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Microsoft has failed - Their actions erase any lingering doubt
Semiaccurate ^ | Nov 14, 2012 | Charlie Demerjian

Posted on 11/14/2012 9:22:49 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: qam1

yeah. okay, I guess it does suck. /s


41 posted on 11/14/2012 10:36:29 AM PST by softwarecreator
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
At the moment he seems to be making his name with attacks on various management teams....

Sounds like a man on a mission.

And no credibility.

This is the type of guy who would have described Reagan as a failure. And there would have been millions who would support his argument, while wishing to disregard the truth along the way.
42 posted on 11/14/2012 10:40:04 AM PST by adorno
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To: RightOnline
He HATES Win8, and now I see why. It’s the most miserable, clunky, UN-user-friendly P.O.S. of an OS I’ve ever seen (and I’ve been in the computer biz for nearly 30 years). Just jaw-droppingly stupid design. Try to do just simple things, I dare you. It is openly hostile to users with a mouse....yet touch versions (i.e. Ultrabooks) really aren’t out in volume yet. Even then, as the article points out, what enterprise is going to switch to an OS that is CLEARLY touch-centric?

I haven't used Win 8 yet, but from what I understand the Windows 7 desktop is still there for people who want to use it.

43 posted on 11/14/2012 10:44:00 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I recently picked up a Chromebox to replace my home computer. It’s basically a Linux OS computer that is designed to run the Chrome browser very well, and not much else. It works for my family though. Even before we bought it, 95% of what we did on our home computer was somehow connected to the Web. The Chrome browser has a buttload of great applications and extensions that are all free, everything I’ve needed so far, I’ve found. The clincher for me was the HTML5 remote desktop extension; if I ever find myself needing any Windows-based programs, I just remote into my work network, and everything’s there.

I like that I no longer have a nagging worry in the back of my head about: have I downloaded the right virus protection? have I properly backed up all of my hard drive files? have I messed up my computer by visiting this or that website, or downloading this or that file? am I current on the latest software updates? etc. All of that is handled automatically by people who know far better than me what the hell they’re doing. As far as it being useless without an internet connection, on the rare occasions that internet is out at my house, it’s more productive for me to do almost anything else other than try to work on my computer without internet.

I think Chromeboxes and Chromebooks could be a threat to a Microsoft along the lines presented in this article. Acer recently announced a Chrome laptop for $199, and Samsung has one for $249. Both come with storage and internet access freebies that are worth more than the purchase price. It’s still a bit of work in progress, but soon there will be a 4G LTE version, and if it has a good hardware/price package, that would be pretty compelling. Corporate IT is already moving to cloud computing; Chrome computers fit perfectly into that.

So, for the time being, at home, I’m free of Microsoft and Apple, and it feels good! Of course, now Google knows everything about me . . .


44 posted on 11/14/2012 10:45:46 AM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: for-q-clinton

Thank you! I will give that a try tonight and see how I like it. FReepers are the best.


45 posted on 11/14/2012 10:47:01 AM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: qam1

You don’t need a folder up button, the address bar can be used to get back to any folder in your chain, and if you use the arrow any of its subfolders other than the chain you’re in.
The Start Menu is basically the same, except for replacing the run box with the much more powerful search box.
Recent documents can be gotten to via the application in question, hit that arrow next to Word and there’s the recent document list
Libraries are little counter intuitive, but once you get used to them having all your main places to put stuff on the navigation bar is pretty handy
I’ve never had search not find anything that was there for it to find
All my old programs work, and if you actually have one that doesn’t make an XP virtual machine
Bloatware is what happens when people want tons of new features AND aren’t willing to get rid of any old features

There’s a few changes necessary in how you think, but once you get over that hump 7 is a pretty kick ass OS. The big change is stop thinking so linearly, they’ve finally put enough layers between the OS and its DOS root that thinking like DOS inhibits you. Which is where most of your complaints, especially the folder up button, come from. DOS is folder up, 7 is one click access to all folders in your chain, two clicks to get to the subfolders near your chain.


46 posted on 11/14/2012 10:53:00 AM PST by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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To: All
And regarding AMD I just posted this :

AMD Hires JP Morgan Chase to Explore Options of Company’s Future.

47 posted on 11/14/2012 10:54:46 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Behind the Blue Wall
I’m free of Microsoft and Apple, and it feels good! Of course, now Google knows everything about me . . .

Yeah, that's kinda like going from East Germany to North Korea.
48 posted on 11/14/2012 10:58:23 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Sergio; Charles Henrickson; bcsco
Just got a new laptop with Windows 8. HATE IT!!! If Dell cannot downgrade the OS to Windows 7, I will be returing the laptop for one that does run 7 or for my money back.

Which is why I shall be hanging on to the laptop I got for FREE via coupons a couple of years ago. I was planning on getting a new laptop about this year if a new OS came out but from what I have heard about the Windows 8 nightmare, I'm hanging on to it.

49 posted on 11/14/2012 11:07:53 AM PST by PJ-Comix (Beware the Rip in the Space/Time Continuum)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I bought a ps3 3 years ago when blu ray players were expensive .
My next upgrade will be an Xbox and a $89 blu ray player that does all streaming apps.


50 posted on 11/14/2012 11:50:36 AM PST by Morris70
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To: Vendome

>My next computer will not be using Microsoft Office.
>I’ll be using “OpenOffice”.

I don’t like MS Office, never have — the new “giant logo-button” UI garners a special distaste from me.
OpenOffice is ok, but it does rather taste of copying MS office.
I’d much rather use WordPerfect than either of the other two, but I also realize that’s my own preference.


51 posted on 11/14/2012 11:52:00 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Mr. K
I write software using Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 and have used Microsoft for over 2 decades

VS is kinda a mixed-bag for me -- I introduced myself to RAD on Delphi 5, and in some ways D5 is nicer than even current Delphi and VS (the help-system springs immediately to mind). There are some things that are nicer in VS (and the new Delphi-suites, but the new Delphi-suites seem to have copied some of the new-style HTML/web-based help for one [ewww]).

The debugger is a work of art (because they use it themselves)

The debugger is pretty nice, definitely on the plus side of the equation.
The dependency-management is rather irksome though (not terrible, like [generic] C/C++/makefiles) -- I don't think I've had any non-trivial program simply work after migrating source from one computer to another with VS.

52 posted on 11/14/2012 12:04:33 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Dr. Sivana
Microsoft is willing to mostly stay out of the hardware game, ensuring that there will be a very wide range of suitable computers for its products to run on.

All your comments were good, but this one is important.

Love or hate Microsoft a good bit of hardware innovation has come about because Microsoft stayed away from hardware design.

53 posted on 11/14/2012 12:11:35 PM PST by sand88
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To: Moonman62

Actually no, it isn’t.....and that would have been a very good idea for them to do. No such luck.


54 posted on 11/14/2012 12:16:05 PM PST by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: kevkrom

Pretty much everything MS has done in the last ten years has been Digital Rights/Presentation management.

It’s not about having a versatile computer anymore. It’s about media.

And I already got a VCR. And a DVD player. And a nice stereo. I need a good, reliable OS that will keep up with hardware innovations.


55 posted on 11/14/2012 12:18:39 PM PST by djf (Political Science: Conservatives = govern-ment. Liberals = givin-me-it.)
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To: djf
I need a good, reliable OS that will keep up with hardware innovations.

I already got one.

56 posted on 11/14/2012 12:33:09 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

Good luck with that.

Sorry. Linux is a non-starter. It has zero intuitive feel to it.

It’s great if you want to run it as a server, without much interaction/administration.

But as far as something people can use... FAIL.


57 posted on 11/14/2012 12:44:03 PM PST by djf (Political Science: Conservatives = govern-ment. Liberals = givin-me-it.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Microsoft has failed

Failed? If only more companies could 'fail' this well.

Even the much-maligned Vista sold a couple of hundred million copies. Though the uptake of the new GUI will probably reduce sales from Win7 levels, I expect Win8 to match Vista's numbers. Win9 will 'fix' some shortcomings and push the 'pseudo-metro' GUI to even larger sales. Win7 will be hard to beat - it's the fastest selling OS in history.

58 posted on 11/14/2012 12:57:10 PM PST by DesertSapper (Becoming more libertarian by the day)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I almost didn’t buy a laptop I wanted because it was a newer model running Win8. But after viewing a few Win8 tutorials, I went ahead with the purchase.

A familiar desktop is one key away after start up. I don’t miss the Start menu, but there are free and low-cost utilities to bring it back if desired. Touch gestures like swipe and pinch work fine on the track pad. I don’t use Metro much, but it’s there if I want it. The thing boots from sleep in 3 seconds. All my XP software installed with no problems. So far, I don’t have any complaints. To me it seems like Win7 with Metro grafted onto the side.

One anecdote that tends to support the authors story - the salesman at Best Buy said they’ve had a number of PCs returned due to frustration with Win8. They were offering a free Win8 tutorial, I assume to help prevent these types of returns. I can see how trying to operate the GUI upon first firing up the PC, sans tutorial, could be challenging.


59 posted on 11/14/2012 1:13:13 PM PST by jrp
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To: Rum Tum Tugger
IMO, the end started about 10 years ago. It was then that it became difficult to find anyone at MS who knew what he was doing.

Check out the MSFT stock price since 2000. Little to no change in over 12 years. Then compare it to APPL

60 posted on 11/14/2012 1:18:03 PM PST by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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