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Palin4President 2016
Palin4President 2016 ^ | November 8, 2012 | M. Joseph Shepard

Posted on 11/08/2012 1:25:42 PM PST by Art in Idaho

A lot of Buzz already about Sarah running in 2016. From Palin4President comes a wealth of information. Some snippets:

"Romney lost because he simply couldn't turn out the vote. McCain/Palin turned out 6.2 Million more voters than Romney/Ryan did and that is all it would have taken to beat Obama this time around if you look at the numbers. Perhaps Romney should put some thought into what is was that McCain had that helped produce an extra 6.2 million votes, that helped create the tidal wave of the 2010 mid-term victories... here's a hint... she wears lipstick."

"A team of Palin and Martinez or Rubio or even Cruz would have tremendous possibilities in gaining the votes of women and Hispanics."

"But it is a very good day for Palin too, who will now, as she said clearly last month, challenge the very existence of the Republican Party and the Eastern establishment as she has been doing from the first."

"GOP Doomed Forever By Demographics Is Rubbish; 3 Key States Lost By Under 2%.There is a clear Path to a 2016 Win."

(Excerpt) Read more at palin4president2016.blogspot.co.nz ...


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To: Reagan Disciple

Believe what you will. If someone better comes along, they will have my vote. Until then, she’s the best there is at forwarding what conservatives real ones, believe.


151 posted on 11/08/2012 4:47:56 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Lakeshark

You’re a Palin-bot and that’s fine. You are painting me out as a detractor of her as a conservative and I certainly am not.

If you think two years as governor, quitting and then being party to a failed ticket gives her all of the real world experience she needs to be president of the most powerful country in the world, then you should push for her.

All I’m saying is four plus years later, with her doing nothing but reality TV and Fox commentary, she’s past her prime.

We need someone with a track record of achievement, more than two years worth and more than just syaing what we want to hear.


152 posted on 11/08/2012 4:50:34 PM PST by Reagan Disciple (Peace through Strength)
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To: Reagan Disciple
We have just crossed the Rubicon where the takers are out numbering the makers (or at least are more willing to vote to keep it that way).

We need a leader to drag the whole country back, she’s just not the one. In fact, I’m not sure we have one right now.

We have indeed crossed the Rubicon. It seems that only a total collapse can fix things at this point. The elites of both parties in D.C. will never willingly give up power.

153 posted on 11/08/2012 4:51:02 PM PST by sand88
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To: Cincinna

Thank you very much, dearest Cincinna.

God bless you and God bless Sarah Palin!


154 posted on 11/08/2012 4:52:21 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Reagan Disciple

She is terrific at showing love of country, pride in the military, optimism that is sorely lacking. Patriotic to a fault and not ashamed to show it. That is the part of her that reminds people of President Reagan, that is what we are lacking in other candidates. Most candidates are afraid to be proud or patriotic.

I agree that she is not qualified to be President in many ways but I think she should be used to her strengths. I think the G.O.P. is inept at getting out the vote and that may be a good role for her, along with what she does now to show support. I do not think she should be hidden away- I love how she angers the left.


155 posted on 11/08/2012 4:56:03 PM PST by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: Art in Idaho






THERE!! Do you see it? Mention her name and the RINO's and trolls in here go CRAZY!! Why? Because they fear what she stands for. Plain, unadulterated fear of raw conservatism.

It should be obvious to anyone watching events closely. The vicious and rabid attacks, the Soros funding specifically against her, the massive media attention. Why? They fear conservatism.

Is anyone watching? It's on display at a micro level right here in this thread!!






156 posted on 11/08/2012 4:56:46 PM PST by Scooter100 ("Now that the fog has lifted, I still can't find my pipe". --- S. Holmes)
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To: sand88
I'm not sure how my opposition to Palin became an attack on the founding principles but I'll oblige.

We live in a much different time than what was seen back in the early 1800s and I would argue that at this moment, we in fact do have a common person in office and we are paying dearly for it.

The founding fathers simply wanted a system where the people would decide who would represent them, there is no stipulation that experience and intelligence need not be required.

I don't want a god, I want someone who can pull us back from the abyss. I don't believe Palin is that person.

My opinion only, which seems to make me a leaper on a site tagged “free” republic.

157 posted on 11/08/2012 4:57:15 PM PST by Reagan Disciple (Peace through Strength)
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To: Tammy8

I totally agree. I like her for what she can do - get out the message and promote the cause.

I too agree she should be put on the fore front, just not in the oval office.


158 posted on 11/08/2012 5:01:02 PM PST by Reagan Disciple (Peace through Strength)
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To: Art in Idaho
So all in!
159 posted on 11/08/2012 5:01:17 PM PST by Manic_Episode (Some days...it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps....)
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To: Cicero; Artcore

God willing BTTT

GO SARAH!


160 posted on 11/08/2012 5:01:27 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: rabidralph

Woo-Hoo!

GO SARAH!


161 posted on 11/08/2012 5:02:18 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Norm Lenhart

That is your belief system and I respect it.


162 posted on 11/08/2012 5:02:38 PM PST by Reagan Disciple (Peace through Strength)
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To: RedMDer

She’s WAY ahead!

FReepers for Sarah ROCK!!!


163 posted on 11/08/2012 5:03:43 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: PA Engineer


You betcha!

Thank you, dearest PA Engineer!

164 posted on 11/08/2012 5:05:15 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Reagan Disciple
I would argue that at this moment, we in fact do have a common person in office and we are paying dearly for it.

We DO NOT have a common man as President. We have a hard-core Marxist who is H*ll bent on fundamentally changing our Republic into a Socialist sewer. Obama hates Ameerica, he hates white people and he has a seething hatred for the United States Constitution.

Any common man or woman who cherishes our beloved Constitution would most likely make a fine President.

165 posted on 11/08/2012 5:06:09 PM PST by sand88
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To: onyx

At this point, I don’t give a flying F*** about the Repuke party. I held my nose and voted for Romney...never again. If Sarah wants to run as a third party, or repuke party candidate, she has my support. I am BEYOND fed up with the GOP-E. Screw them all.


166 posted on 11/08/2012 5:08:24 PM PST by Mama Shawna
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To: ifinnegan

And where did I argue that Romney was a winning candidate?


167 posted on 11/08/2012 5:10:03 PM PST by WillVoteForFood
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To: Lakeshark

Ooooh, you were about to get the wrath!!!


168 posted on 11/08/2012 5:11:19 PM PST by rintense
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To: sand88

OK - I’ll refine that statement to agree with your points. I was coming from the standpoint of one with no experience and no intelligence.

Of course BO is no “common” person.


169 posted on 11/08/2012 5:11:27 PM PST by Reagan Disciple (Peace through Strength)
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To: Scooter100






THERE!! Do you see it? Pay attention. Mention her name and the Washington insiders and the national and international NWO elites...go absolutely BERZERK!!

Why? Because they fear what she stands for. Plain, unadulterated fear of raw conservatism, embodied in a NON-INSIDER, a NON-ELITE, a THREAT to the establishment's world power structure.








170 posted on 11/08/2012 5:13:03 PM PST by Scooter100 ("Now that the fog has lifted, I still can't find my pipe". --- S. Holmes)
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To: Reagan Disciple
Now why would I think you were a detractor when you use the word Palin-bot.....

You might want to check the mirror.

Look, this is all academic and honestly not a worthy discussion until she runs, all I was pointing out is your disdain for her is wrong, not born by her record of consistent achievement, and straight from the pit of democrat hell.........

171 posted on 11/08/2012 5:13:03 PM PST by Lakeshark (!)
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To: sand88

The main thing the right has to understand is that they are locked in a cycle of category error. They consistently misidentify/interpret a given issue and set about solving the wrong problem.
They then give us the Doles, Romneys et all as a solution.

With Palin, most of the energy spent by those in power on the right is on stopping the words she says from resonating with the public by minimizing her as some unable ‘good byt not good enough’ figure. Note that years of PDS never mentions the concepts and ideas she discusses, but the shrill voice, the folksy delivery and the rest of the memes they cook up.

Anything to avoid allowing her to be seen as credible. \\

Because if she were seen as a credible person, the GOP would have to explain to their supporters why A: she was trashed as she was by the party and B: Why they did not run with the ideas she brought forth.

Lets face it. Palin, love her as I do, is saying nothing that many of us don’t already believe. In fact, most love her as a politician BECAUSE she articulates EXAXTLY what we believe.

And there is nothing more dangerous to the GOP and it’s supporters than that. Anyone wishing to prove the above wrong is encouraged to do so.


172 posted on 11/08/2012 5:15:26 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Lakeshark

I have no disdain for her at all. I just believe she is not ready to be president.

That in no way means I want to see her muted or forgotten.

I enjoy listening to her analysis and think she is a great promoter of the conservative cause.


173 posted on 11/08/2012 5:15:53 PM PST by Reagan Disciple (Peace through Strength)
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To: Reagan Disciple

You want a candidate who knows there way around Washington, someone who understands the way things work.

I don’t.

I want an outsider that can think beyond the “way things have always been done”. We have serious problems that require serious action and the “old ways” we already know won’t do it. How many times do people say they want someone in office who is one of us?

Sarah Palin is that person. I encourage you to read her books, speeches and anything else you can get your hands on. She is the real deal.


174 posted on 11/08/2012 5:22:33 PM PST by upsdriver
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To: Reagan Disciple

Good, we’ll leave the discussion of her readiness if she ever runs. It’s simply not important at this point.


175 posted on 11/08/2012 5:23:35 PM PST by Lakeshark (!)
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To: rintense
Hey, I showered, and feel much better.......why do I feel slightly guilty?

I thought you'd appreciate a little ribbing, or maybe a bit of laughter...........

176 posted on 11/08/2012 5:28:56 PM PST by Lakeshark (!)
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To: ifinnegan
She had only 2 years as Governor...

But she served another 20 years in elective and appointed offices before that. Sarah has spent close to half her life in public service.

Let us also not forget that she spent a lot of years signing the front side of paychecks as a business owner too.

She's been around the block a time or two.

177 posted on 11/08/2012 5:34:43 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: upsdriver
I don't believe I said that. I want someone with experience and knowledge of the current global landscape. That's all.

I read Mark Levin's book as well and listen to him every night and agree with everything he says but even he would admit he's not prepared to sit in the oval office.

Palin is great for the cause and may write and say the things we want to hear, but that doesn't translate into being able to hold the office.

I like her. It's being misconstrued here that because I don't think she should run for president that I'm against her totally.

I want her out there promoting the cause. That's her best strength.

178 posted on 11/08/2012 5:51:18 PM PST by Reagan Disciple (Peace through Strength)
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To: Scooter100
Because they fear what she stands for. Plain, unadulterated fear of raw conservatism.

They know that if people were taught conservative principles and realized for the survival of the country there is no other choice, they will become conservatives in droves. That's why they go full Alinsky with anything or anyone who is a true conservative.

179 posted on 11/08/2012 5:54:47 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: onyx

The poll is still up. I just voted for Governor Palin and here are the current results:

Governor Romney 7.99% (477 votes)

Speaker Boehner 13.32% (795 votes)

Senator Marco Rubio 16.94% (1,011 votes)

Congressman Paul Ryan 8.24% (492 votes)

Governor Chris Christie 3.69% (220 votes)

Governor Sarah Palin 39.9% (2,381 votes)

Speaker Newt Gingrich 3.1% (185 votes)

Someone else 6.82% (407 votes)

Total Votes: 5,968

Yes, it’s a small sampling, but I think it’s indicative of the fact that Sarah Palin still ranks extremely high in conservative voters’ minds, even though four years have passed since she last ran for office (not to mention all of the attacks she’s weathered in that time).


180 posted on 11/08/2012 5:55:44 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: MortMan
Palin could run, but she needs to rebuild her image...

With whom? Those who wouldn't vote for a conservative of the Founding Fathers' ilk, if you put a gun to their heads?

Sarah Palin doesn't need to 'rebuild' her image to suit those Americans who truly love their country, and who are willing to stand and fight for it.

And don't tell me that we solid American patriots are the 'new minority'. That's a load of bull that's being spouted to cover up the fact that Romney couldn't get enough conservatives to vote for him, even in the most important election of our lifetimes.

Look at the results of Greta's poll. 40% of the respondents chose Palin as the new de facto leader of the Republican party. That result is consistent with every poll of its type conducted before the 2012 campaign.

Whether she'll run in 2016 is something that no one knows at this point, but after the disaster we just endured, and the one we're sure to endure over the next four years, it's a safe bet that she will.

181 posted on 11/08/2012 6:07:10 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Dunno if I got another 4 years in me for this Windy. The stupid of the modern American burns ;)

You do, and you will, if she answers the call to duty, voter stupidity notwithstanding :-)

182 posted on 11/08/2012 6:09:07 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Yep. She’s weathered more than anyone and she’s still the favorite.

Fearless Leader and she’s the one we want.


183 posted on 11/08/2012 6:11:17 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Reagan Disciple
Two years as a governor and a couple of months as a failed VP candidate isn't the most inspiring resume.

You obviously have never read her resume. It's scary impressive.

184 posted on 11/08/2012 6:11:23 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Art in Idaho

She’s at the top of my list!!

She should have been the nominee this year.


185 posted on 11/08/2012 6:11:48 PM PST by dalereed
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To: Windflier

I just think about having to repeat ourselves and the thousands of posts we made blowing all the lib meme BS out of the water... and cringe.

It’s all going to be the same thing. We see it already on this thread. Same baseless ‘points.’ Same unsupported ‘facts’. And of course, the refusal to admit one has been fooled into buying the MSM crap.

The stupid. It burns. No, she’s not Reagan. But the idea she’s the Hyuck! Gorsh! Snowbilly most think is much further from the truth.


186 posted on 11/08/2012 6:15:45 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Bidimus1

As was yours It is tedious to keep repeating history those those who have an agenda. You would not listen to any counter or logic.

To prove my point, what is the best argument you have heard from those who disagree with you about her reasons for resigning as Governor?


187 posted on 11/08/2012 6:16:14 PM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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To: sand88
Nothing will happen soon. If we see Sarah out campaigning for candidates in 2014, then you can be certain that she will also be testing the waters.

If she senses great support, she may move to jump in after the 2014 elections.

Agreed, but after Terrible Tuesday, I'll bet Sarah's praying on that question like never before.

She had more grass roots support than any other potential candidate in the run-up to the 2012 primary, and that support will still be there, should she decide (this time) to honestly go for it. And she knows it, too.

188 posted on 11/08/2012 6:18:10 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: US Navy Vet

Hopefully you can clean up your language. You’re education level is beyond the 2nd grade.


189 posted on 11/08/2012 6:18:57 PM PST by tillacum
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To: Norm Lenhart
I just think about having to repeat ourselves and the thousands of posts we made blowing all the lib meme BS out of the water... and cringe.

It’s all going to be the same thing. We see it already on this thread. Same baseless ‘points.’ Same unsupported ‘facts’. And of course, the refusal to admit one has been fooled into buying the MSM crap.

Can't disagree with any of that, but I'll say this. It was all so tedious before, because one of our team mates was missing - namely Sarah. Had she run, we would have had far less to defend, because she herself would have been out there making the best case for her candidacy.

Should she now see that duty compels her more than ever to step forth and walk the path of her destiny, then our job will be a whole lot easier than before. We'll see. I hope to God she makes the correct choice this time.

190 posted on 11/08/2012 6:33:18 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Hope so too. But considering all the ‘conservatives’ that let the MSM lead them by the nose, I will not blame her is she does not.


191 posted on 11/08/2012 6:37:56 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Art in Idaho

Unfortunately we have a lot of FReepers with the same democrat ideas. If she don’t agree with me she’s trash. If she don’t hunker down to what I say she’s trash. Wake up and listen to what’s happening to this country...we’re going to be in deeper trouble in 2 years than we are now, we’ll have MORE people on the dole than in 2003, which was a 2.4 unemployment statistic. It’s going to get worse..


192 posted on 11/08/2012 6:39:08 PM PST by tillacum
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To: US_MilitaryRules

Sarah is a female with ideas to help this country, but we have small minded individuals who think she should walk 5 paces behind a man. She was a governor in Alaska. She was given security brief, that the south 48 governors don’t receive. She turned Alaska around from the crooked democrats with hands in the oil company pockets. That’s more than I’ve seen in the south 48, where 98% of the governors have their hands out to someone.


193 posted on 11/08/2012 6:45:26 PM PST by tillacum
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To: Art in Idaho

NO!

Palin is fine and all, but she has a libertarian pro-life view. If you want to win, you need the evangelicals. you had better toe the constitutional Pro-life line, or lose yet again.

Start with that. then enumerate the principles of ALL the conservative factions, and pick someone who can, BY HIS RECORD, uphold them all.


194 posted on 11/08/2012 6:48:49 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1
Palin is fine and all, but she has a libertarian pro-life view. If you want to win, you need the evangelicals. you had better toe the constitutional Pro-life line, or lose yet again.

What are talking about? May I remind you that Sarah Palin chose to give birth to a Down's Syndrome baby, rather than abort it - even though she and her husband knew their baby's condition beforehand?

That's called putting your money where your mouth is, and it's worth more than mere words out of any politician's mouth.

195 posted on 11/08/2012 6:58:20 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: onyx; US Navy Vet
>> Where is the “Not this Shit again” guy?

> You’re already here. :)

LOL!!! Made my night!!

196 posted on 11/08/2012 7:15:33 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Windflier
What are talking about? May I remind you that Sarah Palin chose to give birth to a Down's Syndrome baby, rather than abort it - even though she and her husband knew their baby's condition beforehand?

I didn't say she wasn't pro-life. I said she has a libertarian view of 'pro-life' - That being that Roe v Wade Should be overturned, and that the decision on abortion should rightfully reside in the states. While 'better than nothing', that incorrect view would split the Religious Right, wherein the correct prevailing view is that life is Constitutionally protected (and I agree with that wholeheartedly).

Give the Christians a reason to come out in full force and you will get your Chik-Fil-A election. Back up on LIFE and they will not come out in force.

That's called putting your money where your mouth is, and it's worth more than mere words out of any politician's mouth.

I agree. But her position is not politically viable.

197 posted on 11/08/2012 7:36:12 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: onyx

Thanks onyx.


198 posted on 11/08/2012 7:44:12 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Windflier

Palin needs to rebuild her image by bypassing the MSM, and becoming familiar and comfortable with Americans.

I don’t particularly care if you disagree - I am simply identifying an issue she will have to deal with if she wants to run.

I like Palin, and would vote for her in lass than a New York minute. But this is a political game, and she has to win according to political rules. The MSM built a false image of her. She, as a candidate, would be responsible for correcting that false image.

The lie has permeated the American psyche quickly. Can the truth, slower but surer of foot, catch up?


199 posted on 11/08/2012 8:00:21 PM PST by MortMan (I will be true to my principles.)
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To: roamer_1
I didn't say she wasn't pro-life. I said she has a libertarian view of 'pro-life' - That being that Roe v Wade Should be overturned, and that the decision on abortion should rightfully reside in the states.

So, in other words, she's not as perfect as Jesus, and that fact dooms her chances to ever be elected. Crickey.....here we go again.

Show me one other politician who's 'walked the walk' like she has, on the pro-life issue. You're splitting hairs about her position. The woman CHOSE to give birth to a Down's Syndrome baby, knowing the outcome of that pregnancy the whole time.

I'm sorry, but that's as real as real gets in my book. She's proven beyond all doubt that she values the sanctity of life.

200 posted on 11/08/2012 8:17:38 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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