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Reaganite Republican ^ | 16 November 2012 | Reaganite Republican

Posted on 11/16/2012 12:37:32 PM PST by Reaganite Republican


Vanessa Dobos is a gunner on board a USAF AC-130 gunship. 

The blue-eyed blonde has seen action in Iraq and Afganistan, and enjoys long walks on the beach, men who aren't afraid to cry, and puppies.

Vanessa's dislikes include feed-tray stoppages, tracer flareout of her NVGs and premature fixed-wing strikes scattering her 
high-value targets...

The 19 year old former Ohio high school cheerleader is in-fact the Air Force's first female aerial gunner ever:

Raised in the small town of Valley View, Ohio, her interstest in the military was sparked by her father. Described by Dobos as 'a history buff', her dad talked a lot about America's past heroes while they often watched classic war movies...

'He instilled in me so much respect for our country's past heroes' she said.


She 'loves her job', but that doesn't mean it's been easy: besides having to win-over doubters re. her ability to handle the heavy machine gun, Airman 1C Dobos luckily survived a nasty chopper crash in Afghanistan that resulted in 5-7 rolls down a hillside and one airman dead/others severely injured...
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Military.com   Snopes   h/t Kirby



TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: air; banglist; force; militarywomen; usaf; women
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To: SC_Pete

I don’t have anything against this woman in particular, if I were in her shoes, I expect I would do the same as her.

I simply think women in combat is a bad, Bad, BAD idea in general. And I have very specific reasons why I think so apart from the cultural ones.

But the military is now a social experiment, and that is what we are going to do.

It is going to be a damned bloody disaster when we have our first Edson’s Ridge, Peleliu or Chosin Reservoir. But until then, we are going to hear from the media, the government and even (or especially) the military itself how wrong the naysayers were, and that the military forces are so much more efficient and good with homosexuals and women completely integrated and open in their activities.

Until then, our military will be a “Force for Good”, and that will be jolly good until the SHTF.

And the ones who advocated for this the most will be the ones who scream the loudest and point the most fingers.


21 posted on 11/16/2012 1:43:38 PM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: SC_Pete

WTF?
The switch from revolvers in the 1970s (the 1980s, really) had NOTHING to do with women, and everything to do with the new generation of semi-autos (SW, Sig, Beretta and Glock) which provided officers with more firepower. The .38special really doesn’t have that much over the 9mm so it wasn’t much of a choice or change, and there were so few women officers back then it couldn’t possibly have an impact.

I will agree on the standards. In 16 years of service with The Army, I’ve seen standards changed, waived and even outright IGNORED to accomodate females.


22 posted on 11/16/2012 1:48:03 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: SC_Pete

I NEVER had a march where the females didn’t ditch their gear less than an hour in and pick it up from other (male) soldiers at the finish line.


23 posted on 11/16/2012 1:50:15 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: rlmorel

My main point is that this requires LOWERING STANDARDS. Can you imagine affirmative action for heavy weight boxers? Or NBA centers? Or NFL linemen?

Yet in matters of life and death we lowered the standards and eliminated police officers and firemen who would have performed at a much higher level—just so some leftists can pursue a sick fantasy.


24 posted on 11/16/2012 1:55:12 PM PST by SC_Pete
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To: SC_Pete

Yeah you’re right. Women are different from men.
“We women have forgotten more about cruelty than you could ever remember,” she spits, and adds that she wants the traitors “alive when you cut out their hearts and their bowels.”
Helen Mirren in the movie `Queen Elizabeth’

My aunt built airplanes in WWII and then flew them. Her mother scratched out a living with her husband on Oklahoma land that even the Indians didn’t want.
My Mother killed rattlesnakes with a garden hoe and worked alongside her two brothers chopping cotton. I wouldn’t have wanted to tangle with two of them and I made the mistake of tangling with one of them, once.

I get the impression from the article that Vanessa knows her job and does it as well as anyone could.
Not every man can be in special forces either so yeah, you’re right there too.


25 posted on 11/16/2012 1:56:23 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: SJSAMPLE

I was there. They couldn’t shoot them.


26 posted on 11/16/2012 2:04:00 PM PST by SC_Pete
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To: tumblindice

Yes many women are tough. My wife is a 5th degree black belt.

Women and men are not the same, each have strengths. Mens strengths generally make them better for combat and many military duties.

The mixed gender environment also raises a lot of problems in the military environment.


27 posted on 11/16/2012 2:05:18 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: tumblindice

Was she the BEST for the job? Probably not.

My wife is the daughter of a soldier in Patton’s Army: Silver Star, Bronze Star, 3 Purple Hearts. She is a chip off the old block, without a doubt the strongest individual I have ever known. She was a great Army nurse in Vietnam. She was in the right spot.


28 posted on 11/16/2012 2:11:10 PM PST by SC_Pete
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To: SC_Pete

I do understand the point you make, and agree. Unfortunately, many people will read our postings and presume we have something against women in the workforce in general.

And nothing could be further from the truth.


29 posted on 11/16/2012 2:14:23 PM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: Reaganite Republican

Beautiful. A backbone of titanium and a jaw line like a Grand Champion Quarter Horse mare. She’s probably sent a lot of ragheads to meet their 72 virgins. It’s time women like this got the recognition they deserve......instead of these sluts like Broadwell and the Kelley sisters.


30 posted on 11/16/2012 2:17:15 PM PST by Tucker39
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To: rlmorel

I am an equal opportunity advocate. I just don’t support UNEQUAL opportunity.


31 posted on 11/16/2012 2:18:58 PM PST by SC_Pete
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To: SJSAMPLE

And they women in infantry are injuring their hips, some with permanent disabilities.


32 posted on 11/16/2012 2:21:37 PM PST by SC_Pete
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To: O6ret
Why, might i ask, should this question even come up?

Why indeed, what makes her a celebrity? Is she such a super warrior, war hero that her more than 9 year old photograph, is worthy of all this attention.

What is it that she used to do that is special?

33 posted on 11/16/2012 2:25:58 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischer’s successful run in Nebraska)
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To: Reaganite Republican

“Girls just wanna have fun....”


34 posted on 11/16/2012 2:39:18 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: Reaganite Republican

dang skippy


35 posted on 11/16/2012 2:43:44 PM PST by VRW Conspirator (We were the tea party before there was a tea party. - Jim Robinson)
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To: Reaganite Republican

Nice Pic.... (I love females with guns!!)


36 posted on 11/16/2012 2:46:39 PM PST by ExCTCitizen (More Republicans stayed home then the margin of victory of O's Win...)
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To: Reaganite Republican

37 posted on 11/16/2012 3:50:47 PM PST by GreenLanternCorps ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Jimmy Carter")
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To: cynwoody

Something tells me her kiddie will never run into the classic Mother-BB gun block and you’ll shoot yer eye out Ralphie B/S. Hell, probably already has a couple of AR’s, 1911’s and reloads for both of ‘em!


38 posted on 11/16/2012 3:59:33 PM PST by bobby.223 (Retired high up in the mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a GREAT life!)
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To: ExCTCitizen

Ask, and ye shall receive!

39 posted on 11/16/2012 6:27:22 PM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: SC_Pete

All well and good as far as Seals and NBA players are concerned.

But your post implied that she was selected over others more qualified. How do you know this? From her blue eyes?


40 posted on 11/16/2012 8:38:13 PM PST by O6ret
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