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Speaker Boeher is done fighting Obamacare: It’s “the law of the land”
ABC News/The Right Scoop ^ | Nov. 8, 2012 | The Right Scoop

Posted on 11/08/2012 4:31:54 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

I really hope someone with more backbone challenges this feckless speaker:

ABC NEWS – Asked whether he will make another attempt to fully repeal the Affordable Care Act, Boehner said “the election changes that” and “Obamacare is the law of the land.”

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TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: boehner4democrats; boehner4dnc; boehner4obama; boehner4obamacare; boehnervsgop; boehnervsteaparty; fubo; fujb
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1 posted on 11/08/2012 4:32:00 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It would be nice if this drunken fool would DEFUND Obamacare.

I really hope that someone challenges him for House Speaker in January.


2 posted on 11/08/2012 4:34:41 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (November 6, 2012.....A day that will live in infamy!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Did anyone really expect Obamacare to be repealed?

Hello? Both parties want to hold on to Obamacare. It represents power and there is no way they will give it up.


3 posted on 11/08/2012 4:35:35 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The list of things America is screwed on is endless. Boehner is 1 million% correct there is absolutely nothing he can do about it.

Thank that coward John Roberts


4 posted on 11/08/2012 4:36:02 PM PST by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Many Americans are furious that Obamacare will require them to buy health insurance.

Most of these folks seem to hate the idea that Obama is forcing them to do something more than they hate the idea of shelling out money.

But for those who also care about the money, here are the details.

The good news is that, for most people, the “penalty tax” for those who choose not to buy health insurance will cost a lot less than health insurance.

As with everything tax-related, there’s no simple answer to “How much is the Obamacare penalty tax?” But here are some key points, from FactCheck.org:

The penalty/tax will be phased in from 2014 to 2016.
The minimum penalty/tax in 2016 will be $695 per person and up to 3-times that per family. After 2016, these amounts will increase at the rate of inflation.
The minimum penalty/tax per person will start at $95 in 2014 (and then increase through 2016)
No family will ever pay more than 3X the per-person penalty, regardless of how many people are in the family.
The $695 per-person penalty is only for those who make between $9,500 and ~$37,000 per year. If you make less than ~$9.500, you’re exempt. If you make more than ~$37,000, your penalty is calculated by the following formula...
The penalty is 2.5% of any household income above the level at which you are required to file a tax return. That level is currently $9,500 per person and $19,000 per couple. The penalty on any income above that is 2.5%. So the penalty can get expensive quickly if you make a lot of money.
However, the penalty can never be more than the cost of a “Bronze” heath insurance plan purchased through one of the state “exchanges” that will be created as part of Obamacare. The CBO estimates that these policies will cost $4,500-$5,000 per person and $12,000-$12,500 per family in 2016, with the costs rising thereafter.

So, basically, you’re looking at penalties of approximately the following at the following income levels:

Less than $9,500 income = $0
$9,500 - $37,000 income = $695
$50,000 income = $1,000
$75,000 income = $1,600
$100,000 income = $2,250
$125,000 income = $2,900
$150,000 income = $3,500
$175,000 income = $4,100
$200,000 income = $4,700
Over $200,000 = The cost of a “bronze” health-insurance plan

The IRS will collect the penalty-tax, a fact that will no doubt further enrage those who hate Obamacare.

But here’s some more good news for those folks:

The IRS will not have the power to charge you criminally or seize your assets if you refuse to pay. The IRS will only have the ability to sue you. And the most the IRS can collect from you if it wins the suit is 2X the amount you owe. So if you want to thumb your nose at the penalty-tax, the IRS won’t be able to do as much to you as they could if you refused to pay, say, income tax.

By the way, the following folks will be exempt from the penalty-tax:

Those who make less than $9,500
Employees whose employers only offer plans that cost more than 8% of the employee’s income
Those with “hardships”
Members of Indian tribes
Members of certain religions that don’t pay Social Security tax, such as Amish, Hutterites or Mennonites


5 posted on 11/08/2012 4:36:05 PM PST by Baynative
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Yup, John Boehner is getting hit hard in the Conservative Twitter World

I say: "Defund #ObamaCare OR repeal @johnboehner"

6 posted on 11/08/2012 4:36:17 PM PST by tsowellfan
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"The speaker also revealed that comprehensive, bipartisan immigration overhaul would be a top priority of his agenda during the 113th Congress."

The GOP is self destructing. Boehner will not hold the line and no one will challenge him for Speaker. There will be even less base turnout next time. The GOP will turn into the loyal opposition to preserve the fiction that there is a real struggle over issues.

7 posted on 11/08/2012 4:36:33 PM PST by Truth29
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Same thing Republicans did on gays in the military. Nothing is the “Law of the Land” if Democrats don’t agree with it. Republicans in Congress are wimps. They lose one or two battles, they give up. Replace them all.


8 posted on 11/08/2012 4:37:16 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
http://www.bizjournals.com/wichita/news/2012/11/08/brownback-says-he-wont-support.html

Please read the above link, and my post on topic which appears on another thread.

NO, with all due respect, that is NOT what Boehner said. There is room, WITHIN Obamacare, and within the Court system to slow, even halt parts of Obamacare.

What Boehner said is TRUE to a point, as we can REFUSE the State Mandates, under SCOTUS and we have other Court cases yet to be decided.

9 posted on 11/08/2012 4:37:34 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: Free ThinkerNY

He’s just following those freepers who want Obama to ‘own’ it. ha! Obama will still blame them anyway.


10 posted on 11/08/2012 4:37:50 PM PST by ari-freedom (Election Day should be after Thanksgiving, not right after Halloween)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Damn, Boehner, why not just get a checklist from zero and his monkey reid and pass whatever they want?

You can’t repeal it BUT YOU CAN REFUSE TO FUND IT!!!

[How come I can think of that and I am not a politician nor do I play one on tv.]


11 posted on 11/08/2012 4:38:11 PM PST by Adder (Holy Crap! Now what?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Let it happen. Let the Bush tax cuts expire, let hospitals and doctors close their doors, let the producers sell their companies rather than pay the fees, let the layoffs begin, let the people have to more money to buy government cars, let the elderly be rationed care, let the elderly die, let the indigent vote themselves funds from the public through.

The sooner, the better. Prepare, people.


12 posted on 11/08/2012 4:39:16 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The sad thing is: He’s right. It was upheld by the SCotUS. The liberals still control the senate and the white house. Boehner could spend all day every day introducing bills to repeal it and they won’t go anywhere. Even if they kept defunding it in the budgets those budgets won’t pass.


13 posted on 11/08/2012 4:39:28 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Williams
Thank that coward John Roberts

What happened to his decision being a super intelligent plot to win the election for the Republicans?

14 posted on 11/08/2012 4:39:33 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
It would be nice if this drunken fool would DEFUND Obamacare.

And how might he get that passed through the senate and signed by Obama?

15 posted on 11/08/2012 4:40:41 PM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I want that miserable swine OUT.

Now!


16 posted on 11/08/2012 4:41:07 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Baynative
I bet the IRS will find ways to motivate compliance beyond the legal limits of suit and 2X penalty obligation. Those who are in non compliance could find themselves under constant audit, demands for records, interviews with their neighbors and coworkers, etc. Those in business would have other issues about tax compliance permits, inspections, permits, etc.
17 posted on 11/08/2012 4:41:21 PM PST by Truth29
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To: Adder

“[How come I can think of that and I am not a politician nor do I play one on tv.]”

Because you don’t deal with the fact that if you don’t fund Obamacare, Obama won’t sign any money to go to your district.


18 posted on 11/08/2012 4:42:05 PM PST by ari-freedom (Election Day should be after Thanksgiving, not right after Halloween)
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To: Baynative
Many Americans are furious that Obamacare will require them to buy health insurance.

Many are.. but not nearly enough are. Tuesday proved that. We lost and we're effed. Plain and simple.

19 posted on 11/08/2012 4:42:17 PM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Boehner said “the election changes that” and “Obamacare is the law of the land.”

Dirty back stabbing worthless bastard.

20 posted on 11/08/2012 4:42:49 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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