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*The REAL Miss America*
Reaganite Republican ^ | 16 November 2012 | Reaganite Republican

Posted on 11/16/2012 12:37:32 PM PST by Reaganite Republican


Vanessa Dobos is a gunner on board a USAF AC-130 gunship. 

The blue-eyed blonde has seen action in Iraq and Afganistan, and enjoys long walks on the beach, men who aren't afraid to cry, and puppies.

Vanessa's dislikes include feed-tray stoppages, tracer flareout of her NVGs and premature fixed-wing strikes scattering her 
high-value targets...

The 19 year old former Ohio high school cheerleader is in-fact the Air Force's first female aerial gunner ever:

Raised in the small town of Valley View, Ohio, her interstest in the military was sparked by her father. Described by Dobos as 'a history buff', her dad talked a lot about America's past heroes while they often watched classic war movies...

'He instilled in me so much respect for our country's past heroes' she said.


She 'loves her job', but that doesn't mean it's been easy: besides having to win-over doubters re. her ability to handle the heavy machine gun, Airman 1C Dobos luckily survived a nasty chopper crash in Afghanistan that resulted in 5-7 rolls down a hillside and one airman dead/others severely injured...
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Military.com   Snopes   h/t Kirby



TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: air; banglist; force; militarywomen; usaf; women
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To: ansel12

Do her blue eyes disqualify her?
Who cares how old the photo is?
Do only super warriors qualify for this position?
Is there evidence that she’s not qualified?


41 posted on 11/16/2012 8:41:00 PM PST by O6ret
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To: O6ret

Other than her being female, what do you think makes this photo special, so special that it is trotted out periodically to make a point, what point do you think it makes?


42 posted on 11/16/2012 10:55:45 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischer’s successful run in Nebraska)
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To: ansel12

You’re the one who seems to think it makes a point. What is it?


43 posted on 11/16/2012 11:43:08 PM PST by O6ret
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To: O6ret

What indeed, what makes her a celebrity? Is she such a super warrior, war hero that her more than 9 year old photograph, is worthy of all this attention.

What is it that she used to do that is special to her, unique to her, that is constantly resurrected, what point is being resurrected?

Other than her being female, what do you think makes this photo special, so special that it is trotted out periodically to make a point, what point do you think it makes?

Aren’t you retired military, you don’t have any input, no knowledge of such things?


44 posted on 11/16/2012 11:55:30 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischer’s successful run in Nebraska)
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To: O6ret

The BELL CURVE.


45 posted on 11/17/2012 4:20:01 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: SC_Pete

My ten year-old daughter was shooting .38special, .357 magnum and light 10mm loads last weekend. The .38 special doesn’t have much more recoil than the 9mm. I stand by my statement about the adoption of the 9mm, it had everything to do with magazine capacity/firepower.


46 posted on 11/17/2012 6:32:29 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: SC_Pete

Exactly.
Women have skills and (I dare say it) INHERENT traits that suit them far better to some jobs. I accept that and known dozens of Army nurses through my career. EVERY ONE of them earned her place there and didn’t need any waivers or lowered standards to do their jobs.

Congratulations on marrying a fine woman.


47 posted on 11/17/2012 6:35:27 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: SC_Pete

Which infantry?
None in the US Armed Forces.
Israel tried it and it didn’t work out.
The Russians brag about their WWII females, but none of them served as actual infantry, which requires much more than shooting a rifle.


48 posted on 11/17/2012 6:37:12 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: SJSAMPLE

In training. They interviewed a woman captain who had destroyed her pelvis (angle of the femur)from marching with gear.

The whole issue regarding women on the frontlines is that some feminists think it’s unfair that so many men are generals. It’s an asset to have combat experience, hence the push to put women on the frontlines.


49 posted on 11/17/2012 8:21:54 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: SC_Pete

Agreed.
When I went to Airborne School in 1986, they’d just integrated the runs and everybody was basically crawling along just to keep the women in formation. The women were experiencing high incidents of stress fractures along the tibia (?), so any faster runs were prohibited for EVERYBODY.

I actually came out of the three week school in WORSE shape. It was like a vacation. It didn’t help that I turned 21 the night before my first jump ;)


50 posted on 11/17/2012 3:19:13 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: SJSAMPLE

The effectiveness of the fighting unit is a matter of life and death— and here we are playing dangerous political games. The Israelis found that having women on the front lines was a disaster for another reason: men are biologically wired to protect women. When the women got wounded, it caused even more casualties.


51 posted on 11/17/2012 4:36:39 PM PST by SC_Pete
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To: SC_Pete

It’s definitely a mistake. When they show these women, they’re invariably behind a mounted machinegun or, in this case, minigun.

They don’t show them with 100lb rucksacks, humping mortar plates or rounds, etc. Looks great for the cameras, but the reality is much, much different.


52 posted on 11/19/2012 5:08:32 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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