomit-inducing scenes played out nightly before them on all things politic.
Those became much better alternatives than having to sadly sit and watch their country fade away or loudly curse at the talking heads.
They never tuned back in. Even when the presidential election rolled around, they paid no notice. Election day came and once civic-minded conservatives just shrugged and whistled a happy little tune as they went to work and thought about their upcoming fishing trip at the lake.
My goodness. Stop worshiping her!
SHE DID NOT RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Look, Romney was not my first choice.. but our best guys like Rubio did not even enter the race..
folks, America has changed. someone said it above, we are the minority. that much is clear.
How does a leader get elected, stating “vote for me and I’ll give you less stuff”... with so many adult children in this country, that is just not going to happen.
Drive through any major city, or go to any ballgame, and take a look at the people of this country. They are all deeply effected by the culture of give me give me.. the g*d damn backwards baseball caps, hoops in their ears and noses and tattoos. And these are 35 + year olds, an age that used to be considered adult when I was a teen.
It’s arrived folks. I used to be afraid for this country, but no more, it’s too late for that.
Geez people the GOP got over 55 million votes, there just wasn’t enough of us and if you been paying attention you know the demographics of the country has been changing, more hispanic voters, more women voters and the same old liberal commie voters. Where were all these big mouthed independent voters that alway badmouth the GOP? They voted for Obama again. When Obama finnally has amnesty then we have to deal with all the illegals with their socialist educations leanings, women will vote democrat and most of them vote based on looks and charm not the issues. And I don’t even have to explain about blacks, that is obvious.
Stop badmouthing the GOP and accept the fact that there are not enough conservatives to elect the kind of person we want to see in office.
Hispanics will almost alway vote Democrat, There are fewer white males
What happened to the GOP turnout?
We peaked. Face it, we are becoming the minority.
And we can’t just “crap out more kids” and hope for the best because they will be indoctrinated...
People may think I am crazy but the only hope for conservatism and libertarian ideals is to be come extreme pro-life, and pro-science at the same time. What do i mean by this, well we need to embrace cloning, but with the caveat that it comes with “neural pattern copying” technology. That is the ONLY way to effectively bypass the indoctrination system that has been setup.
We clone ourselves and declare that clones have the same rights as a natural born while the clones are programmed using the neural patterns of rock ribbed small government conservative people....
Of course this tech would be avail for use by the other side....
We are doomed...
We need to start funding private moonbases, maybe Gingrich was right....
This planet is done, stick a fork in it, or a rock travelling at 25,000mph from the moon courtesy of the harsh mistress.
I could have sworn they were in line with me at the polling place yesterday. Normally I can vote in five minutes and be out; yesterday the place was mobbed, and I had to wait in line for an hour and a half. Talk radio was full of accounts of historic turnout in red areas.
I'm not getting it. At all.
Some precincts were combined ~ some were divided to fit those lines just so. Not at all surprising to hear about the enlarged precincts getting more folks ~
My precinct shows a 50% voter increase over 2008. However, it's the same as it was during the 1990s during an earlier districting scheme that put my neighborhood in the evil Rep Moran's district. We were just put back into that district, so we end up with about the same number we had back then.
The precincts with fewer voters than last time aren't news ~ but they exist!
GOP didn’t capitalize on 10 million less votes for O.
This is huge mystery to me if true. I didn’t like Myth in 08 and I didn’t like him in the primaries. But I voted for him. Sitting on the sidelines while the other team is scoring b/c a candidate fails some purity test is just crazy.
We are speaking of the future anyway, and I don't see you on the list of party stalwarts anyway.
I know what you mean. I know what I saw with my own eyes and it doesn’t add up. I saw far fewer signs but R/R outnumbered the imposter at lease 3/1. I saw lines at my rural polling place that I had never seen before. When I visited Chicago a week before the election, I did not see one Obama sign or bumper sticker. Four years ago the same places were full of them. I saw polling places with Obama murals and Black Panthers outside of polling places. I heard of GOP poll watchers, 70 of them, being thrown out of Philly polling places. I heard of a an Ohio election judge being unseated because he was allowing unregistered people to vote. This election was stolen and lies prevail. Pray for our country.
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