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There are a few common objections to Texas secession:

1. It would mean war. Answer: This is not 1860. Even the Soviet Union broke up without war.

2. Obama will never let us go. Answer: There is one reason why he might--34 electoral votes that are always a problem for liberals. Anyway, to rephrase Davey Crocket, "To hell with Obama, I'm going to Texas."

3. The civil war settled the issue. Answer: The north won by force, but that did not settle the issue. A free people always have the right to govern themselves and have the right to separate when their government usurps their rights.

4. It'll never happen. Answer: It has happened before; it will happen again. The yearning for freedom is greater than any impediment.

5. What about the US debt? Answer: Texas would have to assume its share of the debt. But the huge economic boom we would experience would help us pay off the debt.

1 posted on 11/14/2012 1:30:11 PM PST by grumpa
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It's Time to Part Company
2 posted on 11/14/2012 1:33:45 PM PST by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance.....)
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6. What about the people on Medicare and Social Security in Texas?

7. The Demographic question?


4 posted on 11/14/2012 1:36:07 PM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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I see the re-election of Obama has literally driven people insane.

The only way any state is leaving this country is after the country no longer exists at all.


5 posted on 11/14/2012 1:39:24 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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Why have you excerpted your own garbage?


7 posted on 11/14/2012 1:40:17 PM PST by humblegunner
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The left is in control and has obtained total control in California. As I see it this secession movement is in fact a statement to the left that we on the right can no longer live with you. We have nothing in common with the left.


9 posted on 11/14/2012 1:43:37 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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I don’t see any signs that a majority of the people in Texas want to secede. And if they did, I doubt that the populations of Austin, San Antonio or Dallas would want to go with them.


11 posted on 11/14/2012 1:47:11 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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Anyway, to rephrase Davey Crocket, “To hell with Obama, I’m going to Texas.”


That’s basically one main problem Texas has today with the influx both legal and illegal.


12 posted on 11/14/2012 1:48:53 PM PST by deport
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Apparently they already have a President and other Executive officials.
14 posted on 11/14/2012 1:51:21 PM PST by Theoria (Romney is a Pyrrhic victory.)
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It would be awesome, but its not going to happen. I’d totally be in favor though.


15 posted on 11/14/2012 1:52:08 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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This is, at the moment, merely a mental exercise. In a few years, as the country slides deeper and deeper down the crapper, who knows? It may be a reality.

But one suggestion I would put forth is not copy the bill of rights verbatum. Change a few words here and there, eg first amendment clarify freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion; and the second amendment, place with emphasis the phrase INDIVIDUAL RIGHT to keep and bear arms, with language preventing the kind of crap we see today, eg "assualt weapon bans."

17 posted on 11/14/2012 1:53:17 PM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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One thing the Republic of Texas would need immediately is a bank outside of the jurisdiction of the united states and its own currency.


21 posted on 11/14/2012 2:00:45 PM PST by altsehastiin
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Democrats will leave Texas and all of the God Fearing States of America with no choice. They will demand we particiate in unmitigated evil under their new federal laws.

Anyone with even a morsel of conscience and integrity will be compelled to refuse.

They will come with the UN (with whom they treasonously colluded and empowered) to force states to comply.

State legislatures will fight to protect.

That is what Obama wants and has always wanted.

Hardline communists like Obama, Soros, Stalin, Lenin & Mao have NEVER had any objective less than world domination. They blame whatever free countries that are left for the failure of communism - like liberals blame Republicans after liberals destroy nations with debt and demented social programs.

It’s fun to fantasize about an amicable seperation where they get to live in their failing Utopia and we get to live like decent, civilzed, God fearing humans.

The problem is that “Democrats” (misnomer for Communists) are evil in nature and deed.

Therefore, they cannot live knowing you are living as a decent, noble creature as God intended.

They will come for you until they enslave you or you defeat them as Reagan did.

Many hate to hear this because these reprobates are their children or descendents.


24 posted on 11/14/2012 2:03:12 PM PST by publius321
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Anyone can run for the legislature except for a lawyer. We don't need the foxes in the henhouse.
29 posted on 11/14/2012 2:18:17 PM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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5. What about the US debt? Answer: Texas would have to assume its share of the debt. But the huge economic boom we would experience would help us pay off the debt.

We should only assume the debts if we also acquire all the feds physical assets in Texas. We would be buying these assets by taking our share of the debts. Otherwise, no reason to take on their debts.

30 posted on 11/14/2012 2:18:55 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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Secession is pretty much a non-starter unless a lot of States manage at the same time and have adjacent borders. Else there will be a siege of sorts to keep them from trading among each other for survival necessities. Unless each State has everything it needs within its borders, it’s toast. The Dollar will become illegal for them to use and their own scrip will be worthless except within the borders.


34 posted on 11/14/2012 2:28:33 PM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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If Texas or any state DOES secede, I will move there.


36 posted on 11/14/2012 2:29:41 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (If you're for sticking scissors in a baby girl's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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I would love to see Texas create the ‘Texas Dollar’, back by GOLD.


38 posted on 11/14/2012 2:35:05 PM PST by ExCTCitizen (More Republicans stayed home then the margin of victory of O's Win...)
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I live in Texas and I didn’t sign up for Socialism! You other critcs can stay for the mass graves that socialism/communism always leads to. As for me and my family, I wan’t the F*ck out!


42 posted on 11/14/2012 2:56:56 PM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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this petition will go nowhere, but it finally, maybe starts the conversation. most colonists in 1770 would have never even considered secession in 1776 a possibility. And, my understanding is that many colonists stayed loyal to Britian even during the war.

In recent times, many countries have peacefully broken up. I hope Texas can do so within 10 years, before it is too late.


43 posted on 11/14/2012 3:00:02 PM PST by rigelkentaurus
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Texas would lose a few million rif-raf and liberals and parasites, but how would they handle the many millions of America’s finest families and people swarming in?

I guess we would just have to see how the closest modern version of the original founding types of America, worked it out.


46 posted on 11/14/2012 3:17:40 PM PST by ansel12 (Todd Akin was NOT the tea party candidate, Sarah Steelman was, Brunner had tea party support also.)
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