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To: chrisnj

Ah, the conspiracists have finally figured out that we aren’t idiots, and that they need to explain why it is that politicians aren’t fighting voter fraud.

And I guess they figure 30 years is long enough ago that nobody will be able to check them. Of course, I imagine a good number of the conspiracists weren’t born 30 years ago.

Of course, the like a good conspiracy, it has vague generalities to keep from getting tripped up in the pesky reality of details. So “the GOP” made a deal with “the Democrats” “30 years ago” (That is 1982, 2 years into the great President Ronald Reagan’s 8 year presidential term).

I’m sure the conspiracists will explain how “the GOP” did this behind Reagan’s back, so as not to smear him with this charge.

Left unexplained is how a party who can’t keep their own members from jumping ship, endorsing democrats, keeping on message for more than 5 minutes, or basically doing anything they want, somehow HAS been able to keep an entire generation of politicians both docile and quiet.

And I wonder if anybody pushing this theory has ever been involved in an actual political campaign, or actually KNOWS anybody who has actually run for office.

I doubt it. Because if they did, they would know how absurd this argument is. People who run for public office are driven to win. They spend thousands of hours, put their lives on hold. They give up their jobs. They put their lives in public for ridicule. They spend vast sums of their own money, and they hit up all their friends, family, and aquaintances for more money. They go to hundreds of meetings talking people into voting for them, into supporting them, into primary or caucus victories, just to get to the general election.

And according to the conspiracists, when they lose by a few hundred votes, and are confronted with obvious fraud that proves they should have won, these people, having invested their blood, sweat, and tears, their lives, their livelyhood, their very being into trying to win, just lay down and walk away.

That, my friend, is a fantasy you couldn’t pay people to believe. They pretend Allen West is special — but he is the norm. People don’t give up because they feel obligated to support some clandestine 30-year-old agreement that is both secret, but also dictated to every single one of thousands of politicians who run under the GOP banner every 4 years. They give up because, when they actually look at the results, they realize they lost.

And no, I didn’t read the heavily excerpted BLOG ENTRY. If you want someone to read something, post it here.


17 posted on 11/16/2012 9:18:57 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

“it has vague generalities to keep from getting tripped up in the pesky reality of details.”

To be fair the article cites a specific court case and the binding consent decree by which it was supposedly settled. It even showed a picture of the judge who shot down revision of the agreement. So it’s not as if he’s alleging a private handshake over cigars and brandy in some gentleman’s club.


24 posted on 11/16/2012 9:34:28 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: CharlesWayneCT

You obviously didn’t read the article, and as such should be informed about whether or not the parties would walk away from close tallied with hard evidence of fraud. It’s about challenging voters beforehand, not challengning results after the polls close.


25 posted on 11/16/2012 9:37:01 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Ah, the conspiracists have finally figured out that we aren’t idiots, and that they need to explain why it is that politicians aren’t fighting voter fraud.

And I guess they figure 30 years is long enough ago that nobody will be able to check them. Of course, I imagine a good number of the conspiracists weren’t born 30 years ago.

Of course, the like a good conspiracy, it has vague generalities to keep from getting tripped up in the pesky reality of details. So “the GOP” made a deal with “the Democrats” “30 years ago” (That is 1982, 2 years into the great President Ronald Reagan’s 8 year presidential term).

You apparently don't understand federal judges, or "consent decrees".

When I read the whole article, my antenna went up, because I have been following vote fraud AND federal judges for quite a few years.

You need to read it again, and figure out what a malevolent partisan looney tune federal judge can do with a "consent decree".

The IBM Corporation was TORTURED for nearly 40 years by a nutcase federal judge who initially ruled on punch card technology issues in 1952, but was tormenting them over advanced computing issues in 1990. We got another live one with this Debevoise guy, who implemented the consent decree in 1982, and thirty freaking years later, he comes back annually to renew the consent decree.

He's 88 years old, BTW - a Democrat gift from Peanut Boy Carter that keeps on giving.

66 posted on 11/17/2012 9:32:44 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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