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Obamacare vs. Jobs: The law discourages the hiring of full-time employees
The National Review ^ | November 8, 2012 | Jillian Kay Melchior

Posted on 11/11/2012 3:43:29 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Job seekers will soon have a harder time finding full-time work, thanks to Obamacare. As of 2014, the law will attempt to force employers to provide insurance — but in doing so, it will have the unintended effect of making part-time employees more desirable than full-timers.

That’s because if a business with more than 49 full-time employees fails to offer insurance coverage, it will be required to pay a fine. And the fine will apply starting not with the 50th employee, but with the 31st. At $2,000 per employee after the first 30, these fines add up fast. A business that surpasses the threshold by just one full-time employee will face $40,000 each year in penalties.

Businesses that can easily substitute part-time for full-time labor — in particular restaurants, hotels, and retailers — will have a strong incentive to do so. The Wall Street Journal reports that Carl’s Jr., Hardee’s, Red Lobster, and Olive Garden are already planning to hire part-timers instead of full-timers at some or all of their locations. Other employers will restrict their current full-time employees to 30 hours a week so that they will be considered part-time under the law. And, of course, some businesses will opt to stay smaller. France provides an instructive example: There, 50 employees is the magic threshold for whether labor regulations apply. And — no surprise — the country “has more than 2.4 times as many firms with 49 employees as with 50,” Jed Graham notes in Investor’s Business Daily...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: economy; obama; obamacare; obamacarejobs; obamacareunjob; underemployment
"Unexpected."
1 posted on 11/11/2012 3:43:40 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s gonna be a great 4 years.

New and exciting “Unexpected” consequences every day.

Fasten your seat belts boys, it’s going to be a bumpy ride.


2 posted on 11/11/2012 3:58:09 AM PST by Venturer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And why would a small business ever want to grow?


3 posted on 11/11/2012 4:00:34 AM PST by killermosquito (Buffalo, Detroit (and eventually France) is what you get when liberalism runs its course.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No Problem!

The regime can just change the law to include part-time employees.

What about Congress you say...well they didn’t need Congress to pass the law, they won’t need Congress to change the law, where ever and how ever the regime sees fit.

Deem it to be done, so let it be written, so let it be done.

That’s just how it is done, by all dictators, in all communist countries.


4 posted on 11/11/2012 4:00:34 AM PST by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If employers must hire 14 29-hour employees to do the work formerly done by 10 full timers, the unemployment rate will drop, even if hours worked stays the same.

Win-Win, Baby!


5 posted on 11/11/2012 4:05:13 AM PST by Haiku Guy
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To: Haiku Guy

Win-Win, Baby!

I wish you really were being sarcastic......but that’s exactly what is going on here.......they can’t deal with reality.....so now they try to redefine it.....


6 posted on 11/11/2012 4:06:55 AM PST by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

gainful employment is to the democratic party what narcotics anonymous is to a drug dealer.


7 posted on 11/11/2012 4:18:01 AM PST by RC one (Akin/Mourdock-2016)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The majority of those part-time employees are getting what they voted for, and I feel no sympathy for them at all. As for the rest, it’s a shame they have to suffer because of the greed of their peers.


8 posted on 11/11/2012 4:23:08 AM PST by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As if kids today didn’t have enough problems. Now they’ll have to have 2 part-time jobs to survive and pay the obamacare fines for not having health insurance.

Elections have consequences kids.


9 posted on 11/11/2012 4:27:14 AM PST by MulberryDraw (That which cannot be paid, won't be paid.)
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To: MulberryDraw

but they have big bird!


10 posted on 11/11/2012 4:31:46 AM PST by ari-freedom
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Unintended?? More dependent workers equals more Democrat voters.


11 posted on 11/11/2012 4:32:28 AM PST by Truth29
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“France provides an instructive example: There, 50 employees is the magic threshold for whether labor regulations apply. And — no surprise — the country “has more than 2.4 times as many firms with 49 employees as with 50,”

They think they are just so smart


12 posted on 11/11/2012 4:33:39 AM PST by ari-freedom
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To: Truth29

“Unintended?? More dependent workers equals more Democrat voters.”

OK but what will they do when the money runs out?


13 posted on 11/11/2012 4:34:51 AM PST by ari-freedom
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To: Haiku Guy
If employers must hire 14 29-hour employees to do the work formerly done by 10 full timers, the unemployment rate will drop, even if hours worked stays the same.

This is true, but I expect there's a baseline cost to a company to hire an employee, so they can't just replace all the full time workers with more part time workers for the same cost.

Also, having progressive income taxes means that more part time workers could end up reducing the total amount of income tax paid, further adding to the deficit.

14 posted on 11/11/2012 4:35:19 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I see a magic wand wave and poof...full time employment will now be 20 hours per week. Instant revenue


15 posted on 11/11/2012 4:52:48 AM PST by Artie (We are surrounded by MORONS)
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To: Venturer

Don’t worry, the Democrat machine will blame all of Obama’s, and more specifically, Democrats failures on House Republicans. In fact, it is already happening.


16 posted on 11/11/2012 5:05:08 AM PST by corlorde (forWARD of the state)
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To: ari-freedom
“OK but what will they do when the money runs out?”

For committed socialists, there is always another big government solution whenever the next crisis arrives. Keep hope alive, etc. Plus, ruling in hell is better than serving in heaven. An elite party directing huddled masses is a dream state for the Marxist.

17 posted on 11/11/2012 5:09:32 AM PST by Truth29
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To: killermosquito

Obamacare is going to kill the economy like the wrecking ball it was meant to be. 0 knows this. He is going to destroy this nation until the Obamabots wake up and realize this is intentional. Then they are going to turn oh him and we are going to find out the reasons for the new DHS vehicles, ammo, and microwave skin cookers. It would be fun to watch idiot liberals get zapped by ‘em though...; )


18 posted on 11/11/2012 5:10:20 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: ari-freedom
OK but what will they do when the money runs out?

historically, they start killing people.

19 posted on 11/11/2012 5:17:15 AM PST by RC one (Akin/Mourdock-2016)
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To: RC one
OK but what will they do when the money runs out?

historically, they start killing people.

The major difference between the USA and almost all of the bankrupt, rioting countries of europe is that for the present time, we are armed.

When the one gets to change the SCOTUS and they re-write the 2nd amendment, we will then see how many patriots are willing to sacrifice their comfort and lives for what we once had.

My guess is not enough to make a difference.

Some of us will be dead, but most will willingly turn in their guns and face a fate worse than death.

Being old can put a better perspective on the value of honor and death instead of a living slavery.

The last several generations have no real knowledge of the USA that I grew up in and wanted to leave for the future generations; we tried but too many want too much of other people's stuff, and too many were too pure to vote for Romney...we all will pay the terrible price for human greed and arrogance.

20 posted on 11/11/2012 5:45:35 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages, start today.)
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To: RC one

The old and the weak are already being denied medical coverage. If you know a nurse or doctor you will learn more.


21 posted on 11/11/2012 5:46:58 AM PST by Morris70
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To: ari-freedom
OK but what will they do when the money runs out?

You're thinking long term about consequences. That is capitalist roader thinking, comrade! After you get your "free" Obama-phone, the next question you should have is "where's my free data plan"! Do you see how this works, comrade. Progressive thinking does not rely on reality.

22 posted on 11/11/2012 6:46:33 AM PST by Flick Lives (We're going to be just like the old Soviet Union, but with free cell phones!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No Worries! Throughout this monstrosity that is Obamacare, this phrase appears “...as the Secretary (HHS) shall determine.” So, whenever the pressure mounts, or just because, the Secretary can create more reems & reems of rules & regulations. Oh Joy!


23 posted on 11/11/2012 12:46:21 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try.)
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